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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,208
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 321
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,208
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
    Fuck, just leave it. One is informal, maybe this is considered formal to you. 
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 321
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
    Fuck, just leave it. One is informal, maybe this is considered formal to you. 
    Move the goal post all you want.  You actually called me educated, when you tried to be condescending. 
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,208
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
    Fuck, just leave it. One is informal, maybe this is considered formal to you. 
    Move the goal post all you want.  You actually called me educated, when you tried to be condescending. 
    Goal posts aren’t moved, I never said you were wrong, I said they were both correct. You doubled down. When did I call you educated? 
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 321
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
    Fuck, just leave it. One is informal, maybe this is considered formal to you. 
    Move the goal post all you want.  You actually called me educated, when you tried to be condescending. 
    Goal posts aren’t moved, I never said you were wrong, I said they were both correct. You doubled down. When did I call you educated? 
    When you butchered the English language. 
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,208
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
    Fuck, just leave it. One is informal, maybe this is considered formal to you. 
    Move the goal post all you want.  You actually called me educated, when you tried to be condescending. 
    Goal posts aren’t moved, I never said you were wrong, I said they were both correct. You doubled down. When did I call you educated? 
    When you butchered the English language. 
    Butchered wouldn’t be accurate in this case. That will be what happens to the economy in a few months. 
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 321
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
    Fuck, just leave it. One is informal, maybe this is considered formal to you. 
    Move the goal post all you want.  You actually called me educated, when you tried to be condescending. 
    Goal posts aren’t moved, I never said you were wrong, I said they were both correct. You doubled down. When did I call you educated? 
    When you butchered the English language. 
    Butchered wouldn’t be accurate in this case. That will be what happens to the economy in a few months. 
    Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.  Let's all hope not.  Is that what you would like to see happen?  You hope the American economy crumbles because you don't like the election results?
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,208
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
    Fuck, just leave it. One is informal, maybe this is considered formal to you. 
    Move the goal post all you want.  You actually called me educated, when you tried to be condescending. 
    Goal posts aren’t moved, I never said you were wrong, I said they were both correct. You doubled down. When did I call you educated? 
    When you butchered the English language. 
    Butchered wouldn’t be accurate in this case. That will be what happens to the economy in a few months. 
    Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.  Let's all hope not.  Is that what you would like to see happen?  You hope the American economy crumbles because you don't like the election results?
    Of course not, let’s see how things go. 
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 321
    edited November 24
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    battle1 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Correcting grammar on a message board to try and look educated is so pathetic. 
    "try to look educated..." 


    Both are right but good try. 
    Wrong.  
    Takes one second to find the answer. 


    “You should feel free to use try and where it seems appropriate, but be aware that some people will try and tell you you're wrong to do so—in which case, you can point them here.”

    Like I said, the online grammar police are pathetic. 
    They mean 2 different things, genius.  So because google said so, you are right?  
    Fuck, just leave it. One is informal, maybe this is considered formal to you. 
    Move the goal post all you want.  You actually called me educated, when you tried to be condescending. 
    Goal posts aren’t moved, I never said you were wrong, I said they were both correct. You doubled down. When did I call you educated? 
    When you butchered the English language. 
    Butchered wouldn’t be accurate in this case. That will be what happens to the economy in a few months. 
    Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.  Let's all hope not.  Is that what you would like to see happen?  You hope the American economy crumbles because you don't like the election results?
    Of course not, let’s see how things go. 
    That's all we can do.  Acting out like the AMT Army certainly isn't going to help matters. 
    Post edited by battle1 on
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,761
    teskeinc said:
    Yeah sure don’t see how his policies help middle class families 
    Safe to assume everyone survived the 20-50% inflation increases on everything over the last 4 years. But that was a small price trying to save democracy I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    But you conveniently ignore the trump tax cut data presented, and the huge increase of the top 1% wealth gains since the Reagan1980s. And you continually ignore the facts presented that Trump played a key role in the demise of the supply chains during covid leading to the initial increase in prices. Gotta ignore alot of facts to enjoy maga land.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,375
    2023
    It’s the weekly mind erase for the MAGA crowd. Facts? What facts? Past? What past?

    Still haven’t heard one convincing argument or defense of POOTWH’s policies or administration appointments. Gee, why are MAGAs and “indies” so afraid to put their markers down?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,952
    2025
    Again this also needs to be pointed to the fools who voted for him one in particular who keeps stating that this is all hogwash 
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-project-2025-administration-nominees-843f5ff20131ccba5f056e7ccc5baf23After Trump's Project 2025 denials, he is tapping its authors and influencers for key roles
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,360
    teskeinc said:
    Yeah sure don’t see how his policies help middle class families 
    Safe to assume everyone survived the 20-50% inflation increases on everything over the last 4 years. But that was a small price trying to save democracy I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    But you conveniently ignore the trump tax cut data presented, and the huge increase of the top 1% wealth gains since the Reagan1980s. And you continually ignore the facts presented that Trump played a key role in the demise of the supply chains during covid leading to the initial increase in prices. Gotta ignore alot of facts to enjoy maga land.

