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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,430
    Liberation Day

    cry harder 
    Not one liberal I know is crying.  I also don't know any liberals who attempted an insurrection lol. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,572
    2023
    When people show me who they are, I believe them.

    And we were told that it couldn’t happen here and that the Nazi comparisons were inappropriate and an overreaction.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,556
    2024
    Liberation Day

    cry harder 
    Trump is the biggest whiner politics has ever seen. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,710
    At least we no longer have a president who’s in cognitive decline. Good job everyone. https://x.com/atrupar/status/1881486423791943977?s=46&t=8gcgOb63bxt_SN15MkuwYg

  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,901
    When people show me who they are, I believe them.

    And we were told that it couldn’t happen here and that the Nazi comparisons were inappropriate and an overreaction.
    Here's both of them.

    https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1881433327779168614?t=MzPEQKvpbudRKrYMDEeQ1A&s=19

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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,497
    2023
    The Gulf of America!!!
    All our problems are solved. 
    We are saved.



    What a fucking disgrace.
    4 years of this coocoo stuff.
    There is some sort of comedic aspect of this stupidity.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,556
    2024
    He’s rambling like your drunk
    uncle at thanksgiving again. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,961
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    DE4173 said:
    And get ready for the media response of “Biden made controversial pardons, too”
    Well, he did. I mean everyone is just acting like Biden has no choice, when he does. For all the talk of Trump doing this at the end of his first term, it's Biden who did it and dems who initially pursued charges against Trump. All he did is provide all the MAGA supporters confirmation bias in advance. Whatever, dems keep crying wolf and shoiting themselves in the foot. Meanwhile they continue to slip in severally historically toss up states. Florida and Ohio have fallen out of reach and it won't be long before PA, MI and WI will be the same. Maybe it will swing back with the right candidate, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. 
    In January 2005, did you see a black Democrat winning Indiana in 2008? In January 2013, did you see the star of TV's The Apprentice winning the presidency in 2016? Predicting the future is a sucker's game, especially with an electorate that has not given more than 53.1 percent to any presidential candidate in 40 years. And that 53-percenter was sixteen years ago.

    With respect to "crying wolf," Trump actually did try to steal the election. He's on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to win the state. He signed off on submitting fake slates of electors in multiple states. He actually took those confidential documents and then continually obstructed the government's efforts to retrieve them. Just because a bunch of unethical, amoral fellow travelers in his party decided that the rule of law doesn't apply to him, it doesn't change the fact that he committed multiple crimes. Any objective person should be able to see this.
    I agree with what you're saying. It's just ridiculous that so many voted for the worst person possible and can't see their hypocrisy. And also, while there is no comparison to the things Trump has done, and will do, that doesn't mean Dems get a pass just because some piece of shit gets away with being a con man. It's just FUBAR.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,556
    2024
    It seems hard for some to understand that biden never would have had to take the extraordinary steps he took if it weren’t for the threats of the incoming administration. It’s absurd to blame someone from using the power they have to protect people from harassment at the highest level that could literally ruin their lives. He literally called many traitors to their country who should be executed. But, please, do go on about dem hypocrisy. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,207
    He’s rambling like your drunk
    uncle at thanksgiving again. 
    Had to turn it off and play Vitalogy on blu ray
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,913
    2023
    Milleys portrait already taken down at the pentagon... How fucking third grade is that? 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,961
    It seems hard for some to understand that biden never would have had to take the extraordinary steps he took if it weren’t for the threats of the incoming administration. It’s absurd to blame someone from using the power they have to protect people from harassment at the highest level that could literally ruin their lives. He literally called many traitors to their country who should be executed. But, please, do go on about dem hypocrisy. 
    Justifications are for someone trying to defend unprecedented behavior. Biden’s actions are in no way illegal like Trump's were, and also, still hypocritical after dems whined when they thought Trump was going to preemptively pardon people during his term. He didn't and faced prosecution, albeit unsuccessful in some cases due to outside factors.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,556
    2024
    tbergs said:
    It seems hard for some to understand that biden never would have had to take the extraordinary steps he took if it weren’t for the threats of the incoming administration. It’s absurd to blame someone from using the power they have to protect people from harassment at the highest level that could literally ruin their lives. He literally called many traitors to their country who should be executed. But, please, do go on about dem hypocrisy. 
    Justifications are for someone trying to defend unprecedented behavior. Biden’s actions are in no way illegal like Trump's were, and also, still hypocritical after dems whined when they thought Trump was going to preemptively pardon people during his term. He didn't and faced prosecution, albeit unsuccessful in some cases due to outside factors.
    But you are treating the two situations like they are the same. Not even close. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,018
    Haha liberals cry! MAGA is about law and order and that’s why this guy is getting pardoned 


