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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,290
    2023
    It’s time POOTWH be gagged. He’s used to it.


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,794
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    Maybe next time she'll tell the judge "YOU'RE out of order!"
    Then she'll "strenuously object".
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    NEW YORK — A federal judge threatened to throw Donald Trumpout of court Wednesday after the former president defied an order to keep quiet during writer E. Jean Carroll’s testimony at his defamation trial, which resulted in Trump becoming combative with the jurist.

    U. S. District Court Judge Lewis A. Kaplan addressed Trump after being told for the second time by Carroll’s lawyers that Trump, seated at the defense table, was denigrating Carroll loudly enough for the nine-member jury to have heard it. Trump had already received one warning from Kaplan, an official court order.

    “Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial,” Kaplan said before a mid-day break. While Trump has a right to be there, the judge said, “that right can be forfeited ... if he is disruptive.”

    Trump threw his hands up in an animated show of disapproval.

    “I would love it! I would love it!" he said.

    Kaplan said that Trump appeared unable to control himself.

    “You can’t either!” Trump said.

    Carroll, a writer and advice columnist, told a federal jury on Wednesday that Trump’s attacks on her credibility beginning in 2019,after she publicly accused him of a long-ago sexual assault, continue to harm her professionally and put her in fear for her safety.

    A jury in a separate civil case last year found that Trump sexually abused and defamed Carroll and owed her $5 million in damages. The trial that started Tuesday is focused on whether the former president owes Carroll additional damages for separate comments he made about her.

    Kaplan — who also repeatedly admonished Trump lawyer Alina Habba for failing to follow courtroom procedures — first told the former president to exhibit appropriate trial decorum about 11:45 a.m.

    “I’m just going to ask that Mr. Trump take special care to keep his voice down when conferring with counsel so that the jury does not overhear it,” Kaplan said outside the presence of jurors.

    Testifying for the second time in a year against Trump, Carroll said disparaging comments the former president made about her had damaged her life.

    “I’m here because Donald Trump assaulted me and when I wrote about it he said it never happened,” Carroll said. “He lied and he shattered my reputation.”

    Trump appeared agitated throughout her testimony and he made remarks that could have been heard by the jury, according to Carroll’s attorney Shawn Crowley. He said “these things are false” and “she finally got her memory back,” Crowley told the judge.

    Interruptions of that nature could be seen as poisonous to the jury, which is only supposed to consider evidence and testimony in reaching its verdict.

    Trump, the Republican front-runner in this year’s presidential election, also attended part of the court proceedings Tuesday, before leaving midday to attend a campaign event in New Hampshire.

    Trump has been accused of forcing himself on Carroll in a dressing room in the high-end Bergdorf Goodman department store in Manhattan in 1996. He denies that any encounter occurred and has assailed Carroll as a liar who is seeking fame and money.

    Carroll said her reputation to readers and as a reliable source for relationship advice has been changed because of Trump’s flurry of insults, which has generated sometimes hundreds of harassing and threatening social media messages and emails from Trump supporters daily.

    Previously I was known simply as a journalist and had a column and now I’m known as the ‘liar,’ the ‘fraud’ and the ‘whack job,’ ” Carroll said, citing common Trump refrains relating to her.

    Trump is expected to testify Monday. He did not give testimony at the first trial involving Carroll and he is appealing that verdict.

    Since the second trial began, Kaplan has scolded Habba repeatedly for issues involving courtroom decorum. On Wednesday, he chided her for not standing up to voice an objection and for inappropriately making a third request to postpone the trial because Trump has to attend his mother-in-law’s funeral on Thursday.

    just like trump's entire political career and administration, it is amateur hour in the courtroom as well.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    amateur hour. hope she lawyers him in to losing a billion dollars here.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,290
    2023
    amateur hour. hope she lawyers him in to losing a billion dollars here.
    So, so, so much winning. You sick of winning yet?
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  • JesseMcKJesseMcK Maine Posts: 65
    mickeyrat said:
    JesseMcK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JesseMcK said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JesseMcK said:
    Cards on the table - I despise Trump, but this civil fraud case is stupid, and if he skates the unseriousness of it will be mixed into the larger stew of "everyone against Trump" narrative. I work in finance, including some large scale infrastructure in the past, no bank in their right mind cares a lick at what internally prepared financial statements show. Also to my knowledge he hasn't defaulted and there hasn't been a collateral shortfall (at least since the 80s bankruptcy stuff). The stuff with Stormy Daniels and this are just distractions.

