---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

Halifax2TheMax

2023

Gern Blansten said:

Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...

There’s no truth to the rumour that I hosted any of the attendees.

battle1

Gern Blansten said:

Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...

I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

Gern Blansten

2023

battle1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...

I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

As I call her? That's her fucking name.

And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.

mickeyrat

Gern Blansten said:

battle1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...

I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

As I call her? That's her fucking name.

And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.

Gern Blansten said:

battle1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...

I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

As I call her? That's her fucking name.

And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.

not a newsperson. talking head with a tv oped show.

battle1

Gern Blansten said:

battle1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...

I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

As I call her? That's her fucking name.

And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.

Well the last name basis indicates maybe a little too close to the circus for my taste.

Yes, you focused on "Ingraham", and missed the point.  Democracy works just fine.  

I wasn't saying you created propaganda.  You missed that point too.  

OnWis97

The field

Ibattle1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

battle1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...

I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

As I call her? That's her fucking name.

And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.

Well the last name basis indicates maybe a little too close to the circus for my taste.

Yes, you focused on "Ingraham", and missed the point.  Democracy works just fine.  

I wasn't saying you created propaganda.  You missed that point too.  

These talking heads have influence. I'm not sure what her specific influence is as vs. all the others, but if she's a right-wing pundit I've heard of it's more than zero.

I also suspect this is somewhat reflective of the way not only "regular" MAGA people think but the executive branch if not the legislative branch. "Undermining President Trump." If you don't think there's  significant loyalty to Trump over America (it's why they say "America First" so often), I don't know what to tell you. They all think people like Mitt Romney are traitors. And as stupid as it was for Harris to use Liz Freaking Cheney to try to win votes (LOL) it was frightening that a conservative stalwart got primaried simply for not showing 100% MAGA/Trump loyalty.

As for the bold, I hope you're right at least to the extent it worked well in the 45th term. I would love to be wrong (and I'm a known pessimist but many not-so-pessimistic people are nervous too). But I think it's in grave danger. Under 47 we're going to have the most party-loyal federal court system in US history. His cabinet is now 100% Trump devotees (correcting the "mistake" he made last time). He's got a co-president who's apparently going to throw money at primaries of anyone showing disloyalty. I want to be wrong but there's reason to be nervous. Oh, and a VP who was on the stolen election bandwagon; I wonder if he'd ever certifiy a presidential election for a Democrat. The punditization of the cabinet is at best shaping up for ineffectiveness if not intentionally bringing it down from the inside.

This doesn't mean I'm predicting concentration camps. It's not going to look just like other terrible regimes. But there's a real chance the Republic is on the ropes right now. And hearing famous pundits demand for loyalty to one person is at best concerning.

Gern Blansten

2023

I remember arguing with some of my old Ohio high school friends about trump in 2016. I kept saying "you voted for McCain and Romney right? Neither of those guys support trump...does that bother you?" and no, it didn't bother them a bit.

It's a fucking cult.

Gern Blansten

2023

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-farm-groups-want-trump-spare-their-workers-deportation-2024-11-25/

'WE NEED THE CERTAINTY'

Farmers have a legal option for hiring labor with the H-2A visa program, which allows employers to bring in an unlimited number of seasonal workers if they can show there are not enough U.S. workers willing, qualified and available to do the job.

The program has grown over time, with 378,000 H-2A positions certified by the Labor Department in 2023, three times more than in 2014, according to agency data.

But that figure is only about 20% of the nation's farm workers, according to the USDA. Many farmers say they cannot afford the visa's wage and housing requirements. Others have year-round labor needs that rule out the seasonal visas.

Farmers and workers would benefit from expanded legal pathways for agricultural laborers, said John Walt Boatright, director of government affairs at the American Farm Bureau Federation, a farmer lobby group.

"We need the certainty, reliability and affordability of a workforce program and programs that are going to allow us to continue to deliver food from the farm to the table,” said John Hollay, director of government relations at the International Fresh Produce Association, which represents produce farmers.

For decades, farm and worker groups have attempted to pass immigration reform that would enable more agricultural workers to stay in the U.S., but the legislation has failed so far.

The risk of enforcement against farms is likely low because of the necessity of the workers, said Leon Fresco, an immigration attorney at Holland & Knight.

"There are some very significant business interests that obviously want agricultural labor and need it," he said.

But for farmworkers, the fear of enforcement can create chronic stress, said Mary Jo Dudley, director of the Cornell Farmworker Program, which is training workers to know their rights if confronted by immigration officials.

If there are again raids on meatpacking plants, immigration enforcement should take precautions to avoid detaining workers in the country legally, said Marc Perrone, international president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union, which represents some meatpacking workers.

Edgar Franks, a former farmworker and political director at Familias Unidas por la Justicia, a worker union in Washington state, said the group is seeing new energy from workers to organize.

"The anxiety and fear is real. But if we're together, there’s a better chance for us to fight back," he said.

Yeah well you shouldn't have voted for the orange piece of shit...

battle1

OnWis97 said:

Ibattle1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

battle1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Here we have Ingraham calling out a GOP Senator for doing his job...

I would focus more on Patriot Mike Rounds and less on "Ingraham", as you call her.  Ignore the circus.  Democracy isn't being taken away, that whole notion is exhausting and completely ridiculous.  No matter how many threads someone creates to drum up fear and propaganda, it still doesn't make it true.

As I call her? That's her fucking name.

And no, I'll focus on the oddity of a newsperson (supposedly) doing trump's dirty work.