  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,497
    2023
    No reason to pretend any longer.
    These people are animals.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,665
    tbergs said:
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    DE4173 said:
    And get ready for the media response of “Biden made controversial pardons, too”
    Well, he did. I mean everyone is just acting like Biden has no choice, when he does. For all the talk of Trump doing this at the end of his first term, it's Biden who did it and dems who initially pursued charges against Trump. All he did is provide all the MAGA supporters confirmation bias in advance. Whatever, dems keep crying wolf and shoiting themselves in the foot. Meanwhile they continue to slip in severally historically toss up states. Florida and Ohio have fallen out of reach and it won't be long before PA, MI and WI will be the same. Maybe it will swing back with the right candidate, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. 
    In January 2005, did you see a black Democrat winning Indiana in 2008? In January 2013, did you see the star of TV's The Apprentice winning the presidency in 2016? Predicting the future is a sucker's game, especially with an electorate that has not given more than 53.1 percent to any presidential candidate in 40 years. And that 53-percenter was sixteen years ago.

    With respect to "crying wolf," Trump actually did try to steal the election. He's on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to win the state. He signed off on submitting fake slates of electors in multiple states. He actually took those confidential documents and then continually obstructed the government's efforts to retrieve them. Just because a bunch of unethical, amoral fellow travelers in his party decided that the rule of law doesn't apply to him, it doesn't change the fact that he committed multiple crimes. Any objective person should be able to see this.
    I agree with what you're saying. It's just ridiculous that so many voted for the worst person possible and can't see their hypocrisy. And also, while there is no comparison to the things Trump has done, and will do, that doesn't mean Dems get a pass just because some piece of shit gets away with being a con man. It's just FUBAR.
    They don't get a pass, but I don't pretend that Biden's pardons, which I think were the wrong thing to do, are equivalent to Trump's crimes.

    And any argument about equivalency with respect to pardons specifically is out the window now that Trump has pardoned a bunch of violent people who attacked the Capitol, including those who assaulted police officers.

    My brother is former NYPD and there had never been a shooting of an unarmed black person by police where he didn't argue that no one can judge an officer because no one knows exactly what the officer was feeling and seeing in the moment they made the decision to pull the trigger. This same brother complained to me two weeks ago that the problem in this country is that no one is held accountable for their actions anymore, citing his belief that Black Lives Matter protesters were not punished for their acts of disorder and violence after the death of George Floyd. When I mentioned that this was an odd complaint to hear from a Trump voter in light of Trump's promise to pardon the January 6 convicts who assaulted police officers, he went into a rant about how the guy who shot Ashli Babbitt was a bad cop and everybody knows it. I realized he's so far down the rabbit hole that he's a lost cause. I can only imagine what my brother would have felt was justified if a BLM protester was climbing through a smashed window as part of a mob breaching the Capitol. It's a disgrace.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,267
    2025
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    DE4173 said:
    And get ready for the media response of “Biden made controversial pardons, too”
    Well, he did. I mean everyone is just acting like Biden has no choice, when he does. For all the talk of Trump doing this at the end of his first term, it's Biden who did it and dems who initially pursued charges against Trump. All he did is provide all the MAGA supporters confirmation bias in advance. Whatever, dems keep crying wolf and shoiting themselves in the foot. Meanwhile they continue to slip in severally historically toss up states. Florida and Ohio have fallen out of reach and it won't be long before PA, MI and WI will be the same. Maybe it will swing back with the right candidate, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. 
    In January 2005, did you see a black Democrat winning Indiana in 2008? In January 2013, did you see the star of TV's The Apprentice winning the presidency in 2016? Predicting the future is a sucker's game, especially with an electorate that has not given more than 53.1 percent to any presidential candidate in 40 years. And that 53-percenter was sixteen years ago.

