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*** THE 1ST, 2ND, 3RD, AND 4TH ARREST, INDICTMENTS, AND TRIALS OF DONALD J TRUMP ***

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
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    elections are rigged (unless my candidate wins!)
    the justice system is rigged (unless the people I hate go to prison!)
    trump was a joke (until he became my savior!)

    it's all so laughable.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495

    elections are rigged (unless my candidate wins!)
    the justice system is rigged (unless the people I hate go to prison!)
    trump was a joke (until he became my savior!)

    it's all so laughable.
    & completely untethered from reality.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,008
    Kat said:

    Justice Juan Merchan explicitly told Donald Trump, “Please refrain from making statements that are likely to incite violence or civil unrest ... making comments that have potential to incite violence, create civil unrest [or] jeopardize the state or well-being of any individuals.” He also asked Trump not to engage in rhetoric that will “jeopardize the rule of law.”

    He also asked that the people ask their witnesses to control their public statements as well. Prosecutor Chris Connolly responded that they would try.

     I'm wondering the judge's opinion of this.




    I haven’t seen the context of the new post, but if he’s just posting pictures of the daughter, then that’s wrong.

    But this post also implies trump is connected to that first murder. He’s not. The motive was clear, the gunman was mad about a case the judge worked on.

    Either way, all personal information on judges should be private and off limits.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,781
    mace1229 said:
    Kat said:

    Justice Juan Merchan explicitly told Donald Trump, “Please refrain from making statements that are likely to incite violence or civil unrest ... making comments that have potential to incite violence, create civil unrest [or] jeopardize the state or well-being of any individuals.” He also asked Trump not to engage in rhetoric that will “jeopardize the rule of law.”

    He also asked that the people ask their witnesses to control their public statements as well. Prosecutor Chris Connolly responded that they would try.

     I'm wondering the judge's opinion of this.




    I haven’t seen the context of the new post, but if he’s just posting pictures of the daughter, then that’s wrong.

    But this post also implies trump is connected to that first murder. He’s not. The motive was clear, the gunman was mad about a case the judge worked on.

    Either way, all personal information on judges should be private and off limits.

    context is she worked on the harris campaign and/or the harris end of the biden/harris campaign  
    therefore the judge is biased. nevermind this wasnt raised when he presided over the trump org case last year. only because fuckatick is in the hot seat.
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    mickeyrat said:
    Did someone throw their skateboard in front of him?  That's awful.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,298
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    Yeah go ahead tell us how Trumpolinni is the same as all the other presidents no different than Biden! We’re you at court house yesterday or at mar Leigo showing your support? 
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    mickeyrat said:
    Did someone throw their skateboard in front of him?  That's awful.
    Yeah poor skate board 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    mickeyrat said:
    Did someone throw their skateboard in front of him?  That's awful.
    I found it awfully funny, NGL. 
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    ParksyParksy Posts: 1,675
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279
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    Parksy said:
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,298
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    Parksy said:
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
    Zero pity for him and his ilks none! I hope he ends just rusting away with self pity all alone.
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    ParksyParksy Posts: 1,675
    Parksy said:
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
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    Ahhh  I thought it was Vegas. My bad! lol   Facts do matter. 
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,008
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    I just got back from a road trip through the deep south (Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee) and I think i saw about 2 of those dumb Trump flags and one large tipped wagon along the highway that said dump Trump so I don't think he has the support he, or even some on the left, believe. I didn't see it like I did locally here in MN a few years ago. I saw way more confederate flags.
    He’s still republicans first choice and by the end of the week the indictment will give him another 3-5 point bump. 
    So it seems like there is more than just Stormy here.  The Karen McDougal case is probably a part of it, considering David Pecker from the Enquirer testified to the Grand Jury as well.  

    Everyone keeps saying that because campaign finance is a federal law, that's not in play.  But that doesn't mean NY doesn't have election laws.  Those are common in all states.  Anyone know specific about NY?
    What I hear more than the federal issue, is what is the larger crime? I have to admit, watching some of the news highlights last night seemed odd.
    I heard Bragg say more than once this is a felony because it was to cover up a larger crime, but declined to say what the larger crime was. If there was a larger crime, why is that not included? If there isn't, what does that mean for these charges?
    "“Under New York state law, it is a felony to falsify business records with intent to defraud and intent to conceal another crime. That is exactly what this case is about: 34 false statements, made to cover up other crimes,” Bragg told reporters in a news conference. "

