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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023
    every fucking year the GOP goes on and on about saying "Merry Christmas" again even though everyone says it all the fucking time. It's so fucking stupid I can't stand it.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,253
    mace1229 said:
    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    i'm surprised they didn't think less of her for not wanting to deal with the "fahking creasemoose decorations" again that one year.
    my god can you imagine how the magats would have reacted to Jill Biden or Michelle Obama going that route?
    I didn’t remember that quote, so I just looked it up.
    She said “"I'm working ... my a** off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it, right?"

    And she’s kinda right. I can’t recall any time I’ve ever paid attention to the White House Christmas decor. Who really cares? The only Christmas related thing I can think of was that really weird video the Bidens released a couple years ago, and people only talked about it because it was bad. No good publicity comes from Christmas at the White House.

    But I agree, definitely a bad look to get caught saying that, even if it’s true.
    how'd i know you would be the one to leap in to defend what she said?

    the republicans have a monopoly on christmas. everything is always a war on christmas. the first lady shits all over christmas decorations and says how she really feels and you miss the irony. if this had been jill biden, hillary clinton, or michelle obama the gop would have lost their collective shit.
    It is a big task. She has to single-handedly pick out the company that the White House is going to hire to hang the decor.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,312
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    i'm surprised they didn't think less of her for not wanting to deal with the "fahking creasemoose decorations" again that one year.
    my god can you imagine how the magats would have reacted to Jill Biden or Michelle Obama going that route?
    I didn’t remember that quote, so I just looked it up.
    She said “"I'm working ... my a** off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it, right?"

    And she’s kinda right. I can’t recall any time I’ve ever paid attention to the White House Christmas decor. Who really cares? The only Christmas related thing I can think of was that really weird video the Bidens released a couple years ago, and people only talked about it because it was bad. No good publicity comes from Christmas at the White House.

    But I agree, definitely a bad look to get caught saying that, even if it’s true.
    how'd i know you would be the one to leap in to defend what she said?

    the republicans have a monopoly on christmas. everything is always a war on christmas. the first lady shits all over christmas decorations and says how she really feels and you miss the irony. if this had been jill biden, hillary clinton, or michelle obama the gop would have lost their collective shit.
    It is a big task. She has to single-handedly pick out the company that the White House is going to hire to hang the decor.
    I don't think anyone can quite grasp the stress of that role.  Sometimes there are 3 or 4 options even.  With a staff of only 20 or so, how can one be expected to do that?  Makes no sense.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,197
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    i'm surprised they didn't think less of her for not wanting to deal with the "fahking creasemoose decorations" again that one year.
    my god can you imagine how the magats would have reacted to Jill Biden or Michelle Obama going that route?
    I didn’t remember that quote, so I just looked it up.
    She said “"I'm working ... my a** off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it, right?"

    And she’s kinda right. I can’t recall any time I’ve ever paid attention to the White House Christmas decor. Who really cares? The only Christmas related thing I can think of was that really weird video the Bidens released a couple years ago, and people only talked about it because it was bad. No good publicity comes from Christmas at the White House.

    But I agree, definitely a bad look to get caught saying that, even if it’s true.
    how'd i know you would be the one to leap in to defend what she said?

    the republicans have a monopoly on christmas. everything is always a war on christmas. the first lady shits all over christmas decorations and says how she really feels and you miss the irony. if this had been jill biden, hillary clinton, or michelle obama the gop would have lost their collective shit.
    It is a big task. She has to single-handedly pick out the company that the White House is going to hire to hang the decor.
    I don't think anyone can quite grasp the stress of that role.  Sometimes there are 3 or 4 options even.  With a staff of only 20 or so, how can one be expected to do that?  Makes no sense.  
    And don’t forget the different rooms of the White House, all with their one tree, sometimes two or more, with separate themes and color schemes, plus what to do with and where to place the White House’s chef’s gingerbread house. It’s not like it’s one and done with the private residence and that’s it. By the time you get upstairs and have to figure out what to do with the golf simulator, you’d be a stark raving lunatic too. Waaaaaaaay too much pressure.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    i'm surprised they didn't think less of her for not wanting to deal with the "fahking creasemoose decorations" again that one year.
    my god can you imagine how the magats would have reacted to Jill Biden or Michelle Obama going that route?
    I didn’t remember that quote, so I just looked it up.
    She said “"I'm working ... my a** off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it, right?"