    With respect to "crying wolf," Trump actually did try to steal the election. He's on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to win the state. He signed off on submitting fake slates of electors in multiple states. He actually took those confidential documents and then continually obstructed the government's efforts to retrieve them. Just because a bunch of unethical, amoral fellow travelers in his party decided that the rule of law doesn't apply to him, it doesn't change the fact that he committed multiple crimes. Any objective person should be able to see this.
    I agree with what you're saying. It's just ridiculous that so many voted for the worst person possible and can't see their hypocrisy. And also, while there is no comparison to the things Trump has done, and will do, that doesn't mean Dems get a pass just because some piece of shit gets away with being a con man. It's just FUBAR.
    They don't get a pass, but I don't pretend that Biden's pardons, which I think were the wrong thing to do, are equivalent to Trump's crimes.

    And any argument about equivalency with respect to pardons specifically is out the window now that Trump has pardoned a bunch of violent people who attacked the Capitol, including those who assaulted police officers.

    My brother is former NYPD and there had never been a shooting of an unarmed black person by police where he didn't argue that no one can judge an officer because no one knows exactly what the officer was feeling and seeing in the moment they made the decision to pull the trigger. This same brother complained to me two weeks ago that the problem in this country is that no one is held accountable for their actions anymore, citing his belief that Black Lives Matter protesters were not punished for their acts of disorder and violence after the death of George Floyd. When I mentioned that this was an odd complaint to hear from a Trump voter in light of Trump's promise to pardon the January 6 convicts who assaulted police officers, he went into a rant about how the guy who shot Ashli Babbitt was a bad cop and everybody knows it. I realized he's so far down the rabbit hole that he's a lost cause. I can only imagine what my brother would have felt was justified if a BLM protester was climbing through a smashed window as part of a mob breaching the Capitol. It's a disgrace.
    I keep it cordial with the MAGA faction of my family meaning I just talk text my brother about the care of our father that’s it nothing else, my brother in law I don’t communicate with at all I don’t need too I just talk to my sister if I need anything but again it’s just about the care of our father. 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,834
    tbergs said:
    It seems hard for some to understand that biden never would have had to take the extraordinary steps he took if it weren’t for the threats of the incoming administration. It’s absurd to blame someone from using the power they have to protect people from harassment at the highest level that could literally ruin their lives. He literally called many traitors to their country who should be executed. But, please, do go on about dem hypocrisy. 
    Justifications are for someone trying to defend unprecedented behavior. Biden’s actions are in no way illegal like Trump's were, and also, still hypocritical after dems whined when they thought Trump was going to preemptively pardon people during his term. He didn't and faced prosecution, albeit unsuccessful in some cases due to outside factors.
    The misinformation in this comment is quite honestly, disgusting.

    Biden's pardons of the January 6th committee is in no way shape or form preemptive.

    These people were specifically threatened multiple times by a man who used language like "the enemy within"

    Congratulations to you for empowering the Maga movement by entrusting their misinformation.

    The current president has put recent violent criminals on the street.

    There is no comparison to any pardon action ever taken by a Democratic president 

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,913
    2023
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    DE4173 said:
    And get ready for the media response of “Biden made controversial pardons, too”
    Well, he did. I mean everyone is just acting like Biden has no choice, when he does. For all the talk of Trump doing this at the end of his first term, it's Biden who did it and dems who initially pursued charges against Trump. All he did is provide all the MAGA supporters confirmation bias in advance. Whatever, dems keep crying wolf and shoiting themselves in the foot. Meanwhile they continue to slip in severally historically toss up states. Florida and Ohio have fallen out of reach and it won't be long before PA, MI and WI will be the same. Maybe it will swing back with the right candidate, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. 
    In January 2005, did you see a black Democrat winning Indiana in 2008? In January 2013, did you see the star of TV's The Apprentice winning the presidency in 2016? Predicting the future is a sucker's game, especially with an electorate that has not given more than 53.1 percent to any presidential candidate in 40 years. And that 53-percenter was sixteen years ago.

