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  • 2023
    mrussel1 said:
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    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,794
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
    Connecting it to a journalists murder is where it's no different. 

    There's no dispute that Hunter was paid to be on the board of Burisma and the value he brought was his name and connections.  But that doesn't mean that Joe was on the take. 

    There's no dispute that Kushner received 2bn from MSB for his private equity raise.  But that doesn't mean K was killed for investigating Kushner. 

    That's what I mean by the same mindset. And btw, that money doesn't belong to Kushner.  It's in an investment fund. 
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    I stopped reading at the second “Jared dear boy.” 
    I don't even make it that far anymore.
    Does anyone ? 
    Yes. I like coming in here and getting a good run down on what’s going on for the day. Since the press has dropped the ball on Trump’s corruption in regard to the various connections and outcomes, I like to hear the theories of those in here. 
    Agree with the exception of 2 -Halifax- I think he knows the truth way more than we think and Mickey always posts the truth.  But theories can be interesting as well! 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,577
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
    Connecting it to a journalists murder is where it's no different. 

    There's no dispute that Hunter was paid to be on the board of Burisma and the value he brought was his name and connections.  But that doesn't mean that Joe was on the take. 

    There's no dispute that Kushner received 2bn from MSB for his private equity raise.  But that doesn't mean K was killed for investigating Kushner. 

    That's what I mean by the same mindset. And btw, that money doesn't belong to Kushner.  It's in an investment fund. 
    Agreed... yesterday was the 1st I heard about Kashoggi investigating the Kushner / MSB connection, it sounds a bit far fetched. 
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  • 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
    Connecting it to a journalists murder is where it's no different. 

    There's no dispute that Hunter was paid to be on the board of Burisma and the value he brought was his name and connections.  But that doesn't mean that Joe was on the take. 

    There's no dispute that Kushner received 2bn from MSB for his private equity raise.  But that doesn't mean K was killed for investigating Kushner. 

    That's what I mean by the same mindset. And btw, that money doesn't belong to Kushner.  It's in an investment fund. 
    Do we know the sources of that “investment “ fund, other than the $2B the saudis provided? In fact, what exactly do we know about this “investment” fund? $25M per year guaranteed to Jared Dear Boy, regardless of the fund’s performance, doesn’t concern you?

    Same-same? It’s legal if you do it right out in the open, no worries, business as usual, nothing to see here. But hey, if it’s all on the up and up, why has it been over a year and Jared Dear Boy hasn’t complied with a legal request of congress? Jared Dear Boy didn’t hold the bone saw so it’s fine, everyone. And that WaPo journalist? Just investigating MSB’s eating habits and took offense. No worries, happens all the time.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,794
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
    Connecting it to a journalists murder is where it's no different. 

    There's no dispute that Hunter was paid to be on the board of Burisma and the value he brought was his name and connections.  But that doesn't mean that Joe was on the take. 

    There's no dispute that Kushner received 2bn from MSB for his private equity raise.  But that doesn't mean K was killed for investigating Kushner. 

    That's what I mean by the same mindset. And btw, that money doesn't belong to Kushner.  It's in an investment fund. 
    Do we know the sources of that “investment “ fund, other than the $2B the saudis provided? In fact, what exactly do we know about this “investment” fund? $25M per year guaranteed to Jared Dear Boy, regardless of the fund’s performance, doesn’t concern you?

    Same-same? It’s legal if you do it right out in the open, no worries, business as usual, nothing to see here. But hey, if it’s all on the up and up, why has it been over a year and Jared Dear Boy hasn’t complied with a legal request of congress? Jared Dear Boy didn’t hold the bone saw so it’s fine, everyone. And that WaPo journalist? Just investigating MSB’s eating habits and took offense. No worries, happens all the time.
    So it's guilt by association? You are bringing random,  disconnected events and tying then together.  You have provided no connection between his murder and Kushner other than random tweet. If there is a direct connection,  please share it. 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
    Connecting it to a journalists murder is where it's no different. 

    There's no dispute that Hunter was paid to be on the board of Burisma and the value he brought was his name and connections.  But that doesn't mean that Joe was on the take. 

    There's no dispute that Kushner received 2bn from MSB for his private equity raise.  But that doesn't mean K was killed for investigating Kushner. 

