---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

Lerxst1992

teskeinc said:

Lerxst1992 said:

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

Yeah sure don’t see how his policies help middle class families 

Safe to assume everyone survived the 20-50% inflation increases on everything over the last 4 years. But that was a small price trying to save democracy I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

But you conveniently ignore the trump tax cut data presented, and the huge increase of the top 1% wealth gains since the Reagan1980s. And you continually ignore the facts presented that Trump played a key role in the demise of the supply chains during covid leading to the initial increase in prices. Gotta ignore alot of facts to enjoy maga land.

You ignored all the pro-Trump polls pre-election because you didn’t like what they showed. Facts are you don’t know what is going to happen. If you believe everyone here you would be admitted to a mental institution. These are sensationalists who still think they are smarter than everyone else and can’t figure out why they lost. Continue to regurgitate the same talking points that CNN and MSDNC shoved down their throats for the last several months. Now they want the country to fail so they can say “I told you so.” And even if Trump is successful and does what the majority wants, they will never give any credit, just complain about Jan 6 for 4 more years.

These people here make you wish Project 2025 was actually true.

WTF is this man? I'm referring to two specific charts, ones showing his tax cut plan increasing taxes for incomes under 400k, and the other showing the growth of the elites wealth post Reagan. No talking points, but actual data.

Go back and read my posts from October. Plenty of concern about polls, but that's not even what my comment was about here.

You and shekky proving with every comment you are all about spiking the football, and have zero concern about making things better.


Edit, charts quoted to the next comment box.

 

Lerxst1992

Lerxst1992 said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

tbergs said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

BF25394 said:

The Juggler said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-mandate-myth-175155368.html

It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)

I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.

I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.

I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.

Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.

Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 

To you last sentence, I would say that they clearly don't care and won't care. There doesn't seem to be an actual interest in whether any of the stuff Trump said will actually happen. Many only seem to care that their person won. They don't care about his character, the character of his cabinet or if any of them will improve their lives. They like what he said he'd do and approve of these non-traditional picks because these are the people Trump needs around him to carry out some of his extreme agenda items. In 4 years, they'll just vote for which ever person yells louder about exaggerated issues. It will just be harder for the incumbent party to separate themselves from the mess he's going to create. I expect that the dems will sweep back all branches in 2028 as long as they go through a rigorous primary to nominate a strong candidate and SCOTUS doesn't uphold some new exception that fucks up things. 

The first chance to take back the House is in 2026, not 2028. Trump made headway with people who don't vote regularly. A lot of those people will not even be aware that every seat in the House is up for election in 2026. Republicans have 50.74 percent of the aggregate 2024 House vote at present. The party of the incumbent president typically faces major headwinds in the midterm election, and they don't have a large majority they are starting from.

All they have to do is run ads that Democrats fight for men who cosplay their sexual fantasies and dress and pretend to be women so they can hang out legally in women’s restrooms and they will never hold a majority again. 

They ran those ads this year and still did not get 50 percent of the presidential vote. Good luck trying that approach after two years of the Trump shit show reminds the low-information people why they voted him out the first time, and after the return of sky-high inflation thanks to tariffs.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 
We just lived through the sky-highest inflation of our lifetime!

I don't know how old you are, but I'm old enough for this statement not to be true (and I suspect you are, too). Anyway, my post acknowledges that there was sky-high inflation during the Biden term. The point is that many voters do not understand the macroeconomic reasons why inflation soared. They just blamed the sitting administration for it regardless of the extent to which it was the result of that administration's policies. And if inflation soars again in the next four years, they will do the same thing (even though the right-wing media sphere will be certain either to ignore the issue or twist themselves in knots to explain it away-- prepare for the argument that five-percent inflation in 2026 is somehow better than 2.3-percent inflation in 2024).

But still better than the 9% in 22 and 23.

Open to any of the maga supporters who occasionally visit here. 
 

Economically, why would you vote for trump?
(Assuming your income is under $360,000. If it's greater, congrats!)