Her statement happened. She posted it on social media. I'm not creating propaganda.

Well the last name basis indicates maybe a little too close to the circus for my taste.

Yes, you focused on "Ingraham", and missed the point.  Democracy works just fine.  

I wasn't saying you created propaganda.  You missed that point too.  

These talking heads have influence. I'm not sure what her specific influence is as vs. all the others, but if she's a right-wing pundit I've heard of it's more than zero.

I also suspect this is somewhat reflective of the way not only "regular" MAGA people think but the executive branch if not the legislative branch. "Undermining President Trump." If you don't think there's  significant loyalty to Trump over America (it's why they say "America First" so often), I don't know what to tell you. They all think people like Mitt Romney are traitors. And as stupid as it was for Harris to use Liz Freaking Cheney to try to win votes (LOL) it was frightening that a conservative stalwart got primaried simply for not showing 100% MAGA/Trump loyalty.

As for the bold, I hope you're right at least to the extent it worked well in the 45th term. I would love to be wrong (and I'm a known pessimist but many not-so-pessimistic people are nervous too). But I think it's in grave danger. Under 47 we're going to have the most party-loyal federal court system in US history. His cabinet is now 100% Trump devotees (correcting the "mistake" he made last time). He's got a co-president who's apparently going to throw money at primaries of anyone showing disloyalty. I want to be wrong but there's reason to be nervous. Oh, and a VP who was on the stolen election bandwagon; I wonder if he'd ever certifiy a presidential election for a Democrat. The punditization of the cabinet is at best shaping up for ineffectiveness if not intentionally bringing it down from the inside.

This doesn't mean I'm predicting concentration camps. It's not going to look just like other terrible regimes. But there's a real chance the Republic is on the ropes right now. And hearing famous pundits demand for loyalty to one person is at best concerning.

I'm not concerned with famous pundits at all.  That's where we differ.  I do not believe the "Republic is on the ropes" , or is in "grave danger."  
That type of language is dangerous. 

"Apparently"..  "I wonder."..  Do you see you are afraid of something that isn't happening?  

brianlux

2023

It's no wonder some of the most reasonable people here have either bailed on AMT or seldom post here any more.

The Pearl Jam community deserves better than this.  For my part, I'll offer this apology: I'm sorry for having been a part of this rat's nest and any contribution I have made that has degraded it.  At the same time, my thinking is that AMT should really just go away.  I mean, really, what the point?

OnWis97

The field

I've never been hit by a car, either but I'm still nervous when crossing a busy street.

He's not in office yet; of course its not happening. But a 200-year old document and norms aren't what they used to be.

You discredited "apparently" and "I wonder" but you missed a couple "party-loyal courts," "100% Trump devotees," "significant loyal to Trump over America." These things were crazy, too. At least they were if everything's OK.

Poncier

2023

Gern Blansten said:

teskeinc said:

Big news for Germ!

https://www.facebook.com/share/15MNHZdW62/?mibextid=WC7FNe

Still tough to beat that $7 box at TBell but McD's knows it has to fight for those dollars. The days of a hot economy where people will pay $10 for a shitburger lunch are over. Competition forces its hand yet again.

Look at what you can get at Applebee's for $10...they are going after Chik-fil-A

That $7 Taco Bell box is a hell of a bargain.

HughFreakingDillon

2024

aren't most of you people around the same age as me (50)? how can you eat that shit without feeling absolute dog shit? haha

Gern Blansten

2023

HughFreakingDillon said:

aren't most of you people around the same age as me (50)? how can you eat that shit without feeling absolute dog shit? haha

I really don't eat it often...I'm just amazed by the shit TBell gives you for $7. You even get some chips and nacho cheese for fucksake

(I've never bought the $7 deal...just looks good...I'm ok with TB food in general)

OnWis97

The field

HughFreakingDillon said:

aren't most of you people around the same age as me (50)? how can you eat that shit without feeling absolute dog shit? haha

It's a gift. And a curse.

Just turned 50. I haven't the worst of the worst fast food in years. But when I did, it seldom made me feel bad. I honestly think I could to knock down three Taco Bell items for lunch at noon, feel full for a bit and be ready for full dinner by 5.

teskeinc

brianlux said:

It's no wonder some of the most reasonable people here have either bailed on AMT or seldom post here any more.

The Pearl Jam community deserves better than this.  For my part, I'll offer this apology: I'm sorry for having been a part of this rat's nest and any contribution I have made that has degraded it.  At the same time, my thinking is that AMT should really just go away.  I mean, really, what the point?

Virtue signal

Poncier

2023

HughFreakingDillon said:

aren't most of you people around the same age as me (50)? how can you eat that shit without feeling absolute dog shit? haha

On the road a lot for work so fast food is a necessary evil at times. And Taco Bell has always been a favorite in the fast food world.

mickeyrat

unsure how this is even a question. take it as a given.

https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3lbsm4uzh7k25

mickeyrat

love it.

https://www.threads.net/@groguspeaknyc2/post/DCzpOXZpt9s?xmt=AQGzc8bYg3kPWpRNGfasoUU4gtDdmYwexDnS2h9k3gfu4Q

mickeyrat

he'll swear in on this and then sell it at auction...

https://www.threads.net/@patriottakes2.0/post/DCzEPFdOgLt?xmt=AQGz3BEc2x8AUXYkyBon_ufpQO9R7HnCzDNMQ4saPQBk2Q