    With respect to "crying wolf," Trump actually did try to steal the election. He's on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to win the state. He signed off on submitting fake slates of electors in multiple states. He actually took those confidential documents and then continually obstructed the government's efforts to retrieve them. Just because a bunch of unethical, amoral fellow travelers in his party decided that the rule of law doesn't apply to him, it doesn't change the fact that he committed multiple crimes. Any objective person should be able to see this.
    I agree with what you're saying. It's just ridiculous that so many voted for the worst person possible and can't see their hypocrisy. And also, while there is no comparison to the things Trump has done, and will do, that doesn't mean Dems get a pass just because some piece of shit gets away with being a con man. It's just FUBAR.
    They don't get a pass, but I don't pretend that Biden's pardons, which I think were the wrong thing to do, are equivalent to Trump's crimes.

    And any argument about equivalency with respect to pardons specifically is out the window now that Trump has pardoned a bunch of violent people who attacked the Capitol, including those who assaulted police officers.

    My brother is former NYPD and there had never been a shooting of an unarmed black person by police where he didn't argue that no one can judge an officer because no one knows exactly what the officer was feeling and seeing in the moment they made the decision to pull the trigger. This same brother complained to me two weeks ago that the problem in this country is that no one is held accountable for their actions anymore, citing his belief that Black Lives Matter protesters were not punished for their acts of disorder and violence after the death of George Floyd. When I mentioned that this was an odd complaint to hear from a Trump voter in light of Trump's promise to pardon the January 6 convicts who assaulted police officers, he went into a rant about how the guy who shot Ashli Babbitt was a bad cop and everybody knows it. I realized he's so far down the rabbit hole that he's a lost cause. I can only imagine what my brother would have felt was justified if a BLM protester was climbing through a smashed window as part of a mob breaching the Capitol. It's a disgrace.
    I keep it cordial with the MAGA faction of my family meaning I just talk text my brother about the care of our father that’s it nothing else, my brother in law I don’t communicate with at all I don’t need too I just talk to my sister if I need anything but again it’s just about the care of our father. 
    I have the same relationship with my BIL. Things changed four years ago when trump lost. My BIL and SIL had come over for one of my daughter's graduation parties and I called him out for saying stupid shit. Ever since then he hasn't been the same. We're still friendly when we see each other but he does everything he can to get away from us as soon as he can. 

    That's fine with me. I've got enough stupid in my life just processing GOP bullshit. I don't need a dumbass magat polluting my brain.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,267
    2025
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    DE4173 said:
    And get ready for the media response of “Biden made controversial pardons, too”
    Well, he did. I mean everyone is just acting like Biden has no choice, when he does. For all the talk of Trump doing this at the end of his first term, it's Biden who did it and dems who initially pursued charges against Trump. All he did is provide all the MAGA supporters confirmation bias in advance. Whatever, dems keep crying wolf and shoiting themselves in the foot. Meanwhile they continue to slip in severally historically toss up states. Florida and Ohio have fallen out of reach and it won't be long before PA, MI and WI will be the same. Maybe it will swing back with the right candidate, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. 
    In January 2005, did you see a black Democrat winning Indiana in 2008? In January 2013, did you see the star of TV's The Apprentice winning the presidency in 2016? Predicting the future is a sucker's game, especially with an electorate that has not given more than 53.1 percent to any presidential candidate in 40 years. And that 53-percenter was sixteen years ago.

    With respect to "crying wolf," Trump actually did try to steal the election. He's on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to win the state. He signed off on submitting fake slates of electors in multiple states. He actually took those confidential documents and then continually obstructed the government's efforts to retrieve them. Just because a bunch of unethical, amoral fellow travelers in his party decided that the rule of law doesn't apply to him, it doesn't change the fact that he committed multiple crimes. Any objective person should be able to see this.
    I agree with what you're saying. It's just ridiculous that so many voted for the worst person possible and can't see their hypocrisy. And also, while there is no comparison to the things Trump has done, and will do, that doesn't mean Dems get a pass just because some piece of shit gets away with being a con man. It's just FUBAR.
    They don't get a pass, but I don't pretend that Biden's pardons, which I think were the wrong thing to do, are equivalent to Trump's crimes.

    And any argument about equivalency with respect to pardons specifically is out the window now that Trump has pardoned a bunch of violent people who attacked the Capitol, including those who assaulted police officers.