Without a doubt, his 2017 tax cuts benefitted the wealthiest . And his current tax plan obviously will repeat that:









And we can even see the long term impact of republican supply side tax cuts favoring the wealthy. It should be very obvious in this chart when Reaganomics began:






And....if we can keep this to provable facts and evidence please, and not political rhetoric 

Here you go teske, the charts referenced

josevolution

2025

Lerxst1992 said:

Mi Lerxst1992 said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

BF25394 said:

tbergs said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

BF25394 said:

The Juggler said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-mandate-myth-175155368.html

It really is bizarre. For the eighth time in nine presidential elections since 1988, the Republican candidate failed to obtain 50 percent of the popular vote. Where are all the thinkpieces asking why Republicans have so much difficulty appealing to a majority of the electorate?

The fact of the matter is that we have a closely divided electorate. Obama's 53-46 win is probably about as much of a landslide as is possible under current conditions. Republicans are going to end up with 49.8 or 49.9 percent of the 2024 presidential vote and about 50.5 percent of the aggregate House vote. That's enough to win, but they would be wise to pay attention to the repeated lessons of the 21st century. Overread your "mandate" and the voters will turn on you in the next election, as they did on Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018 and Biden in 2022 (yes, Republicans won back the House majority in 2022 despite the common mischaracterization that the Democrats "won" in 2022-- they defeated expectations, but expectations are made up; they lost what matters, a majority of House seats). 

If we had a parliamentary system, Republicans and Democrats would each probably get around 45-46 percent of the vote and one of them would have to cobble together a governing coalition with minor parties. Under our dumb system, you don't even need to get 50 percent of the aggregate House vote to be the majority party. And the Senate is even dumber. Two senators for Wyoming's 600,000 people and two senators for California's 40 million. Two senators for Vermont's 750,000 people and two senators for Texas' 30 million.)

I remember in the 1990s within the 10 total minutes I spent listening to Rush Limbaugh, he ripped Clinton for not having 50% of the popular vote (which was obviously driven by Ross Perot, when no such third-party presence had been there for the Reagan/Bush wins). I suspect he stopped talking about that in 2000.

I was a dittohead and bought two of his books. It is interesting to think that he will be remembered for nothing. Yet trump gave him the medal of freedom.

I neither know nor care what he'll be remembered for. That said, I kind of consider him the grandfather of our current political climate. From the little that I heard (and I guess you'd know more than I) his entire schtick was whining about and villainizing the left/Dems/libs. And now that's pretty much the entire "news" that a huge chunk of the country gets.

Yeah that was it. He just had a really good radio presence. He was funny and not really evil like he became to be later in life. The schtick had to get more aggressive to keep people interested. He gave birth to the Mark Levin style of idiocy.

Ha....Gern, as a young teenager, I used to watch Limbaugh's show back then too. I think my parents got me his book as a xmas gift. 

BFS is right---there is no mandate by Trump. The guy has run three times and has never gotten more than 50% of the vote. There is no reason to build a cabinet made up of the most partisan unqualified dopes imaginable...yet here we are. 



I am curious what the 49.9% will say in the near future when they realize the price of their bacon continued to rise or that we wound in a massive recession. 

To you last sentence, I would say that they clearly don't care and won't care. There doesn't seem to be an actual interest in whether any of the stuff Trump said will actually happen. Many only seem to care that their person won. They don't care about his character, the character of his cabinet or if any of them will improve their lives. They like what he said he'd do and approve of these non-traditional picks because these are the people Trump needs around him to carry out some of his extreme agenda items. In 4 years, they'll just vote for which ever person yells louder about exaggerated issues. It will just be harder for the incumbent party to separate themselves from the mess he's going to create. I expect that the dems will sweep back all branches in 2028 as long as they go through a rigorous primary to nominate a strong candidate and SCOTUS doesn't uphold some new exception that fucks up things. 

The first chance to take back the House is in 2026, not 2028. Trump made headway with people who don't vote regularly. A lot of those people will not even be aware that every seat in the House is up for election in 2026. Republicans have 50.74 percent of the aggregate 2024 House vote at present. The party of the incumbent president typically faces major headwinds in the midterm election, and they don't have a large majority they are starting from.

All they have to do is run ads that Democrats fight for men who cosplay their sexual fantasies and dress and pretend to be women so they can hang out legally in women’s restrooms and they will never hold a majority again. 

They ran those ads this year and still did not get 50 percent of the presidential vote. Good luck trying that approach after two years of the Trump shit show reminds the low-information people why they voted him out the first time, and after the return of sky-high inflation thanks to tariffs.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 
We just lived through the sky-highest inflation of our lifetime!