    Jack Smith's case, and the Georgia case are the only ones that matter.

    no skating. already been been guilty of fraud. this is all about penalties.
    There was a pre-trial finding that some fraud has occurred true, but the larger issues are still at play. The trial was not just about setting the level of the fine.

    While it's true that this being a bench trial with a seemingly hostile judge probably precludes him getting off without penalties, my point is - Trump's not going to jail for this. This is a stupid civil trial over GAAP interpretations which may result in a monetary penalty or a suspension of a business license in NY. I don't get the feeling that most people understand this. The consequences are not going to be satisfying or represent justice in any way.

    The other two trials matter. This one is stupid, and political. In my opinion, it makes the people pursuing it look corrupt, and I wish everyone would get out of the way for Jack Smith. If the strategy is to use garbage like this to sap Trump's resources, fine, but we should be honest when our side (me making a presumption about this board's political leaning) are playing dirty.
    I get what you are saying. I'm not sure I agree that it's stupid though. The banks were injured by giving him lower interest rates based on the fraudulent financial statements. I realize that they banks aren't really claiming damages though.


    The banks were injured, but more importantly the state was injured.  If he received interest rates lower than market value based on fraudulent statements, then the bank earned less interest than reasonable.  Less interest income means less in taxes, meaning less in tax revenue for the state.  

    Besides, particularly in NY, the state always has an interest in preventing fraud even among two consenting parties.  Just because the banks don't care, or were complicit, doesn't make it legal under NY law. 
    Haha - I mean come on. Let's not lose our grip here. This is not a serious concern.

    Also I really hope this Fani Willis stuff is not true. The Georgia case is serious. People need to stop fucking up when they go after him. This stuff is so sensitive. Willis and Smith need to be completely above board in their approach on these cases. The evidence speaks for itself.

    replay of debunked bullshit by a defendant, Listen to the Ben Wittes on  jan 11 episode of The Bulwark podcast .
    Fani Willis is not out there denying this happened. Instead she's talking about how flawed she is and how lonely her job is. If she was fucking the guy she hired to run this prosecution, we all might as well move to Canada. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,748
    JesseMcK said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JesseMcK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JesseMcK said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JesseMcK said:
    Cards on the table - I despise Trump, but this civil fraud case is stupid, and if he skates the unseriousness of it will be mixed into the larger stew of "everyone against Trump" narrative. I work in finance, including some large scale infrastructure in the past, no bank in their right mind cares a lick at what internally prepared financial statements show. Also to my knowledge he hasn't defaulted and there hasn't been a collateral shortfall (at least since the 80s bankruptcy stuff). The stuff with Stormy Daniels and this are just distractions.

    Jack Smith's case, and the Georgia case are the only ones that matter.

    no skating. already been been guilty of fraud. this is all about penalties.
    There was a pre-trial finding that some fraud has occurred true, but the larger issues are still at play. The trial was not just about setting the level of the fine.

    While it's true that this being a bench trial with a seemingly hostile judge probably precludes him getting off without penalties, my point is - Trump's not going to jail for this. This is a stupid civil trial over GAAP interpretations which may result in a monetary penalty or a suspension of a business license in NY. I don't get the feeling that most people understand this. The consequences are not going to be satisfying or represent justice in any way.

    The other two trials matter. This one is stupid, and political. In my opinion, it makes the people pursuing it look corrupt, and I wish everyone would get out of the way for Jack Smith. If the strategy is to use garbage like this to sap Trump's resources, fine, but we should be honest when our side (me making a presumption about this board's political leaning) are playing dirty.
    I get what you are saying. I'm not sure I agree that it's stupid though. The banks were injured by giving him lower interest rates based on the fraudulent financial statements. I realize that they banks aren't really claiming damages though.