    That's what I mean by the same mindset. And btw, that money doesn't belong to Kushner.  It's in an investment fund. 
    Agreed... yesterday was the 1st I heard about Kashoggi investigating the Kushner / MSB connection, it sounds a bit far fetched. 
    I have no idea whether it's true but I don't think it sounds all that far fetched.
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    “I saved his a**,” President Trump said about the US outcry about Khashoggi’s killing, according to Business Insider, quoting from a copy of Woodward’s book.
    “I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop,” Trump said.

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    edited October 2023
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
    Connecting it to a journalists murder is where it's no different. 

    There's no dispute that Hunter was paid to be on the board of Burisma and the value he brought was his name and connections.  But that doesn't mean that Joe was on the take. 

    There's no dispute that Kushner received 2bn from MSB for his private equity raise.  But that doesn't mean K was killed for investigating Kushner. 

    That's what I mean by the same mindset. And btw, that money doesn't belong to Kushner.  It's in an investment fund. 
    Agreed... yesterday was the 1st I heard about Kashoggi investigating the Kushner / MSB connection, it sounds a bit far fetched. 
    I have no idea whether it's true but I don't think it sounds all that far fetched.
    Hey, anything is possible, but I can't help but think that if Kashoggi was murdered while investigating a connection between Kushner & MBS, we would have heard about it before now. 

    Why would WaPo or anyone else who cared about him keep that quiet?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,292
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    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
    Connecting it to a journalists murder is where it's no different. 

    There's no dispute that Hunter was paid to be on the board of Burisma and the value he brought was his name and connections.  But that doesn't mean that Joe was on the take. 

    There's no dispute that Kushner received 2bn from MSB for his private equity raise.  But that doesn't mean K was killed for investigating Kushner. 

    That's what I mean by the same mindset. And btw, that money doesn't belong to Kushner.  It's in an investment fund. 
    Do we know the sources of that “investment “ fund, other than the $2B the saudis provided? In fact, what exactly do we know about this “investment” fund? $25M per year guaranteed to Jared Dear Boy, regardless of the fund’s performance, doesn’t concern you?

    Same-same? It’s legal if you do it right out in the open, no worries, business as usual, nothing to see here. But hey, if it’s all on the up and up, why has it been over a year and Jared Dear Boy hasn’t complied with a legal request of congress? Jared Dear Boy didn’t hold the bone saw so it’s fine, everyone. And that WaPo journalist? Just investigating MSB’s eating habits and took offense. No worries, happens all the time.
    So it's guilt by association? You are bringing random,  disconnected events and tying then together.  You have provided no connection between his murder and Kushner other than random tweet. If there is a direct connection,  please share it. 
    “Random, disconnected events?” C’mon, man!

    I’m not claiming that Jared Dear Boy killed Kashoggi. I’m suspecting that there was a quid pro quo for classified information on Saudi opposition members and human intelligence assets, who suddenly went dark, in exchange for large sums of money. That’s what Kashoggi was investigating and that the US “official” response to Kashoggi’s murder under POOTWH was “muted” and a guarantee of not affecting US policy toward the Saudis was given, a blessing if you will. That and an exceedingly large military arms sale. Read up on Sexy Rexy’s response to Jared Dear Boy’s “diplomatic” portfolio and responsibilities. Then read up on the intelligence community’s thoughts. It’s all out there and for whatever reason, gee, what could it be, Jared Dear Boy is awful quiet and uncooperative.

    Jack Mack and the Heartattacks are following the money.
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    Maybe the Quid Pro Quo was producing more oil in exchange for the tRump admin looking the other way....they clearly looked the other way based on their comments after the killing.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,794
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  • 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am sure I am missing something obvious from above, but what's MBS?
    He's the Saudi Crown Prince, he is basically running the Kingdom.  But I have never, ever heard that he was investigating some Kushner deal.  I'm not really buying that.  
    Not the Jared Dear Boy deal per se but rather the Saudi monarchy and their corruption and elimination of political opponents and the hypocrisy of it all. A very outspoken critic. One that, like others before him, was eliminated. The rub is he wrote for WaPo and was a US citizen. Something about freedom of the press, human rights, murder, major US ally and the “look”, oil, you know morality?
    Yes I understand the story of K.  But that tweet is pretty bullshit from what I have ever read.  Have you ever read that Kushner was connected in that at all?
    Do you have a plausible explanation for why MBS would give Jared Dear Boy $2B to “invest” on behalf of the Saudi Kingdom, going as far as to override the objections of the wealth fund advisory committee? Can you even come up with any other comparable situation?