I don't know how old you are, but I'm old enough for this statement not to be true (and I suspect you are, too). Anyway, my post acknowledges that there was sky-high inflation during the Biden term. The point is that many voters do not understand the macroeconomic reasons why inflation soared. They just blamed the sitting administration for it regardless of the extent to which it was the result of that administration's policies. And if inflation soars again in the next four years, they will do the same thing (even though the right-wing media sphere will be certain either to ignore the issue or twist themselves in knots to explain it away-- prepare for the argument that five-percent inflation in 2026 is somehow better than 2.3-percent inflation in 2024).

But still better than the 9% in 22 and 23.

Open to any of the maga supporters who occasionally visit here. 
 

Economically, why would you vote for trump?
(Assuming your income is under $360,000. If it's greater, congrats!)

Without a doubt, his 2017 tax cuts benefitted the wealthiest . And his current tax plan obviously will repeat that:









And we can even see the long term impact of republican supply side tax cuts favoring the wealthy. It should be very obvious in this chart when Reaganomics began:






And....if we can keep this to provable facts and evidence please, and not political rhetoric 

Here you go teske, the charts referenced

Him & Sheckster are above the 400k earner’s they love his tax plan! Fuck the lower class they couldn’t give two shits that a single person earning under 75k will have to pay more in taxes than a millionaire! It’s disgusting and there’s plenty of fools who are lower earners that will be asking why are my taxes going up? For my part I’ll help my son & daughter pay the added taxes 

teskeinc

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Hawk123

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

Gern Blansten

2023

lol...Mexico says "I'll see your tariff and raise you a tariff"

pjhawks

Asterisk on the Street said:

Gern Blansten said:

Name this band...

Deranged Fiction

Poo Poo Dolls

The Ho Hoes 

OnWis97

The field

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

When you see the entire thing as a a red vs blue sporting event and you win, the game is over. You spike the ball and prepare for the next game (mid-term elections or 2028 depending on how hard-core your fandom is).

HughFreakingDillon

2024

OnWis97 said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

When you see the entire thing as a a red vs blue sporting event and you win, the game is over. You spike the ball and prepare for the next game (mid-term elections or 2028 depending on how hard-core your fandom is).

no no no, you've got it all wrong. he's an "independent". hahaha

Poncier

2023

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

But he's owning the libs!
It's what you do in your mom's basement while waiting for the meatloaf.

brianlux

2023

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

It's all about getting attention, and too many people here (me included, at times, but no more) keep giving it to him. 

Wash, rinse, repeat.

I find most of your posts are interesting, thoughtful, and worth ready, Hawk, so please don't take what I say here as a put down because I'm as guilty as anyone, but regarding trolls, just ignore the trolls. 

OK, I'd better skedaddle before I get in trouble, haha!  Back to the music section I go!

Halifax2TheMax

2023

Poncier said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

But he's owning the libs!
It's what you do in your mom's basement while waiting for the meatloaf.

Does the Meatloaf come with a few pitchers of beer?

Bentleyspop

Poncier said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

But he's owning the libs!
It's what you do in your mom's basement while waiting for the meatloaf.

Owning libs is their raison d'tre

Merkin Baller

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

this person was recently suspended here for making fun of people with special needs. 

Good luck to anyone trying to have a good faith conversation with them. 

teskeinc

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

A dose of reality to this fantasyland.

Hawk123

teskeinc said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

A dose of reality to this fantasyland.

Ok. Sorry to hear your reality is making fun of special needs people and women crying.  

Poncier

2023

teskeinc

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

A dose of reality to this fantasyland.

Ok. Sorry to hear your reality is making fun of special needs people and women crying.  

https://www.instagram.com/share/_nrA6VrRi

No more joy

HughFreakingDillon

2024

teskeinc said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

Hawk123 said:

teskeinc said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15cXekib3s/?mibextid=UalRPS

Honest question, what’s your end game here? All of your posts, on a left leaning bands message board, are bashing anything related to democrats and it’s been mostly videos insulting women who are crying. 

It’s a good community and you’re contributing nothing but negativity to it. 

A dose of reality to this fantasyland.

Ok. Sorry to hear your reality is making fun of special needs people and women crying.  

https://www.instagram.com/share/_nrA6VrRi

No more joy

no storming the capitol. 

Gern Blansten

2023

Are Haitians still eating peoples animals? Or did the caravan pick all of them up so they could illegally cross the border again?