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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,566
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,566
    2025

    I’d venture to say 6 of 7 will pull the lever for 🍊🤡
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,599
    so tulsi endorsed trump today.

    so she actually is a closet maga. just like we have been saying for 5 years.

    she was raised a Republican.  only went for congress.....
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
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    2023
    WOW! What a fucking endorsement! Maybe POOTWH will put him in charge of the Park Service? What’s next? A giraffe being pulled by a boat story. The cult is gonna cult. Bears and whales, oh my!

    Environmental group calls for RFK Jr. to be investigated for reportedly sawing off whale head

    In a resurfaced 2012 interview, his daughter shared he had once used a chain saw to cut off a dead whale’s head to bring it home, reportedly to study.

    Former independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is back in the headlines — not for suspending his campaign last weekand endorsing Republican Donald Trump, nor for his recent admission that he was the one who had left a dead bear cub in Central Park as a joke a decade ago.

    This time, the macabre spotlight is refocused on Kennedy, the 70-year-old nephew of the late 35th president, because of a resurfaced 2012 interview in which his daughter shared he had once used a chain saw to cut off a whale’s head to bring it home, reportedly to study.

    According to Town & Country magazine, Kennedy once heard that a dead whale had washed up on Squaw Island in Hyannis Port and “ran down to the beach with a chainsaw, cut off the whale’s head, and then bungee-corded it to the roof of the family minivan for the five-hour haul back to Mount Kisco, New York.”

    “Every time we accelerated on the highway, whale juice would pour into the windows of the car, and it was the rankest thing on the planet,” Kick Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy’s daughter, told the magazine then. “We all had plastic bags over our heads with mouth holes cut out, and people on the highway were giving us the finger, but that was just normal day-to-day stuff for us.”

    Continues 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/26/rfk-jr-dead-whale-head-chainsaw/

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    2023
    Seems weird...no? 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    2023
    Seems weird...no? 

    Weird's the word!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
    2023
    Seems weird...no? 
    Many people are saying it was the disgusting democrat communist socialist welfare Marxist lying party that knew about this and endorsed this type of behaviour, all in the hope of embarrassing me, your favorite whale and bear loving president, so that Kamala and sleepy hoe Brandon would pick up the endorsement of the peta tampon crowd. Well, it won’t work because I have the hunters and the bikers, who by the way, are the real American hero’s who make sandwiches everyday and sometimes call them hamburders or fishwhiches. We’ll celebrate in November with a cookout in the rose garden. Now, if you’ll excuse me, Hannibal and Vlad have some beluga caviar chilling and we have a tea time booked.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
    2023
    WTF is wrong with this guy? Who does this? Weird.


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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    2023
    Hilarious that trump now says he doesn't care about the mics being on at the debate and that Harris is actually the one that doesn't want to debate....yet yesterday he was suggesting he might pull out.

    What an absolute fuckface.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,566
    2025
    Hilarious that trump now says he doesn't care about the mics being on at the debate and that Harris is actually the one that doesn't want to debate....yet yesterday he was suggesting he might pull out.

    What an absolute fuckface.
    Biggest F face on earth! Her campaign needs to just scream it out loud, that she’ll debate him anyway anytime anywhere and just put him on the spot! Reporter’s will never ask him about things he said yesterday compared to what he’s saying today. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,566
    2025
    And she needs to face the press it’s game on now so let’s get to it! She can’t be playing the long game with this little amount of time left till Election Day! 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    2023
    And she needs to face the press it’s game on now so let’s get to it! She can’t be playing the long game with this little amount of time left till Election Day! 
    A 60 Minute interview right before the convention would have been perfect.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    2023
    WTF is wrong with this guy? Who does this? Weird.


    weird that the lady in the blue dress is throwing the dio horns too.

    was this the "ok, now everyone do a silly pose" pic?
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    In trump’s defesne (something I rarely say) there is a group picture w/ most of them doing the Fonzie there at the grave… 
    Not everyone was having a blast though. 


  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,599
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    Who’s in for 75? A few posters come to mind.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    2023
    In trump’s defesne (something I rarely say) there is a group picture w/ most of them doing the Fonzie there at the grave… 
    Not everyone was having a blast though. 



