Fan ticket question...

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  • StardogChamp79
    StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,190
    So I wonder if someone is checking if you get selected for both options how that goes down. They must have some algorithm. 
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  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 961
    steven87 said:
    Okay folks I just got a response from 10c regarding this issue:

     “Sorry for the confusion. If you are looking to maximize your chances of getting in the building, we strongly encourage you to select both options. If you don't get GA, you will then be entered for reserved. Your odds do not decrease by selecting both. Hope this helps!”

    So it sounds like if you want to maximize your chances of getting into the building, you should select both “GA or Reserved” also also “Reserved.”
    I think its still not clear if they mean that choosing "GA or Reserved" = selecting both options,
    OR if choosing
    "GA or Reserved" PLUS "Reserved" = selecting both options.

    Since both options are already contained in "GA or Reserved", its hard to precisely determine which "both" they are indicating.
  • utpaldesai
    utpaldesai Posts: 28
    edited April 2023
    PJ fans are getting old, some fans (or their partners) may not like the idea of GA.

    Post edited by utpaldesai on
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 961
    edited April 2023
    Not to put the cart before the horse, but if someone with a Very low number Only wants GA, and gets a Very good reserve instead, PM me 😉. Maybe we can coordinate on f2f.

    Sorry to be shamefully premature 🥴 🙄 !
    But I'm sure there will be many others posting the same before long.

    *I would like GA, but realize how limited that is, and would be thrilled with really good reserved as well.
    Post edited by OfThePearl on
  • cmcard
    cmcard Posts: 92
    Took me forever to get card to go through. Had to change to an older address and worked.  I didn’t get the “1 dollar hold”. Anyone else not get one? 
  • Doug87
    Doug87 Posts: 442
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    gotthebottle said:
    They clearly wrote...if you want best chance to get tickets select all options. 
    It's your choice
    The only person who shouldn't be selecting all options, is the person who doesnt want GA. Correct?
    For everyone else its a no-brainer, just select all options, say a prayer, have an adult beverage, and hope you win. 
    Correct? 

    Yes.  This is correct.
  • Doug87
    Doug87 Posts: 442
    PJNB said:
    It is a pretty broken system if clicking GA/reserved as well as just reserved gets you better chances to get in for reserved.
    Doesn’t give you better chance on Reserved.

    it’s the fact that you’re trying for GA first then entered for Reserved if you don’t win.

    there’s no advantage for Reserved vs those wgo only entered for Reserved, just more than one shot on goal for two types of tickets (GA and Reserved).
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Doug87 said:
    PJNB said:
    It is a pretty broken system if clicking GA/reserved as well as just reserved gets you better chances to get in for reserved.
    Doesn’t give you better chance on Reserved.

    it’s the fact that you’re trying for GA first then entered for Reserved if you don’t win.

    there’s no advantage for Reserved vs those wgo only entered for Reserved, just more than one shot on goal for two types of tickets (GA and Reserved).
    I agree with you but that’s not how they are wording it when people are inquiring. 
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,277
    Should've just stayed with the GA  only option?
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 961
    edited April 2023
    PJNB said:
    Doug87 said:
    PJNB said:
    It is a pretty broken system if clicking GA/reserved as well as just reserved gets you better chances to get in for reserved.
    Doesn’t give you better chance on Reserved.

    it’s the fact that you’re trying for GA first then entered for Reserved if you don’t win.

    there’s no advantage for Reserved vs those wgo only entered for Reserved, just more than one shot on goal for two types of tickets (GA and Reserved).
    I agree with you but that’s not how they are wording it when people are inquiring. 
    PJNB is right. 
    That is logically how it should be, but the wording of the answers given when several have asked them for clarification, could be seen as contradicting that.

    They consistently say to select both "options" to maximize your chances.
    But option #1 already contains both options.

    They need to specifically say that you need to select "GA and Reserved" AND "Reserved" to maximize your chances, OR "GA and Reserved" ALONE already maximizes your chances.

    Language is a tricky thing. We all just want to get it right.
    I don't think they realize they are being imprecise, because they already know the correct answer.