    And she’s kinda right. I can’t recall any time I’ve ever paid attention to the White House Christmas decor. Who really cares? The only Christmas related thing I can think of was that really weird video the Bidens released a couple years ago, and people only talked about it because it was bad. No good publicity comes from Christmas at the White House.

    But I agree, definitely a bad look to get caught saying that, even if it’s true.
    how'd i know you would be the one to leap in to defend what she said?

    the republicans have a monopoly on christmas. everything is always a war on christmas. the first lady shits all over christmas decorations and says how she really feels and you miss the irony. if this had been jill biden, hillary clinton, or michelle obama the gop would have lost their collective shit.
    It is a big task. She has to single-handedly pick out the company that the White House is going to hire to hang the decor.
    That's what I don't get...she didn't have to do a damn thing except tell a peon to "handle it" and she just couldn't take it.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,406
    2023
    mace1229 said:
    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    i'm surprised they didn't think less of her for not wanting to deal with the "fahking creasemoose decorations" again that one year.
    my god can you imagine how the magats would have reacted to Jill Biden or Michelle Obama going that route?
    I didn’t remember that quote, so I just looked it up.
    She said “"I'm working ... my a** off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it, right?"

    And she’s kinda right. I can’t recall any time I’ve ever paid attention to the White House Christmas decor. Who really cares? The only Christmas related thing I can think of was that really weird video the Bidens released a couple years ago, and people only talked about it because it was bad. No good publicity comes from Christmas at the White House.

    But I agree, definitely a bad look to get caught saying that, even if it’s true.
    how'd i know you would be the one to leap in to defend what she said?

    the republicans have a monopoly on christmas. everything is always a war on christmas. the first lady shits all over christmas decorations and says how she really feels and you miss the irony. if this had been jill biden, hillary clinton, or michelle obama the gop would have lost their collective shit.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,035
    2023
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    i'm surprised they didn't think less of her for not wanting to deal with the "fahking creasemoose decorations" again that one year.
    my god can you imagine how the magats would have reacted to Jill Biden or Michelle Obama going that route?
    I didn’t remember that quote, so I just looked it up.
    She said “"I'm working ... my a** off on the Christmas stuff, that you know, who gives a f*** about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it, right?"

    And she’s kinda right. I can’t recall any time I’ve ever paid attention to the White House Christmas decor. Who really cares? The only Christmas related thing I can think of was that really weird video the Bidens released a couple years ago, and people only talked about it because it was bad. No good publicity comes from Christmas at the White House.

    But I agree, definitely a bad look to get caught saying that, even if it’s true.
    how'd i know you would be the one to leap in to defend what she said?

    the republicans have a monopoly on christmas. everything is always a war on christmas. the first lady shits all over christmas decorations and says how she really feels and you miss the irony. if this had been jill biden, hillary clinton, or michelle obama the gop would have lost their collective shit.
    It is a big task. She has to single-handedly pick out the company that the White House is going to hire to hang the decor.
    That's what I don't get...she didn't have to do a damn thing except tell a peon to "handle it" and she just couldn't take it.
    exactly. just delegate.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,970
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    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    And Russian. MAGA loves Russia/Russians.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,312
    OnWis97 said:
    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    And Russian. MAGA loves Russia/Russians.
    Easy there buddy. She's Slovenian. But her father was a Commie. So that makes her commie through the bloodline. 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,970
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    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'm still surprised magats gave Melania a break.
    Why wouldn’t they? She’s white and they’ve seen her nekked. 
    And Russian. MAGA loves Russia/Russians.
    Easy there buddy. She's Slovenian. But her father was a Commie. So that makes her commie through the bloodline. 
    Drat. I thought she was Russian.