    What do you mean by “connected?” In the basement working a hand saw or assuring MBS the US government won’t protest too much nor initiate an investigation?
    If you have an argument to put forth on how the murder of K by MBS was because of some investigation into Jared Kushner by him and WashPo, then put it forth.  And if you want plausible explanations, then I would simply point to the secondary deal of Trump courses hosting LIV events. 
    This is a good place to start and to work backwards on the reporting. What was known at the time versus where things stand today. Jack Mack and the Heartattacks has an ongoing criminal investigation into Mar-I-Lieo and purloined documents. That's the beauty of Special Counsel's, like a land deal can lead to a blue dress, these investigations can lead to a great many things. POOTWH pissed off the wrong people (intelligence community). Think about all of this in the context of that sacred of sacred documents, the US Constitution and never before having a POSPOTUS selling "things" to the highest bidder. At least Ronny Rayguns did it for "Murica and not personal gain (Iran-Contra).

    2023-02-15. JBR to Kushner re Saudi Arabia.fnl_.pdf (house.gov)
    Can you rewrite this in English,  please?

    I'm asking what is the direct connection between K's murder and Jared. What you're alleging is no different than the nonsense that Comer and Jordan keep saying about Biden.
    Really? $2B changing hands is “no different?” Let me know when the Brandon Crime Family’s billions are found, okay?
    Connecting it to a journalists murder is where it's no different. 

    There's no dispute that Hunter was paid to be on the board of Burisma and the value he brought was his name and connections.  But that doesn't mean that Joe was on the take. 

    There's no dispute that Kushner received 2bn from MSB for his private equity raise.  But that doesn't mean K was killed for investigating Kushner. 

    That's what I mean by the same mindset. And btw, that money doesn't belong to Kushner.  It's in an investment fund. 
    Do we know the sources of that “investment “ fund, other than the $2B the saudis provided? In fact, what exactly do we know about this “investment” fund? $25M per year guaranteed to Jared Dear Boy, regardless of the fund’s performance, doesn’t concern you?

    Same-same? It’s legal if you do it right out in the open, no worries, business as usual, nothing to see here. But hey, if it’s all on the up and up, why has it been over a year and Jared Dear Boy hasn’t complied with a legal request of congress? Jared Dear Boy didn’t hold the bone saw so it’s fine, everyone. And that WaPo journalist? Just investigating MSB’s eating habits and took offense. No worries, happens all the time.
    So it's guilt by association? You are bringing random,  disconnected events and tying then together.  You have provided no connection between his murder and Kushner other than random tweet. If there is a direct connection,  please share it. 
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-woodward-i-saved-his-ass-mbs-khashoggi-rage-2020-9

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    Nice to know that you seem to think so little of our nation’s intelligence services and are comfortable with the US gubmint being for sale. Have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?
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    Nice to know that you seem to think so little of our nation’s intelligence services and are comfortable with the US gubmint being for sale. Have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?
    No I haven't.  Please tell me all about it
  • 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Eye roll
    Nice to know that you seem to think so little of our nation’s intelligence services and are comfortable with the US gubmint being for sale. Have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?
    No I haven't.  Please tell me all about it
    Apparently, it’s the same as accepting $2B in blood money with a guaranteed $25M annual salary.
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    mrussel1 said:
    Eye roll
    Nice to know that you seem to think so little of our nation’s intelligence services and are comfortable with the US gubmint being for sale. Have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?
    No I haven't.  Please tell me all about it
    Apparently, it’s the same as accepting $2B in blood money with a guaranteed $25M annual salary.
    That read suspiciously like a normal sentence.  Not sure I can follow it.  There were no Sexy Rexy like statements. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,292
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    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Eye roll
    Nice to know that you seem to think so little of our nation’s intelligence services and are comfortable with the US gubmint being for sale. Have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?
    No I haven't.  Please tell me all about it
    Apparently, it’s the same as accepting $2B in blood money with a guaranteed $25M annual salary.
    That read suspiciously like a normal sentence.  Not sure I can follow it.  There were no Sexy Rexy like statements. 
    I’ve rewritten it for you. Have a read.