    Sorry this sounds so tedious, when its s'posed to be just fun 😆 !
    Post edited by OfThePearl on
  • rival9500
    rival9500 Posts: 594
    cutz said:
    Should've just stayed with the GA  only option?
    Yes.  If someone only wants GA and not reserved, then it should be their choice to only go for GA.  If they don’t want reserved then why make them buy reserved? 
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,807
    rival9500 said:
    cutz said:
    Should've just stayed with the GA  only option?
    Yes.  If someone only wants GA and not reserved, then it should be their choice to only go for GA.  If they don’t want reserved then why make them buy reserved? 
    Because the GA only lowered chances of getting a ticket at all! We are very lucky that they do this for us at all, actually HELPING fan club members get into a high demand show. Verified fan onsales are bullshit and long time fans complain they couldn't even get a ticket, let alone at a decent price!!  Springsteen, Swift, etc fans bitched and screamed... so let's all say b THANK YOU 10C AND PJ for doing your best to help fan club members get a spot in the arena at a decent price WHEREVER IT IS!!
  • tylermoore
    tylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 1,113
    With this new GA/Reserved tactic, are a lot of people actually going to get 3-4 shows if they enter for them? I feel like no way, with how small the tour is. Or do they have control of that many seats now
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,807
    edited April 2023

  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,807
    We are grateful for this...
  • tim131
    tim131 Austin Posts: 44
    Do we have an idea about the size of the pit? 300 people? 3000? Venue dependant?

    Springsteen was very small like 300 to 500. It appears PJs are a bit bigger than his, but venue seating maps can be deceiving!
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,900
    edited April 2023
    Purely guessing but thinking GA/Res option is a deterrent from people trying to game the system for GA tickets.
    • Deters a "GA or nothing" strategy, attempting to use more than one account (spouse, family, friend, etc) will be on the hook for reserved seats.
    • While you can resell unwanted reserved seats on F2F, you won't see that money back until after the show. Betting on more shows than you plan to attend means hundreds of $ you won't have for a while. This could be an even bigger pain for international fans knowing F2F payments have more delays. 
    • Streamlines the fan prioritization process, as 10c probably sees most people who request GA tend to always prioritize it over reserved. Ordering 4 show preferences is easier than 8 show/seat options.
    Seeing the ticketing team is recommending selecting all options, I'm guessing the logic for the lottery per show might go in this order:
    • Round 1: Anyone with GA/Res selected for GA seats
    • Round 2: Anyone with Reserved selected get reserved tickets
    • Round 3: Any remaining reserved seats go to GA/Res that didn't get GA, and also didn't select Reserved
    Post edited by tschav on
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    tschav said:
    Purely guessing but thinking GA/Res option is a deterrent from people trying to game the system for GA tickets.
    • Deters a "GA or nothing" strategy, attempting to use more than one account (spouse, family, friend, etc) will be on the hook for reserved seats.
    • While you can resell unwanted reserved seats on F2F, you won't see that money back until after the show. Betting on more shows than you plan to attend means hundreds of $ you won't have for a while. This could be an even bigger pain for international fans knowing F2F payments have more delays. 
    • Streamlines the fan prioritization process, as 10c probably sees most people who request GA tend to always prioritize it over reserved. Ordering 4 show preferences is easier than 8 show/seat options.
    Seeing the ticketing team is recommending selecting all options, I'm guessing the logic for the lottery per show might go in this order:
    • Round 1: Anyone with GA/Res selected for GA seats
    • Round 2: Anyone with Reserved selected get reserved tickets
    • Round 3: Any remaining reserved seats go to GA/Res that didn't get GA, and also didn't select Reserved
    Some good thoughts but round 3 is not a thing. 
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 961
    edited April 2023
    tschav said:
    Purely guessing but thinking GA/Res option is a deterrent from people trying to game the system for GA tickets.
    • Deters a "GA or nothing" strategy, attempting to use more than one account (spouse, family, friend, etc) will be on the hook for reserved seats.
    • While you can resell unwanted reserved seats on F2F, you won't see that money back until after the show. Betting on more shows than you plan to attend means hundreds of $ you won't have for a while. This could be an even bigger pain for international fans knowing F2F payments have more delays. 
    • Streamlines the fan prioritization process, as 10c probably sees most people who request GA tend to always prioritize it over reserved. Ordering 4 show preferences is easier than 8 show/seat options.
    Seeing the ticketing team is recommending selecting all options, I'm guessing the logic for the lottery per show might go in this order:
    • Round 1: Anyone with GA/Res selected for GA seats
    • Round 2: Anyone with Reserved selected get reserved tickets
    • Round 3: Any remaining reserved seats go to GA/Res that didn't get GA, and also didn't select Reserved
    A waay back post reported that 10c said All reserved go into one pot. Sounds like after GA gets picked all reserved have equal chance, (of course by the priority you placed your shows).

    It also means that you could also only possibly get GA from your 1st priority. They will all be given out before Any reserved, therefor zero would be available for Anyone's 2nd choice. This is really going to mix up the pit, I would guess. Idk if this was intentional or just a by product of the new "GA or Reserved" choice.

    *of course its always been harder to get GA, but I think this makes it harder to get multiple GAs. Just my opinion.
    Post edited by OfThePearl on
  • StardogChamp79
    StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,190
    Wondering if they would ever go the Metallica route and stream shows 🤔
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