    As for the "Who gives a fook about christmas?" stuff, I thought it was kinda funny. I certainly didn't care about it directly, but I could not help but think that MAGA would still be talking about it had Michelle said something like that."
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,253
    I completely agree if it was Michelle who said that, it would have been a big deal.
    I remember people posting unflattering pictures of Michelle with captions that the First Lady is supposed to be classy. And worse. So I’m sure she would have gotten crap for not caring about Christmas decorations.

    But It’s not a big deal, I’m sure every one of us has said something privately to a close friend that was much worse and would be mortified if it were secretly recorded and released.
    Public opinion is she doesn’t want the First Lady gig. When she married Donald she didn’t think she’d have to work for the money (outside the bedroom).
    What that statement does do is give credibility to the belief she never wanted to be there in the first place.
    She didn’t show the the RNC yet has she? I find that really strange, even someone slightly pretending to care would show up.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,406
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    2023
    mace1229 said:
    I completely agree if it was Michelle who said that, it would have been a big deal.
    I remember people posting unflattering pictures of Michelle with captions that the First Lady is supposed to be classy. And worse. So I’m sure she would have gotten crap for not caring about Christmas decorations.

    But It’s not a big deal, I’m sure every one of us has said something privately to a close friend that was much worse and would be mortified if it were secretly recorded and released.
    Public opinion is she doesn’t want the First Lady gig. When she married Donald she didn’t think she’d have to work for the money (outside the bedroom).
    What that statement does do is give credibility to the belief she never wanted to be there in the first place.
    She didn’t show the the RNC yet has she? I find that really strange, even someone slightly pretending to care would show up.
    It's not a big deal...it's just yet another example of them being full of shit disingenuous bastards as her husband was making an enormous deal about how important Christmas should be to everyone. Now we know his wife doesn't seem to give a shit. 

    By the way, have you noticed how nobody says "Merry Christmas anymore?" I bet that's gonna change if Trump gets elected again baby!!! Woo!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,408
    2023
    mace1229 said:
    I completely agree if it was Michelle who said that, it would have been a big deal.
    I remember people posting unflattering pictures of Michelle with captions that the First Lady is supposed to be classy. And worse. So I’m sure she would have gotten crap for not caring about Christmas decorations.

    But It’s not a big deal, I’m sure every one of us has said something privately to a close friend that was much worse and would be mortified if it were secretly recorded and released.
    Public opinion is she doesn’t want the First Lady gig. When she married Donald she didn’t think she’d have to work for the money (outside the bedroom).
    What that statement does do is give credibility to the belief she never wanted to be there in the first place.
    She didn’t show the the RNC yet has she? I find that really strange, even someone slightly pretending to care would show up.
    I'm still seeing the occasional bullshit that Michelle is actually "Mike"....unbelievably stupid
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,312
    mace1229 said:
    I completely agree if it was Michelle who said that, it would have been a big deal.
    I remember people posting unflattering pictures of Michelle with captions that the First Lady is supposed to be classy. And worse. So I’m sure she would have gotten crap for not caring about Christmas decorations.

    But It’s not a big deal, I’m sure every one of us has said something privately to a close friend that was much worse and would be mortified if it were secretly recorded and released.
    Public opinion is she doesn’t want the First Lady gig. When she married Donald she didn’t think she’d have to work for the money (outside the bedroom).
    What that statement does do is give credibility to the belief she never wanted to be there in the first place.
    She didn’t show the the RNC yet has she? I find that really strange, even someone slightly pretending to care would show up.
    It's not a big deal...it's just yet another example of them being full of shit disingenuous bastards as her husband was making an enormous deal about how important Christmas should be to everyone. Now we know his wife doesn't seem to give a shit. 

    By the way, have you noticed how nobody says "Merry Christmas anymore?" I bet that's gonna change if Trump gets elected again baby!!! Woo!
    I told a priest Merry Christmas when Obama was president and he gave me the finger.  It all changed in 2016.  Then America was great. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,035
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I completely agree if it was Michelle who said that, it would have been a big deal.
    I remember people posting unflattering pictures of Michelle with captions that the First Lady is supposed to be classy. And worse. So I’m sure she would have gotten crap for not caring about Christmas decorations.

