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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,657
    edited May 2023
    It has nothing to do with Green Day having sold over 75 million albums and Soundgarden around 13 million?  I think Dookie sold more copies than the entire Soundgarden catalog :)  American Idiot got close.

    I love Soundgarden.   All of Chris' projects (solo, acoustic, soundgarden audioslave, totd) were amazing, but I think we're over estimating the popularity and influence of Soundgarden.    

    I only liked a few of Green Day's 90s albums, but they were bigger than Soundgarden.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    I actually thought they were always transparent that the fan vote meant nothing. Stupid that Sheryl Crow gets in before SG or Maiden. But the hall has been a joke for at least two decades. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,216
    People get way too hung up on who gets in and who doesn’t every year. It’s not a real validation of anything. 
  • GB281198GB281198 Virginia Posts: 491
    How does Sheryl Crow get in on the first ballot? That's unbelievable 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,917
    Zod said:
    It has nothing to do with Green Day having sold over 75 million albums and Soundgarden around 13 million?  I think Dookie sold more copies than the entire Soundgarden catalog :)  American Idiot got close.

    I love Soundgarden.   All of Chris' projects (solo, acoustic, soundgarden audioslave, totd) were amazing, but I think we're over estimating the popularity and influence of Soundgarden.    

    I only liked a few of Green Day's 90s albums, but they were bigger than Soundgarden.
    There may be some truth behind you saying that we all might be overestimating Soundgarden’s popularity and influence. It’s actually shocking to me to learn they “only” sold 13 million records. 

    But there’s just no consistency. Iron Maiden has sold almost twice as many records as Green Day and are obviously way more influential. So the voters seem to pick and choose how they evaluate nominees. But the Rock Hall is so dumb that’s it’s pointless to engage in a Soundgarden/Maiden/Green Day debate when the Missy Elliot gets elected over two of them. 
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,657
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Zod said:
    It has nothing to do with Green Day having sold over 75 million albums and Soundgarden around 13 million?  I think Dookie sold more copies than the entire Soundgarden catalog :)  American Idiot got close.

    I love Soundgarden.   All of Chris' projects (solo, acoustic, soundgarden audioslave, totd) were amazing, but I think we're over estimating the popularity and influence of Soundgarden.    

    I only liked a few of Green Day's 90s albums, but they were bigger than Soundgarden.
    There may be some truth behind you saying that we all might be overestimating Soundgarden’s popularity and influence. It’s actually shocking to me to learn they “only” sold 13 million records. 

    But there’s just no consistency. Iron Maiden has sold almost twice as many records as Green Day and are obviously way more influential. So the voters seem to pick and choose how they evaluate nominees. But the Rock Hall is so dumb that’s it’s pointless to engage in a Soundgarden/Maiden/Green Day debate when the Missy Elliot gets elected over two of them. 

    definitely. It's not really a rock n' roll hall of fame anymore... I understand it.. they're going to run out of rock bands.

    And yah.. that's crazy Iron Maiden isn't in.   I can understand Soundgarden taking a bit longer, but Iron Maiden should of been in eons ago.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,216
    GB281198 said:
    How does Sheryl Crow get in on the first ballot? That's unbelievable 
    She has lots of hits. More hits than most of the the other acts who were up for nomination. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    I understand the hits argument, but then shouldn't Britney get in on first ballot? does anyone even know the criteria (besides 25 years) that these geezers vote on?
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,133
    Rock and roll should be a criteria. Some of this shit is pop at best
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    it's been a misnomer since its inception, really. there's been non-rock acts inducted from the very beginning. that's part of my issue with the gripes over who should get in and who shouldn't. I don't think someone like Sheryl Crow doesn't belong because of her genre of music; I just don't know that she deserves it based on other determinants. from Wikipedia: Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists' contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. But I think rock and roll is just a general term they use in place of "music". otherwise, how is Eminem or Dolly Parton rock n roll?

    in Canada it's just called The Canadian Music Hall of Fame. Which makes sense. 
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    -EV  8/14/93




  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,133
    Yeah music fits better as a title
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,216
    lastexitlondon said:
    Rock and roll should be a criteria. Some of this shit is pop at best
    It’s all pop at some point. 
  • GB281198GB281198 Virginia Posts: 491
    Not trying to slight Sheryl Crow I'm a fan of her music. Just surprised she got in this quick when other artists have had to wait for years.
  • PapPap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,173
    Happy for RATM and Willie!! :triumph: It's a bummer that SG is not in... :disappointed:
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