    The banks were injured, but more importantly the state was injured.  If he received interest rates lower than market value based on fraudulent statements, then the bank earned less interest than reasonable.  Less interest income means less in taxes, meaning less in tax revenue for the state.  

    Besides, particularly in NY, the state always has an interest in preventing fraud even among two consenting parties.  Just because the banks don't care, or were complicit, doesn't make it legal under NY law. 
    Haha - I mean come on. Let's not lose our grip here. This is not a serious concern.

    Also I really hope this Fani Willis stuff is not true. The Georgia case is serious. People need to stop fucking up when they go after him. This stuff is so sensitive. Willis and Smith need to be completely above board in their approach on these cases. The evidence speaks for itself.

    replay of debunked bullshit by a defendant, Listen to the Ben Wittes on  jan 11 episode of The Bulwark podcast .
    Fani Willis is not out there denying this happened. Instead she's talking about how flawed she is and how lonely her job is. If she was fucking the guy she hired to run this prosecution, we all might as well move to Canada. 

    Why, they get it on differently there?

    Seriously, if she is lonely she should be with whoever she wants. However, the prosecutor of the biggest case she will ever try, against one of the most powerful people in the world?

    it’s stunning how people get promoted or elected to big time jobs and have the reasoning skills of a five year old cat.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,290
    2023
    Such a sound legal argument, “we’re going to riot if you rule against us.” 

    Trump lawyers warn Supreme Court of ‘chaos and bedlam’ if states are allowed to bar him from 2024 ballot


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,179
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,955
    Such a sound legal argument, “we’re going to riot if you rule against us.” 

    Trump lawyers warn Supreme Court of ‘chaos and bedlam’ if states are allowed to bar him from 2024 ballot


    Come on, suggesting that his followers would become violent if they didn't get their way. I don't believe it. These are upstanding law abiding members of society we are talking about.
  • JesseMcKJesseMcK Maine Posts: 65
    JesseMcK said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JesseMcK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JesseMcK said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JesseMcK said:
    Cards on the table - I despise Trump, but this civil fraud case is stupid, and if he skates the unseriousness of it will be mixed into the larger stew of "everyone against Trump" narrative. I work in finance, including some large scale infrastructure in the past, no bank in their right mind cares a lick at what internally prepared financial statements show. Also to my knowledge he hasn't defaulted and there hasn't been a collateral shortfall (at least since the 80s bankruptcy stuff). The stuff with Stormy Daniels and this are just distractions.

    Jack Smith's case, and the Georgia case are the only ones that matter.

    no skating. already been been guilty of fraud. this is all about penalties.
    There was a pre-trial finding that some fraud has occurred true, but the larger issues are still at play. The trial was not just about setting the level of the fine.

    While it's true that this being a bench trial with a seemingly hostile judge probably precludes him getting off without penalties, my point is - Trump's not going to jail for this. This is a stupid civil trial over GAAP interpretations which may result in a monetary penalty or a suspension of a business license in NY. I don't get the feeling that most people understand this. The consequences are not going to be satisfying or represent justice in any way.

    The other two trials matter. This one is stupid, and political. In my opinion, it makes the people pursuing it look corrupt, and I wish everyone would get out of the way for Jack Smith. If the strategy is to use garbage like this to sap Trump's resources, fine, but we should be honest when our side (me making a presumption about this board's political leaning) are playing dirty.
    I get what you are saying. I'm not sure I agree that it's stupid though. The banks were injured by giving him lower interest rates based on the fraudulent financial statements. I realize that they banks aren't really claiming damages though.


    The banks were injured, but more importantly the state was injured.  If he received interest rates lower than market value based on fraudulent statements, then the bank earned less interest than reasonable.  Less interest income means less in taxes, meaning less in tax revenue for the state.  