    But It’s not a big deal, I’m sure every one of us has said something privately to a close friend that was much worse and would be mortified if it were secretly recorded and released.
    Public opinion is she doesn’t want the First Lady gig. When she married Donald she didn’t think she’d have to work for the money (outside the bedroom).
    What that statement does do is give credibility to the belief she never wanted to be there in the first place.
    She didn’t show the the RNC yet has she? I find that really strange, even someone slightly pretending to care would show up.
    It's not a big deal...it's just yet another example of them being full of shit disingenuous bastards as her husband was making an enormous deal about how important Christmas should be to everyone. Now we know his wife doesn't seem to give a shit. 

    By the way, have you noticed how nobody says "Merry Christmas anymore?" I bet that's gonna change if Trump gets elected again baby!!! Woo!
    I told a priest Merry Christmas when Obama was president and he gave me the finger.  It all changed in 2016.  Then America was great. 
    i wonder why the slogan is not magaa instead of maga. make america great again, again.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,624
    2023
    "Providential"?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,406
    2023
    Yeesh....wonder if Trump should drop out. That was weak. The whole night was them shooting themselves in the ear. Hulk Hogan? Kid Rock? What?

    That was not an attempt to reach out to any non magas. 

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,624
    2023
    Low energy.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,406
    2023
    Poncier said:
    Low energy.
    His problem has always been when he tries to sound normal, it sounds like he is on quaaludes and/or about to fall asleep. 

    Him reading off the teleprompter about his first hand account of what happened last week was weird too. Felt like he was reading it for the first time.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/18/health/dr-sanjay-gupta-analysis-trump/index.html?cid=ios_app

    Dr. Sanjay Gupta: There are still key questions about Trump’s injuries after attempted assassination


    It’s been five days since gunfire erupted at Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, resulting in an injury to the former president, the death of one attendee, Corey Comperatore, and severe injuries to two others.

    RELATED ARTICLETrump’s team wasn’t told about reports of suspicious person before rally shooting, sources say

    And although the images we’ve seen of Trump since his attempted assassination have been those of a person who was barely injured and is now in high spirits, what we’ve been told by the campaign offers very little insight into the former president’s condition, what kind of care he received or how his medical team will monitor him in the days and weeks ahead.

    A full public assessment of Trump’s injuries is necessary, for both the former president’s own health and the clarity it can provide for voters about the recovery of the man who could become president of the United States once again. The concern is that gunshot blasts near the head can cause injuries that aren’t immediately noticeable, such as bleeding in or on the brain, damage to the inner ear or even psychological trauma. As a trauma neurosurgeon, I have seen how a thorough evaluation after any kind of gunshot wound can provide a complete picture and lead to a speedier recovery.

    The first hour

    The first official communication about Trump’s health from his campaign came about 40 minutes after the shooting. It simply said Trump was “fine” and was “being checked out at a local medical facility.” It added that more details would follow.

    However, the only other official details came about two hours later, in a post by Trump himself on Truth Social, where he wrote: “I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin.”

    Beyond that, most of what we know about his injury is based on what we’ve seen in pictures and video, and from secondhand accounts.

    A source familiar with the matter told CNN on Sunday that Trump underwent a number of “routine” tests at the hospital, including a CT scan that came back normal.

    CNN has repeatedly reached out to the Trump campaign and Butler Memorial Hospital, where Trump was treated, for more information but has not received further details about his condition or care. CNN reached out to the Trump campaign for comment again Thursday.

    What we know about Trump’s injury

    In the moments immediately following the sounds of gunfire on Saturday, we saw Trump raise his right hand to his ear and the side of his face. He did not collapse but seemed to duck to the ground of his own accord.

