---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

gimmesometruth27

2023

HughFreakingDillon said:

Biden actually does better one on one than with a prepared speech, the latter of which he comes off as boring and kind of rambling. He's witty, and can be cold as ice. I fully expect him to trounce Trump, but the right wing media will spin it as Trump slayed Biden. 

or that biden took drugs to help him.

gimmesometruth27

2023

trump would win if debate topics were sharks, windmills, dead birds, and immigrants poisoning blood of the country.

mca47

Odds of Trump saying stuff about Hunter Biden?  I'm almost certain he's going to say something in order to get Joe irritated and get him off his game.

I'm traveling when it's on so I won't be able to watch.

Actually, i just realized, I'm going to be on a plane when it happens.  I bet there are going to be a lot of people watching on the plane and saying shit out loud.  Oh god! 

Gern Blansten

2023

I'm guessing trump will ask him to take a drug test... If he does Biden should demand his actual height and weight.... And a drug test 

Halifax2TheMax

2023

Gern Blansten said:

I'm guessing trump will ask him to take a drug test... If he does Biden should demand his actual height and weight.... And a drug test 

And to release his tax returns and tell the ‘Murican people what the plan is to replace Obamacare and what will happen during his infrastructure week. Then laugh and tell everyone not to worry because none of what POOTWH promises ever happens.

mickeyrat

The Juggler

2023

gimmesometruth27 said:

what are the odds that trump bails on the debate?

See above. As of this morning The Juggler opened it at 25%. I would think we're maybe at 30% right now? 

mickeyrat

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

what are the odds that trump bails on the debate?

See above. As of this morning The Juggler opened it at 25%. I would think we're maybe at 30% right now? 

and be seen as weak and afraid of the senile old bat?

cmon....

BF25394

mca47 said:

Odds of Trump saying stuff about Hunter Biden?  I'm almost certain he's going to say something in order to get Joe irritated and get him off his game.

I'm traveling when it's on so I won't be able to watch.

Actually, i just realized, I'm going to be on a plane when it happens.  I bet there are going to be a lot of people watching on the plane and saying shit out loud.  Oh god! 

Since the Hunter verdict, Trump has avoided the topic. He knows that it undermines his "the system is rigged against him and favors Biden" narrative. Trump even went so far to express sympathy for Hunter's addiction in one interview, referencing his brother drinking himself to death. You know Trump's scared if he's pretending to be compassionate.

The Juggler

2023

mickeyrat said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

what are the odds that trump bails on the debate?

See above. As of this morning The Juggler opened it at 25%. I would think we're maybe at 30% right now? 

and be seen as weak and afraid of the senile old bat?

cmon....

Hey, a 70% chance he attends is pretty good!

HughFreakingDillon

2024

no chance trump bails. he believes this is where he rules, even though he's a fucking nelson muntz. 

The Juggler

2023

HughFreakingDillon said:

no chance trump bails. he believes this is where he rules, even though he's a fucking nelson muntz. 

There's a definitely a chance. I would not bet on it though. 

Gern Blansten

2023

I think they had serious discussions about bailing and decided not to. The CNN host kicking his campaign manager off the air would have given them the "CNN is too biased against me" excuse. 

The Juggler

2023

Gern Blansten said:

I think they had serious discussions about bailing and decided not to. The CNN host kicking his campaign manager off the air would have given them the "CNN is too biased against me" excuse. 

Yeah I was thinking that she was trying to provoke a reaction like that to make their excuse for bailing seem more reasonable.

Gern Blansten

2023

It will be interesting. tRump has been pretty laid back about the debate when asked recently so he will either go with the presidential approach and just do the normal criticisms of policy, etc, or it's all a ruse and he'll just be an idiotic attack dog which is does very well.

tbergs

None of this stuff matters. It's all semantics. I doubt there are any real undecided voters and the outcome of the debate will change nothing. The majority of Trump voters aren't MAGA fiends, but conservatives who want someone in office who will push a conservative agenda. The bullshit that gets played on TV from Trump rallies and interviews is just background noise. It's a charade and just political theatre at this point. You can critique a Trump voter all you want and run circles around them with fact based analysis related to jobs, the economy, crime, border control and gun freedoms all you want, but in the end you pointing out their ignorance changes nothing. At the heart of it,  they don't care and they ignore his sideshow, knowing it's an inconvenient means to the end of getting republican policies and agendas on the table. Whether Trump can actually govern, unlikely, but the people beneath will surely be ready to push things through, as seen with Project 2025.