    willfull ignorance is bliss they say.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    Yeah sure don’t see how his policies help middle class families 
    Safe to assume everyone survived the 20-50% inflation increases on everything over the last 4 years. But that was a small price trying to save democracy I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    But you conveniently ignore the trump tax cut data presented, and the huge increase of the top 1% wealth gains since the Reagan1980s. And you continually ignore the facts presented that Trump played a key role in the demise of the supply chains during covid leading to the initial increase in prices. Gotta ignore alot of facts to enjoy maga land.
    You ignored all the pro-Trump polls pre-election because you didn’t like what they showed. Facts are you don’t know what is going to happen. If you believe everyone here you would be admitted to a mental institution. These are sensationalists who still think they are smarter than everyone else and can’t figure out why they lost. Continue to regurgitate the same talking points that CNN and MSDNC shoved down their throats for the last several months. Now they want the country to fail so they can say “I told you so.” And even if Trump is successful and does what the majority wants, they will never give any credit, just complain about Jan 6 for 4 more years.

    These people here make you wish Project 2025 was actually true.


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,375
    edited November 25
    2023
    Yup, nothing here to be concerned about. Nada, zilch, Coke Zero. Nothing to see nor get mad about or even heat up. Just normal stuff.

    https://apple.news/AsyScy4nHSpWUTU4wK_AQEg

    For those ascared of apple links, as a public service.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/23/trump-team-barred-from-agencies-amid-legal-standoff-00191399
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,952
    edited November 25
    2025
    Ok after reading this it’s very clear that their vote could be had if you give them something to look forward too 
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-black-women-democrats-harris-base-votecast-0c646e888c999b03d1798e1aa1331937Feeling betrayed by increased minority support for Trump, Black women say they’re stepping back
    Post edited by josevolution on
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,952
    2025
    Ok after reading this it’s very clear that their vote could be had if you give them something to look forward too 
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-black-women-democrats-harris-base-votecast-0c646e888c999b03d1798e1aa1331937Feeling betrayed by increased minority support for Trump, Black women say they’re stepping back
    Or we could look at it like they will not be involved in voting process which would favor republicans! 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    2023
    teskeinc said:
    Still tough to beat that $7 box at TBell but McD's knows it has to fight for those dollars. The days of a hot economy where people will pay $10 for a shitburger lunch are over. Competition forces its hand yet again.

    Look at what you can get at Applebee's for $10...they are going after Chik-fil-A
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    2023


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,375
    2023


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    There’s no truth to the rumour that I hosted any of the attendees.
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 321


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    2023
    battle1 said:


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

    As I call her? That's her fucking name.

    And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

    Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,360
    battle1 said:


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

    As I call her? That's her fucking name.

    And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

    Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.

    battle1 said:


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

    As I call her? That's her fucking name.

    And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

    Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.

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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 321
    battle1 said:


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

    As I call her? That's her fucking name.

    And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

    Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.
    Well the last name basis indicates maybe a little too close to the circus for my taste.

    Yes, you focused on "Ingraham", and missed the point.  Democracy works just fine.  

    I wasn't saying you created propaganda.  You missed that point too.  

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
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    Ibattle1 said:
    battle1 said:


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

    As I call her? That's her fucking name.

    And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

    Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.
    Well the last name basis indicates maybe a little too close to the circus for my taste.

    Yes, you focused on "Ingraham", and missed the point.  Democracy works just fine.  

    I wasn't saying you created propaganda.  You missed that point too.  

    These talking heads have influence. I'm not sure what her specific influence is as vs. all the others, but if she's a right-wing pundit I've heard of it's more than zero.

    I also suspect this is somewhat reflective of the way not only "regular" MAGA people think but the executive branch if not the legislative branch. "Undermining President Trump." If you don't think there's  significant loyalty to Trump over America (it's why they say "America First" so often), I don't know what to tell you. They all think people like Mitt Romney are traitors. And as stupid as it was for Harris to use Liz Freaking Cheney to try to win votes (LOL) it was frightening that a conservative stalwart got primaried simply for not showing 100% MAGA/Trump loyalty.

    As for the bold, I hope you're right at least to the extent it worked well in the 45th term. I would love to be wrong (and I'm a known pessimist but many not-so-pessimistic people are nervous too). But I think it's in grave danger. Under 47 we're going to have the most party-loyal federal court system in US history. His cabinet is now 100% Trump devotees (correcting the "mistake" he made last time). He's got a co-president who's apparently going to throw money at primaries of anyone showing disloyalty. I want to be wrong but there's reason to be nervous. Oh, and a VP who was on the stolen election bandwagon; I wonder if he'd ever certifiy a presidential election for a Democrat. The punditization of the cabinet is at best shaping up for ineffectiveness if not intentionally bringing it down from the inside.

