Special Prosecutor Smith

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    edited July 2023
    guess the question is , is this solely about the capitol? or the lead up.....

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  • Lerxst1992
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    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Just a little mix up with classified documents mixed in with personal effects, newspapers, magazines, you know, hats and tee shirts, maybe the odd coffee mug or two. Or as Chris would lead you to believe, “just POOTWH’s ego, you know, ‘look what I have everyone, wanna see.’” Normal.
    I’m not sure why you seem so loathsome about Christie running. He doesn’t stand a winning chance and he harms Trump. Isn’t that right up your alley? Democrats shouldn’t care how the right is weakened if it comes with no adverse impact.
    I agreed till Joe Lieberman showed up! 
    And this year if may be Manchin. 

    Why is it always a Joe?

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    edited July 2023
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    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Just a little mix up with classified documents mixed in with personal effects, newspapers, magazines, you know, hats and tee shirts, maybe the odd coffee mug or two. Or as Chris would lead you to believe, “just POOTWH’s ego, you know, ‘look what I have everyone, wanna see.’” Normal.
    I’m not sure why you seem so loathsome about Christie running. He doesn’t stand a winning chance and he harms Trump. Isn’t that right up your alley? Democrats shouldn’t care how the right is weakened if it comes with no adverse impact.
    I agreed till Joe Lieberman showed up! 
    And this year if may be Manchin. 

    Why is it always a Joe?

    😂😂 yeah really why does it have to be fucking Joe! Manchin is a POS 
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  • benjs
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    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Just a little mix up with classified documents mixed in with personal effects, newspapers, magazines, you know, hats and tee shirts, maybe the odd coffee mug or two. Or as Chris would lead you to believe, “just POOTWH’s ego, you know, ‘look what I have everyone, wanna see.’” Normal.
    I’m not sure why you seem so loathsome about Christie running. He doesn’t stand a winning chance and he harms Trump. Isn’t that right up your alley? Democrats shouldn’t care how the right is weakened if it comes with no adverse impact.
    Because Chris is a POS and was POOTWH before POOTWH. He’s irredeemable in my eyes and can go fuck himself. His time to speak truth to shamelessness and insurrection was in 2015, not being a lapdog. Fuck him as he’d still vote POOTWH or third party when POOTWH is the nominee. That’s not the leadership ‘Murica needs.
    You completely missed my point. I specifically said that he doesn’t stand a winning chance (aka would not be a leader). But sure, criticize a guy who’s too weak to earn power, but strong enough to damage your opponents.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Just a little mix up with classified documents mixed in with personal effects, newspapers, magazines, you know, hats and tee shirts, maybe the odd coffee mug or two. Or as Chris would lead you to believe, “just POOTWH’s ego, you know, ‘look what I have everyone, wanna see.’” Normal.
    I’m not sure why you seem so loathsome about Christie running. He doesn’t stand a winning chance and he harms Trump. Isn’t that right up your alley? Democrats shouldn’t care how the right is weakened if it comes with no adverse impact.
    Because Chris is a POS and was POOTWH before POOTWH. He’s irredeemable in my eyes and can go fuck himself. His time to speak truth to shamelessness and insurrection was in 2015, not being a lapdog. Fuck him as he’d still vote POOTWH or third party when POOTWH is the nominee. That’s not the leadership ‘Murica needs.
    You completely missed my point. I specifically said that he doesn’t stand a winning chance (aka would not be a leader). But sure, criticize a guy who’s too weak to earn power, but strong enough to damage your opponents.
    Chris isn’t doing any damage to POOTWH. His popularity among repubs hasn’t slipped at all. Chris is partly responsible for creating POOTWH and his “criticism” of same is falling on deaf ears. Excuse me for not being impressed.
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  • josevolution
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    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Just a little mix up with classified documents mixed in with personal effects, newspapers, magazines, you know, hats and tee shirts, maybe the odd coffee mug or two. Or as Chris would lead you to believe, “just POOTWH’s ego, you know, ‘look what I have everyone, wanna see.’” Normal.
    I’m not sure why you seem so loathsome about Christie running. He doesn’t stand a winning chance and he harms Trump. Isn’t that right up your alley? Democrats shouldn’t care how the right is weakened if it comes with no adverse impact.
    Because Chris is a POS and was POOTWH before POOTWH. He’s irredeemable in my eyes and can go fuck himself. His time to speak truth to shamelessness and insurrection was in 2015, not being a lapdog. Fuck him as he’d still vote POOTWH or third party when POOTWH is the nominee. That’s not the leadership ‘Murica needs.
    You completely missed my point. I specifically said that he doesn’t stand a winning chance (aka would not be a leader). But sure, criticize a guy who’s too weak to earn power, but strong enough to damage your opponents.
    He’s up by 30 points Chris might take some of his voter block but not enough to do any real damage in the primaries and once he’s the nominee most of those voters will fall in line and vote Red! Just my opinion 
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  • mickeyrat
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    Just a packing up and moving out mistake. And, POOTWH has every right to take whatever he wants that doesn’t belong to him. Totally reasonable.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    mickeyrat said:
    or perhaps the easier answer is he is lying. like usual.
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  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    or perhaps the easier answer is he is lying. like usual.