    Besides, particularly in NY, the state always has an interest in preventing fraud even among two consenting parties.  Just because the banks don't care, or were complicit, doesn't make it legal under NY law. 
    Haha - I mean come on. Let's not lose our grip here. This is not a serious concern.

    Also I really hope this Fani Willis stuff is not true. The Georgia case is serious. People need to stop fucking up when they go after him. This stuff is so sensitive. Willis and Smith need to be completely above board in their approach on these cases. The evidence speaks for itself.

    replay of debunked bullshit by a defendant, Listen to the Ben Wittes on  jan 11 episode of The Bulwark podcast .
    Fani Willis is not out there denying this happened. Instead she's talking about how flawed she is and how lonely her job is. If she was fucking the guy she hired to run this prosecution, we all might as well move to Canada. 

    Why, they get it on differently there?

    Seriously, if she is lonely she should be with whoever she wants. However, the prosecutor of the biggest case she will ever try, against one of the most powerful people in the world?

    it’s stunning how people get promoted or elected to big time jobs and have the reasoning skills of a five year old cat.
    Haha - yeah. No matter how smart someone is they still get led around by their crotch.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    but not surprised it is pac money instead of trump money. 

    the grift never stops.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,878
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    but not surprised it is pac money instead of trump money. 

    the grift never stops.
    2 million for this representation is a great con job done to the biggest most perfect Con Man ever! 😂😂
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,051
    2023
    She's only getting paid cause she's hotter than Rudy.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    but not surprised it is pac money instead of trump money. 

    the grift never stops.
    2 million for this representation is a great con job done to the biggest most perfect Con Man ever! 😂😂
    she has actually lawyered worse than rudy, arguably. can't even figure out how to enter things into evidence, lol
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,179
    but not surprised it is pac money instead of trump money. 

    the grift never stops.
    2 million for this representation is a great con job done to the biggest most perfect Con Man ever! 😂😂
    she has actually lawyered worse than rudy, arguably. can't even figure out how to enter things into evidence, lol

    was sanctioned a million dollars as well for submitting frivolous motions. AND RESUBMITTED the same bullshit after roping some poor wet behind the ears sap to do it again too. HE is facing sanctions now.... Now I know it was at fucksticks bidding but I think this is why you see virtually every other attorney retained by him, leave. They arent wiling to cross that particular line when it comes to their legal reputations with the courts and respective Bars....
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    but not surprised it is pac money instead of trump money. 

    the grift never stops.
    2 million for this representation is a great con job done to the biggest most perfect Con Man ever! 😂😂
    she has actually lawyered worse than rudy, arguably. can't even figure out how to enter things into evidence, lol

    was sanctioned a million dollars as well for submitting frivolous motions. AND RESUBMITTED the same bullshit after roping some poor wet behind the ears sap to do it again too. HE is facing sanctions now.... Now I know it was at fucksticks bidding but I think this is why you see virtually every other attorney retained by him, leave. They arent wiling to cross that particular line when it comes to their legal reputations with the courts and respective Bars....
    it can be argued that they lose their legal reputation and reputation as serious people the minute they agree to represent trump.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,179
    mickeyrat said:
    but not surprised it is pac money instead of trump money. 

    the grift never stops.
    2 million for this representation is a great con job done to the biggest most perfect Con Man ever! 😂😂
    she has actually lawyered worse than rudy, arguably. can't even figure out how to enter things into evidence, lol

    was sanctioned a million dollars as well for submitting frivolous motions. AND RESUBMITTED the same bullshit after roping some poor wet behind the ears sap to do it again too. HE is facing sanctions now.... Now I know it was at fucksticks bidding but I think this is why you see virtually every other attorney retained by him, leave. They arent wiling to cross that particular line when it comes to their legal reputations with the courts and respective Bars....
    it can be argued that they lose their legal reputation and reputation as serious people the minute they agree to represent trump.

    criminal or civil, everyone is entitled to zealous representation  even fuckstick's like fuckstick.
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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