    This doesn't mean I'm predicting concentration camps. It's not going to look just like other terrible regimes. But there's a real chance the Republic is on the ropes right now. And hearing famous pundits demand for loyalty to one person is at best concerning.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
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    2023
    I remember arguing with some of my old Ohio high school friends about trump in 2016. I kept saying "you voted for McCain and Romney right? Neither of those guys support trump...does that bother you?" and no, it didn't bother them a bit.

    It's a fucking cult.
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    2023
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-farm-groups-want-trump-spare-their-workers-deportation-2024-11-25/

    'WE NEED THE CERTAINTY'
    Farmers have a legal option for hiring labor with the H-2A visa program, which allows employers to bring in an unlimited number of seasonal workers if they can show there are not enough U.S. workers willing, qualified and available to do the job.
    The program has grown over time, with 378,000 H-2A positions certified by the Labor Department in 2023, three times more than in 2014, according to agency data.
    But that figure is only about 20% of the nation's farm workers, according to the USDA. Many farmers say they cannot afford the visa's wage and housing requirements. Others have year-round labor needs that rule out the seasonal visas.
    Farmers and workers would benefit from expanded legal pathways for agricultural laborers, said John Walt Boatright, director of government affairs at the American Farm Bureau Federation, a farmer lobby group.
    "We need the certainty, reliability and affordability of a workforce program and programs that are going to allow us to continue to deliver food from the farm to the table,” said John Hollay, director of government relations at the International Fresh Produce Association, which represents produce farmers.
    For decades, farm and worker groups have attempted to pass immigration reform that would enable more agricultural workers to stay in the U.S., but the legislation has failed so far.
    The risk of enforcement against farms is likely low because of the necessity of the workers, said Leon Fresco, an immigration attorney at Holland & Knight.
    "There are some very significant business interests that obviously want agricultural labor and need it," he said.
    But for farmworkers, the fear of enforcement can create chronic stress, said Mary Jo Dudley, director of the Cornell Farmworker Program, which is training workers to know their rights if confronted by immigration officials.
    If there are again raids on meatpacking plants, immigration enforcement should take precautions to avoid detaining workers in the country legally, said Marc Perrone, international president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union, which represents some meatpacking workers.
    Edgar Franks, a former farmworker and political director at Familias Unidas por la Justicia, a worker union in Washington state, said the group is seeing new energy from workers to organize.
    "The anxiety and fear is real. But if we're together, there’s a better chance for us to fight back," he said.







    Yeah well you shouldn't have voted for the orange piece of shit...

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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 321
    OnWis97 said:
    Ibattle1 said:
    battle1 said:


    Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...
    I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

    As I call her? That's her fucking name.

    And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

    Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.
    Well the last name basis indicates maybe a little too close to the circus for my taste.

    Yes, you focused on "Ingraham", and missed the point.  Democracy works just fine.  

    I wasn't saying you created propaganda.  You missed that point too.  

    These talking heads have influence. I'm not sure what her specific influence is as vs. all the others, but if she's a right-wing pundit I've heard of it's more than zero.

    I also suspect this is somewhat reflective of the way not only "regular" MAGA people think but the executive branch if not the legislative branch. "Undermining President Trump." If you don't think there's  significant loyalty to Trump over America (it's why they say "America First" so often), I don't know what to tell you. They all think people like Mitt Romney are traitors. And as stupid as it was for Harris to use Liz Freaking Cheney to try to win votes (LOL) it was frightening that a conservative stalwart got primaried simply for not showing 100% MAGA/Trump loyalty.

    As for the bold, I hope you're right at least to the extent it worked well in the 45th term. I would love to be wrong (and I'm a known pessimist but many not-so-pessimistic people are nervous too). But I think it's in grave danger. Under 47 we're going to have the most party-loyal federal court system in US history. His cabinet is now 100% Trump devotees (correcting the "mistake" he made last time). He's got a co-president who's apparently going to throw money at primaries of anyone showing disloyalty. I want to be wrong but there's reason to be nervous. Oh, and a VP who was on the stolen election bandwagon; I wonder if he'd ever certifiy a presidential election for a Democrat. The punditization of the cabinet is at best shaping up for ineffectiveness if not intentionally bringing it down from the inside.

    This doesn't mean I'm predicting concentration camps. It's not going to look just like other terrible regimes. But there's a real chance the Republic is on the ropes right now. And hearing famous pundits demand for loyalty to one person is at best concerning.
    I'm not concerned with famous pundits at all.  That's where we differ.  I do not believe the "Republic is on the ropes" , or is in "grave danger."  
    That type of language is dangerous. 

    "Apparently"..  "I wonder."..  Do you see you are afraid of something that isn't happening?  
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,320
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    It's no wonder some of the most reasonable people here have either bailed on AMT or seldom post here any more.
    The Pearl Jam community deserves better than this.  For my part, I'll offer this apology: I'm sorry for having been a part of this rat's nest and any contribution I have made that has degraded it.  At the same time, my thinking is that AMT should really just go away.  I mean, really, what the point?


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