I despise Trump with a passion, but what is more frustrating to me is the agenda that is on tap by the ultra conservative wackos who will be in positions of power if he is elected, again.

I've never been a huge fan of Joe Biden, but the guy at least cares and is willing to work across the aisle to make legislation happen. Trump and his sycophants seem to only be interested in sticking it to those who don't support them. The fact that an entire state can require the ten commandments be posted in all public schools and state colleges is unbelievable in the 21st century, but here we are. I guess what more should I expect from the party of thoughts and prayers. Say less, do more.

Gern Blansten

2023

tbergs said:

None of this stuff matters. It's all semantics. I doubt there are any real undecided voters and the outcome of the debate will change nothing. The majority of Trump voters aren't MAGA fiends, but conservatives who want someone in office who will push a conservative agenda. The bullshit that gets played on TV from Trump rallies and interviews is just background noise. It's a charade and just political theatre at this point. You can critique a Trump voter all you want and run circles around them with fact based analysis related to jobs, the economy, crime, border control and gun freedoms all you want, but in the end you pointing out their ignorance changes nothing. At the heart of it,  they don't care and they ignore his sideshow, knowing it's an inconvenient means to the end of getting republican policies and agendas on the table. Where Trump can actual govern, unlikely but the people beneath will surely be ready to push things through, as seen with Project 2025.

I despise Trump with a passion, but what is more frustrating to me is the agenda that is on tap by the ultra conservative wackos who will be in positions of power of he is elected, again.

I've never been a huge fan of Joe Biden, but the guy at least cares and is willing to work across the aisle to make legislation happen. Trump and his sycophants seem to only be interested in sticking it to those who don't support them. The fact that the an entire state can require the ten commandments be posted in all public schools and state colleges is unbelievable in the 21st century, but here we are. I guess what more should I expect from the party of thoughts and prayers. Say less, do more.

Agreed.

Honestly the hardcore magats don't give two shits about the GOP agenda. Most of them likely oppose abortion restriction, etc.

They just want to beat the libtards. That's it. They don't care about the amount of debt that tRump will or has added, they don't care that he personally benefits from selling hotel rooms to the secret service. They just want their team to win.

The Juggler

2023

I think this debate might actually matter more than previous election cycles.

Since it will be simulcast on a bunch of networks, the total audience will be massive and for a lot of voters it will be the first time seeing and hearing Trump's voice in years. 

There are undecided voters out there...not many but there are. The election is primarily about those people. 

cincybearcat

The Juggler said:

I think this debate might actually matter more than previous election cycles.

Since it will be simulcast on a bunch of networks, the total audience will be massive and for a lot of voters it will be the first time seeing and hearing Trump's voice in years. 

There are undecided voters out there...not many but there are. The election is primarily about those people. 

Unfortunately, and I have no data, but I feel like the undecided voters are people that went against Trump last election that are unhappy with Biden and/or the liberal/woke agenda.

I still have a hard time understanding someone being able to vote for trump....but I see why people would want to not vote for Biden.  I will be voting for Biden, my 3rd presidential vote that I will absolutely hate making but feel there is no choice.

But I have has numerous conversations with people that I thought would never vote for Trump where they are talking about not being able to vote for Biden so may vote for Trump or not vote.  I have been surprised a number of times with that comment.

The Juggler

2023

cincybearcat said:

The Juggler said:

I think this debate might actually matter more than previous election cycles.

Since it will be simulcast on a bunch of networks, the total audience will be massive and for a lot of voters it will be the first time seeing and hearing Trump's voice in years. 

There are undecided voters out there...not many but there are. The election is primarily about those people. 

Unfortunately, and I have no data, but I feel like the undecided voters are people that went against Trump last election that are unhappy with Biden and/or the liberal/woke agenda.

I still have a hard time understanding someone being able to vote for trump....but I see why people would want to not vote for Biden.  I will be voting for Biden, my 3rd presidential vote that I will absolutely hate making but feel there is no choice.

But I have has numerous conversations with people that I thought would never vote for Trump where they are talking about not being able to vote for Biden so may vote for Trump or not vote.  I have been surprised a number of times with that comment.

You're probably right. Hopefully they will be reminded of how disgusted they were of Trump once they see and hear his voice more often...