    My brother is former NYPD and there had never been a shooting of an unarmed black person by police where he didn't argue that no one can judge an officer because no one knows exactly what the officer was feeling and seeing in the moment they made the decision to pull the trigger. This same brother complained to me two weeks ago that the problem in this country is that no one is held accountable for their actions anymore, citing his belief that Black Lives Matter protesters were not punished for their acts of disorder and violence after the death of George Floyd. When I mentioned that this was an odd complaint to hear from a Trump voter in light of Trump's promise to pardon the January 6 convicts who assaulted police officers, he went into a rant about how the guy who shot Ashli Babbitt was a bad cop and everybody knows it. I realized he's so far down the rabbit hole that he's a lost cause. I can only imagine what my brother would have felt was justified if a BLM protester was climbing through a smashed window as part of a mob breaching the Capitol. It's a disgrace.
    I keep it cordial with the MAGA faction of my family meaning I just talk text my brother about the care of our father that’s it nothing else, my brother in law I don’t communicate with at all I don’t need too I just talk to my sister if I need anything but again it’s just about the care of our father. 
    I have the same relationship with my BIL. Things changed four years ago when trump lost. My BIL and SIL had come over for one of my daughter's graduation parties and I called him out for saying stupid shit. Ever since then he hasn't been the same. We're still friendly when we see each other but he does everything he can to get away from us as soon as he can. 

    That's fine with me. I've got enough stupid in my life just processing GOP bullshit. I don't need a dumbass magat polluting my brain.
    Agreed! 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,913
    2023
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    BF25394 said:
    tbergs said:
    DE4173 said:
    And get ready for the media response of “Biden made controversial pardons, too”
    Well, he did. I mean everyone is just acting like Biden has no choice, when he does. For all the talk of Trump doing this at the end of his first term, it's Biden who did it and dems who initially pursued charges against Trump. All he did is provide all the MAGA supporters confirmation bias in advance. Whatever, dems keep crying wolf and shoiting themselves in the foot. Meanwhile they continue to slip in severally historically toss up states. Florida and Ohio have fallen out of reach and it won't be long before PA, MI and WI will be the same. Maybe it will swing back with the right candidate, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. 
    In January 2005, did you see a black Democrat winning Indiana in 2008? In January 2013, did you see the star of TV's The Apprentice winning the presidency in 2016? Predicting the future is a sucker's game, especially with an electorate that has not given more than 53.1 percent to any presidential candidate in 40 years. And that 53-percenter was sixteen years ago.

    With respect to "crying wolf," Trump actually did try to steal the election. He's on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to win the state. He signed off on submitting fake slates of electors in multiple states. He actually took those confidential documents and then continually obstructed the government's efforts to retrieve them. Just because a bunch of unethical, amoral fellow travelers in his party decided that the rule of law doesn't apply to him, it doesn't change the fact that he committed multiple crimes. Any objective person should be able to see this.
    I agree with what you're saying. It's just ridiculous that so many voted for the worst person possible and can't see their hypocrisy. And also, while there is no comparison to the things Trump has done, and will do, that doesn't mean Dems get a pass just because some piece of shit gets away with being a con man. It's just FUBAR.
    They don't get a pass, but I don't pretend that Biden's pardons, which I think were the wrong thing to do, are equivalent to Trump's crimes.

    And any argument about equivalency with respect to pardons specifically is out the window now that Trump has pardoned a bunch of violent people who attacked the Capitol, including those who assaulted police officers.

    My brother is former NYPD and there had never been a shooting of an unarmed black person by police where he didn't argue that no one can judge an officer because no one knows exactly what the officer was feeling and seeing in the moment they made the decision to pull the trigger. This same brother complained to me two weeks ago that the problem in this country is that no one is held accountable for their actions anymore, citing his belief that Black Lives Matter protesters were not punished for their acts of disorder and violence after the death of George Floyd. When I mentioned that this was an odd complaint to hear from a Trump voter in light of Trump's promise to pardon the January 6 convicts who assaulted police officers, he went into a rant about how the guy who shot Ashli Babbitt was a bad cop and everybody knows it. I realized he's so far down the rabbit hole that he's a lost cause. I can only imagine what my brother would have felt was justified if a BLM protester was climbing through a smashed window as part of a mob breaching the Capitol. It's a disgrace.
    I keep it cordial with the MAGA faction of my family meaning I just talk text my brother about the care of our father that’s it nothing else, my brother in law I don’t communicate with at all I don’t need too I just talk to my sister if I need anything but again it’s just about the care of our father. 
    I have the same relationship with my BIL. Things changed four years ago when trump lost. My BIL and SIL had come over for one of my daughter's graduation parties and I called him out for saying stupid shit. Ever since then he hasn't been the same. We're still friendly when we see each other but he does everything he can to get away from us as soon as he can. 