    Pretty weird how Trump can ruin something as simple and basic as a "thumbs up".  I give him a different finger.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    brianlux said:
    In trump’s defesne (something I rarely say) there is a group picture w/ most of them doing the Fonzie there at the grave… 
    Not everyone was having a blast though. 



    Pretty weird how Trump can ruin something as simple and basic as a "thumbs up".  I give him a different finger.
    who gives a thumbs up at a grave site?  what a weirdo
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    2023
    pjhawks said:
    brianlux said:
    In trump’s defesne (something I rarely say) there is a group picture w/ most of them doing the Fonzie there at the grave… 
    Not everyone was having a blast though. 



    Pretty weird how Trump can ruin something as simple and basic as a "thumbs up".  I give him a different finger.
    who gives a thumbs up at a grave site?  what a weirdo

    Exactly, only a weirdo!  
    Pretty disgusting, really.  Imagine: you're visiting the grave site of a loved one and you look over and there are these idiots with stupid grins on their faces and they're giving thumbs up over someones grave.  Trump and company: creepy and disgusting.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    2023
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    2023
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT

    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    countdown until a trump appointed judge tosses this one out too....
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,599
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT





    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    countdown until a trump appointed judge tosses this one out too....

    pssst. this stays with chutkin.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
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    mickeyrat said:
    My man got indicted again
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/27/trump-indicted-2020-election-subversion-00176503

    Trump indicted again in election subversion case brought by Jack Smith

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by the special counsel, is an attempt to recalibrate the case after the Supreme Court’s immunity decision.

    Special counsel Jack Smith speaks behind a lectern

    The new indictment is a signal that special counsel Jack Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

    By Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein

    08/27/2024 04:19 PM EDT

    Updated: 08/27/2024 04:31 PM EDT





    A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has reindicted Donald Trump on four felony charges related to his effort to subvert the 2020 presidential election.

    The 36-page indictment, secured Tuesday by special counsel Jack Smith, is an attempt by prosecutors to recalibrate the case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling last month that concluded presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from prosecution for their official conduct.

    The new indictment removes some specific allegations against Trump but contains the same four criminal charges, including conspiracy to defraud the United States. It’s a signal that Smith believes the high court’s immunity decision doesn’t pose a major impediment to convicting the former president.

    “The superseding indictment, which was presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case, reflects the Government’s efforts to respect and implement the Supreme Court’s holdings and remand instructions,” Smith’s team wrote in an accompanying court filing.

    In an apparent bid to downplay any connection between Trump’s conduct and his official duties, the new charging document repeatedly emphasizes the political and personal nature of many of the actions Trump took during the post-election period and on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The new indictment underscores that Mike Pence was not only vice president, but also Trump’s “running mate” when Trump pressured Pence to block the certification of the election results. It notes that Trump’s rally at the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021, was “privately-funded” and “privately-organized.” And it stresses that Trump often used his Twitter account for “personal purposes.”

    The new document also eliminates a long list of top government officials who had informed Trump that his claims about election fraud and anomalies were false, including top intelligence, Justice Department, homeland security officials and White House lawyers.

    Smith’s original 45-page indictment, unveiled last August, included claims that Trump sought to use the Justice Department to advance what prosecutors contend was an unlawful and fraudulent effort to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. Those details, which the Supreme Court described as largely outside the reach of prosecutors, have been omitted from the new, shorter charging document.

    The new indictment adds no new defendants, but deletes all references to one alleged co-conspirator mentioned in the earlier indictment without being named or charged: former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark.

    Clark held a Senate-confirmed post as head of DOJ’s Environmental and Natural Resources Division and was serving as the acting head of the department’s Civil Division at the end of the Trump administration when Trump considered a plan to install Clark to replace acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

    Witnesses told a House investigation that, in the weeks after the 2020 election, Rosen and other Trump appointees had refused to send letters to local election officials claiming fraud in the presidential election results, but Clark was willing to do so. Trump ultimately abandoned the plan after nearly all of the senior leaders of the Justice Department said they would resign in protest.

    countdown until a trump appointed judge tosses this one out too....

    pssst. this stays with chutkin.
    my bad. i got this indictment confused with the other ones....
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