    Apparently it’s beautiful, like the same as accepting $2B in hush money as Stormy Weather took from Michael Conehead but with a guaranteed $25M annual salary for no experience like the brilliant Sexy Rexy as head of DOS.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,794
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Eye roll
    Nice to know that you seem to think so little of our nation’s intelligence services and are comfortable with the US gubmint being for sale. Have you heard about Hunter’s laptop?
    No I haven't.  Please tell me all about it
    Apparently, it’s the same as accepting $2B in blood money with a guaranteed $25M annual salary.
    That read suspiciously like a normal sentence.  Not sure I can follow it.  There were no Sexy Rexy like statements. 
    I’ve rewritten it for you. Have a read.


    Apparently it’s beautiful, like the same as accepting $2B in hush money as Stormy Weather took from Michael Conehead but with a guaranteed $25M annual salary for no experience like the brilliant Sexy Rexy as head of DOS.
    Ah, I get it now. 
  • 2023
    People, including repubs in congress, and I know that breaking free of a cult is difficult, need to wake the fuck up.

    Q&A

    James Clapper

    GAZETTE: You served in the U.S. government in intelligence for 55 years under every president since John F. Kennedy, but you’ve said that “hearing Donald Trump ask Russian intelligence to attack his political opponent — in a very specific, direct way — made me fear for our nation.” You don’t seem like someone who is easily rattled. What did you mean?

    CLAPPER: In all that time in intelligence, in one capacity or another, I’ve seen a lot of bad stuff, but never anything to disturb me as much as what I came to understand, comprehend, what the Russians were doing to meddle in the fundamental pillars of our political system. So when [candidate Trump] was exhorting an adversary of ours — which, in my mind, is the primary threat these days — to help him by going and finding allegedly 30,000 missing emails of Hillary Clinton, that to me is unconscionable and inappropriate and unheard of. There’s no time in our history where a president has exhorted an enemy, an adversary, to help him win an election and disparage a political opponent.

    GAZETTE: He later claimed he was joking.

    CLAPPER: He wasn’t joking any more than he was joking that he wants American citizens to behave like North Koreans do for leader Kim Jong-un. He wasn’t joking about that either.

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2018/06/clapper-frets-over-past-damage-present-shortcomings-future-threats-to-us-intelligence/


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  • 2023
    When is enough, enough? Cult gonna cult.

    GAZETTE: You say you were “not surprised” that Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan refused in late summer 2016 to issue a bipartisan public statement on Russia’s election interference. “It seemed they had decided by then that they didn’t care who their nominee was, how he got elected, or what effect having a foreign power influence our election would have on the nation, as long as they won,” you write. As someone who regularly studies people’s actions and motivations, did you or anyone look into why that was?

    CLAPPER: What they cared about was their almighty agenda, which is still the case. And you have to ask, when will Republicans, particularly the Republican leadership, say in response to some additional Trump excess like separating kids from their parents at the border, when will they say, “Enough”? That’s really the issue here. I don’t know. What’s more important to them is their agenda: getting judges appointed, tax cuts that benefit the wealthy, etc., etc.

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2018/06/clapper-frets-over-past-damage-present-shortcomings-future-threats-to-us-intelligence/

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,324
    2024
    a 5 year old article?
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,170
    a 5 year old article?
    What’s changed in the meantime? It’s confirmed over time that there is no “gone too far” for Trump. Every single thing he does and has done is justified by republicans.  
  • 2023
    For those needing a refresher on POOTWH’s corrupt transactional nature, as it relates to dealing with Mohammad Bone Saw, not to be confused with Bone Spurs, and Kashoggi’s murder, dismembering and disappearance. Compare POOTWH and those he surrounded himself with and their behaviour toward and with Putin on the ritz and ask yourself if Jared Dear Boy’s and POOTWH’s changed in how they “dealt” with Mohammad Bone Saw. If you think it did, I’d love to hear your explanation. And I know the source is from a dem hack but facts is the facts, in one nice list.

    http://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties
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  • 2023
    a 5 year old article?
    Of an interview that sheds a lot of light on the current repub front runner for POTUS and anointer of the current speaker of the house.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    2023
    So anyway...lock him up. 
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