    That's fine with me. I've got enough stupid in my life just processing GOP bullshit. I don't need a dumbass magat polluting my brain.
    Agreed! 
    This is the BIL that told me that Obama only got elected "because of all the ni**ers". 

    The same BIL that got laid off from his factory job in OH and then semi-retired because he couldn't find decent work and then about four years ago got another decent factory job that he still holds now. But yeah democrats have been real bad for him.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,961
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    It seems hard for some to understand that biden never would have had to take the extraordinary steps he took if it weren’t for the threats of the incoming administration. It’s absurd to blame someone from using the power they have to protect people from harassment at the highest level that could literally ruin their lives. He literally called many traitors to their country who should be executed. But, please, do go on about dem hypocrisy. 
    Justifications are for someone trying to defend unprecedented behavior. Biden’s actions are in no way illegal like Trump's were, and also, still hypocritical after dems whined when they thought Trump was going to preemptively pardon people during his term. He didn't and faced prosecution, albeit unsuccessful in some cases due to outside factors.
    The misinformation in this comment is quite honestly, disgusting.

    Biden's pardons of the January 6th committee is in no way shape or form preemptive.

    These people were specifically threatened multiple times by a man who used language like "the enemy within"

    Congratulations to you for empowering the Maga movement by entrusting their misinformation.

    The current president has put recent violent criminals on the street.

    There is no comparison to any pardon action ever taken by a Democratic president 

    Misinformation? So the pardons aren't preemptive? Go ahead and enlighten me then about my disgusting comment. Unless you want to wordsmith preemptive in this case to hypotheticals that may have occurred so then it would be true, but either way, still preemptive.


    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-issues-pardons-protect-milley-fauci-others-trump-retaliation-statement-2025-01-20/

    I'm not comparing the actions of Trump to Biden. Trump is a pile of shit who has freed violent offenders who tried to overthrow the capitol and Biden still doesn't get a pass just because he didn't do anything overtly as terrible. If all of these people truly think Trump is the end of democracy, then why did they just do the whole dog and pony show yesterday? This peaceful transfer of power narrative is all smoke and mirrors BS. Trump didn't show up 4 years ago and pretend he was a decent person because he's not, but yesterday, the peaceful transition of power was not as it seems. This is a power grab by a conman and his minions who are bankrolled by tech billionaires. That's what is disgusting,  not me still having the audacity to challenge Biden's excess use of power to preemptively pardon family he claims is innocent. Both things can be wrong and still not be equal in scope and breadth.

    If we want democracy to stand, then it should be allowed to play out through the processes set-up, but if we are so disparaged that those processes are corrupted, then none of this will matter anyway and is just stalling the inevitable end result.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,901
    Surprised  it took this long...


  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,267
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    Surprised  it took this long...


    Start erasing history little by little this administration believes that the Constitution is outdated except for the 2A otherwise I can see them trying to rewrite parts of it! Heck they’re trampling it at record pace as it is 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    I wonder how the apologists will explain this one...is the guy calling his mommy telling her that he's giving her his heart?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,207


    I wonder how the apologists will explain this one...is the guy calling his mommy telling her that he's giving her his heart?
    Hmm…let’s see. The FBI plant gave him a hundo to wear it and pose for a picture? 
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 835
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    Surprised  it took this long...


    Probably adding the 28th Amendment🤔

    Probably not
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    As expected...another epic failure
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,961


    I wonder how the apologists will explain this one...is the guy calling his mommy telling her that he's giving her his heart?
    The opposition doesn't care about this and never did. They'll just ask you why Biden pardoned his whole family. Whataboutism is here to stay.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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