    With US Secret Service surrounding him, he stood up about a minute later, raised his right arm and was able to walk and speak immediately. We saw him rouse the audience, telling them to “Fight!” as he pumped his fist in the air. From a medical standpoint, these are all very good signs and, despite the visible blood on his face, provided evidence that he wasn’t severely injured.

    US Rep. Ronny Jackson, Trump’s former White House physician, said during an interview Monday on “The Benny Show” podcast, that he “checked out” the wound to Trump’s ear and bandaged it himself. He added that “there was no concussive effect from the bullet” because it was far enough from Trump’s head.

    “It just took the top of his ear off, a little bit of the top of his ear off, as it passed through,” Jackson said. “It was bleeding like crazy.”  
     
    Trump was transported to nearby Butler Memorial Hospital. Dr. David Rottinghaus, an emergency room physician there, said the hospital had been in contact with the Secret Service before Saturday’s rally. Rottinghaus, who did not treat Trump himself and would not comment on Trump’s treatment or condition, said he came to the hospital shortly after the shooting to help triage patients.

    “We do prepare for incidents like this. We had had advanced visits in the past for rallies when Mr. Trump was here. The last was the end of 2020. We have worked with the Secret Service in the past and local and federal law enforcement to come up with plans about if an incident like this happened,” Rottinghaus told CNN.

    Those plans included designating a bed in the ER in case it was needed, having clinical teams at the rally itself to treat patients on-site for minor medical issues, and avoiding overwhelming the hospital if there were a crisis.

    When the unthinkable happened, Rottinghaus said, it took just minutes for Butler Memorial to put its plan into action, locking down the hospital and diverting patients to other health care facilities.

    Although we were told that Trump had a CT scan and other routine exams, it is not clear when these tests were performed, who read the scans or whether his brain specifically was examined.

    In the Monday interview, Jackson said Trump’s injury was “dressed up. He’ll be OK. … It’s going to granulate and heal in, and he’s not going to need anything to be done with it.” 
     
    On Wednesday, in an interview with CBS News, Eric Trump said that his father had “no stitches but certainly, certainly a nice flesh wound.”

    And Trump has been moving around the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee this week, talking and smiling through speeches with a bandage on his ear.

    What we don’t know

    All of this points to a favorable prognosis. But it is still surprising that we have not heard more about the exact diagnosis and care of what may have been a catastrophic injury. And, while all the attention has been on his ear and right side of his head, that doesn’t mean other injuries may not be present. It’s not even clear that he was struck by a primary projectile from the rifle, a secondary projectile or a combination of both. Sometimes, it can be difficult to know without an in-depth evaluation.

    We do know that the shooter used an AR-15-style weapon, and in my experience in the operating room, I’ve witnessed the kind of trauma this weapon can cause. The kinetic energy of it is significant: A rifle like the AR-15 can produce up to 1,300 foot-pounds of force. With that much power close to the head, there can be injuries beyond what’s visible.

    For example, a fracture to the thin bone in that region of the skull, an epidural hematoma (or bleeding between the skull and the brain) and damage to the bones of the inner ear, which can result in hearing loss, vertigo or dizziness.

    A CT scan can usually detect such injuries, but they aren’t always immediately apparent. As a result, sometimes patients are observed in the hospital and may even undergo a repeat CT scan.

    The stress from a shooting can also have psychological effects.

    “In the chaos that immediately follows being shot, these psychological impacts don’t always manifest,” said Dr. Kenji Inaba, a trauma surgeon with the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California. “It can come up later on, and it’s something that we always need to be acutely aware of.”

    The good news is that most physical symptoms of an injury would probably have revealed themselves over the past few days. At this point, however, the Trump campaign hasn’t yet shared whether a full workup was done at the time or if there has been any follow-up since.

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      Rottinghaus, the Butler Memorial physician, told CNN that after all the preparation for the unthinkable, “the unexpected happened” on Saturday. Still, the hospital considers it a successful day: Staff juggled the arrival of a former president with care for their other patients. What made it work, he said, was communication, clear planning and preparation to act.

      In an intense political season for the country, that kind of collaboration and communication may be a lesson for the candidates, too.

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