    So the falsifying records in itself is not a felony without a larger crime to cover up? Why not indict for that too? Or is the intent to defraud the swaying voters?  I didn't think that was it, the impression I got was this was to cover up a bigger crime they they haven't listed. So what is it, why not list and charge for that too?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279
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    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,159
    Ok, so something I don't get.  Vince McMahon from the WWE did similar things.  He cheated on his wife, payed hush money to the women he had affairs with, and the hush money came from a publicly traded company (WWE).   All Vince had to do was lay low for a while and slowly come back.   I'm struggling to understand how was Trump did differs from that situation?
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,015
    mickeyrat said:
    Did someone throw their skateboard in front of him?  That's awful.
    I found it awfully funny, NGL. 
    I laughed too then I thought about being up that high and wiping out... Not so fun.
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    Zod said:
    Ok, so something I don't get.  Vince McMahon from the WWE did similar things.  He cheated on his wife, payed hush money to the women he had affairs with, and the hush money came from a publicly traded company (WWE).   All Vince had to do was lay low for a while and slowly come back.   I'm struggling to understand how was Trump did differs from that situation?
    Maybe it has something to do with running for president? Campaign laws? 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
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    Parksy said:
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
    I've never been a fan of Colbert, Kimmel, etc, nor am I fan of the political commentary / entertainment type of show. I loved John Stewart 20 or so years ago on the Daily Show, but that was a different time. (& he was GREAT at it) 

    With that being said, I think trump getting indicted IS a good thing, as it shows how the legal system should work, and that in theory, no one is above the law, just as the founding fathers intended. 

    I've heard it suggested that this is a bad idea and will open the door to indicting all former politicians, but I'm not overly concerned about that considering the grand jury process. 

    There's a lot of things about America that have embarrassed me over the years... this indictment isn't one of them. 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    mickeyrat said:
    Did someone throw their skateboard in front of him?  That's awful.
    I found it awfully funny, NGL. 
    I laughed too then I thought about being up that high and wiping out... Not so fun.
    I get that it's shitty of me as a human being to laugh at that as much as I did, but it's pretty hard not to. The guy got dressed up like that to act like a jackass and get attention. 

    Mission accomplished. 
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,008
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    Zod said:
    Ok, so something I don't get.  Vince McMahon from the WWE did similar things.  He cheated on his wife, payed hush money to the women he had affairs with, and the hush money came from a publicly traded company (WWE).   All Vince had to do was lay low for a while and slowly come back.   I'm struggling to understand how was Trump did differs from that situation?
    Maybe it has something to do with running for president? Campaign laws? 
    Yes, campaign finance violations. I hear he was supposed to record it as a campaign expense or donation. Not sure which of those 2 is correct. Nothing illegal about the hush money, it show he reported it. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
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    Parksy said:
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
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    ParksyParksy Posts: 1,675
    Zod said:
    Ok, so something I don't get.  Vince McMahon from the WWE did similar things.  He cheated on his wife, payed hush money to the women he had affairs with, and the hush money came from a publicly traded company (WWE).   All Vince had to do was lay low for a while and slowly come back.   I'm struggling to understand how was Trump did differs from that situation?
    I agree with this for sure.  I think the difference is the standard of which a person should or could be held. How this pertains to the law itself...  perhaps not in writing but in court arguments these will stand the measure of mitigating and litigating factors. 

    Vince is a corporate executive who is awful. 

    Trump is (was) a political nominee and is now an ex-president (and corporate executive). 

    I would say that in general, would people think of the same crime being committed by two different people be different in the eyes of the law? I think so.  If a junkie stole from a Wal-Mart he or she would receive (this) in punishment.  If a cop or a mayor did the same crime, would the punishment be different in the eyes of the law? Yes. I'm not overly familiar with US laws.. but in Canada case law plays a huge role in our justice system.  

    So if Trump did all the same things as Vince... but he stayed away from public office, I think his situation would be similar to Vince's. 

    (The similarities between the two, and Trump's literal entrance in the WWE Hall of Fame speaks even more volumes as to how messed up it is that he was President. And I believe his tactics for getting into office were very, very, very similar to that of that day time acting portrayed on WWE. But that's a whole other conversation lol) 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Parksy said:
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
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    ParksyParksy Posts: 1,675
    mrussel1 said:
    Parksy said:
    I'm curious about opinions here... 

    I think Trump is your national embarrassment and a forever stain on a normally good country. That said... Trump was in charge for 4 years, and then after that dumpster fire of a presidency still got 74 million votes...  winning support on populist fear mongering propaganda. In 2023, he gets indicted in your justice system for amongst other things trying to hide a hush money payment to a porn star that he banged in Vegas while his wife was at home with their newborn. He's just awful.

    That said.. in this culture war... you have those for him and those against him.  I watch the likes of Colbert and Kimmel often.  And while I personally find their schtick's funny...  I also think about how sad it is or must be for Americans.

    So my question is.. do you Americans ever watch the likes of Colbert, etc. and think to yourself "this is nothing to laugh about. This is nothing to celebrate." 

    I remember when Bin Laden was captured and killed, there were celebrations on the streets and that became a bit polarizing in itself if I recall.  There were many folks suggesting that celebrating the death of an enemy was still in bad taste. Is there a similar sentiment in America with regards to what's going on with your political system and with Trumpism? Just curious. 
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    good point. And thank you. Thank you Jose as well. 
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