    used as a coaster under that on the rocks bourbon....
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    or perhaps the easier answer is he is lying. like usual.

    used as a coaster under that on the rocks bourbon....
    he is not a credible witness. i doubt they would make a deal with him because he simply cannot be believed or taken seriously. they make a deal with him, he gives them dirt and it is not true, he commits perjury and then the case can be thrown out. do not trust him for one second.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    or perhaps the easier answer is he is lying. like usual.

    used as a coaster under that on the rocks bourbon....
    he is not a credible witness. i doubt they would make a deal with him because he simply cannot be believed or taken seriously. they make a deal with him, he gives them dirt and it is not true, he commits perjury and then the case can be thrown out. do not trust him for one second.
    His statements will either be corroborated by other multiple witness statements or documents or a combination. He may have already given “sworn statements” whereas if what he’s stated turns out to be false, he’s committed perjury, wouldn’t be given a deal and would be charged with perjury, obstruction and whatever original charges he was facing. In addition, “the deal,” if it exists, likely is a reduction in time in prison and not immunity from prosecution.

    Ruddy Ghouliani is in a very difficult place and Jack Mack and the Heart Attacks aren’t fucking around. His team aren’t going to commit rookie mistakes like allowing prosecution witness testimony to blow the whole thing up.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    or perhaps the easier answer is he is lying. like usual.

    used as a coaster under that on the rocks bourbon....
    he is not a credible witness. i doubt they would make a deal with him because he simply cannot be believed or taken seriously. they make a deal with him, he gives them dirt and it is not true, he commits perjury and then the case can be thrown out. do not trust him for one second.
    His statements will either be corroborated by other multiple witness statements or documents or a combination. He may have already given “sworn statements” whereas if what he’s stated turns out to be false, he’s committed perjury, wouldn’t be given a deal and would be charged with perjury, obstruction and whatever original charges he was facing. In addition, “the deal,” if it exists, likely is a reduction in time in prison and not immunity from prosecution.

    Ruddy Ghouliani is in a very difficult place and Jack Mack and the Heart Attacks aren’t fucking around. His team aren’t going to commit rookie mistakes like allowing prosecution witness testimony to blow the whole thing up.
    you don't think trump's attorneys can dismantle and destroy rudy's testimony? i know trump has the worst attorneys that he can get, but anybody on the defense should have dirt on rudy or be able to show that he is not credible and should not be believed.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Just a little mix up with classified documents mixed in with personal effects, newspapers, magazines, you know, hats and tee shirts, maybe the odd coffee mug or two. Or as Chris would lead you to believe, “just POOTWH’s ego, you know, ‘look what I have everyone, wanna see.’” Normal.
    I’m not sure why you seem so loathsome about Christie running. He doesn’t stand a winning chance and he harms Trump. Isn’t that right up your alley? Democrats shouldn’t care how the right is weakened if it comes with no adverse impact.
    Because Chris is a POS and was POOTWH before POOTWH. He’s irredeemable in my eyes and can go fuck himself. His time to speak truth to shamelessness and insurrection was in 2015, not being a lapdog. Fuck him as he’d still vote POOTWH or third party when POOTWH is the nominee. That’s not the leadership ‘Murica needs.
    You completely missed my point. I specifically said that he doesn’t stand a winning chance (aka would not be a leader). But sure, criticize a guy who’s too weak to earn power, but strong enough to damage your opponents.
    Chris isn’t doing any damage to POOTWH. His popularity among repubs hasn’t slipped at all. Chris is partly responsible for creating POOTWH and his “criticism” of same is falling on deaf ears. Excuse me for not being impressed.


    In the context of the nomination that’s probably correct, trump is the likely nominee.

    but to have Christie and Hutchinson on the debate stage both blasting away at trump and his insurrection, could have enormous value in the general election. A slippage of five percent of his supporter base would be catastrophic to his chances in the general.

    an early tell could be if trump skips the first debate thinking he is untouchable , but then shows up to the following debates .
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Just a little mix up with classified documents mixed in with personal effects, newspapers, magazines, you know, hats and tee shirts, maybe the odd coffee mug or two. Or as Chris would lead you to believe, “just POOTWH’s ego, you know, ‘look what I have everyone, wanna see.’” Normal.
    I’m not sure why you seem so loathsome about Christie running. He doesn’t stand a winning chance and he harms Trump. Isn’t that right up your alley? Democrats shouldn’t care how the right is weakened if it comes with no adverse impact.
    Because Chris is a POS and was POOTWH before POOTWH. He’s irredeemable in my eyes and can go fuck himself. His time to speak truth to shamelessness and insurrection was in 2015, not being a lapdog. Fuck him as he’d still vote POOTWH or third party when POOTWH is the nominee. That’s not the leadership ‘Murica needs.
    You completely missed my point. I specifically said that he doesn’t stand a winning chance (aka would not be a leader). But sure, criticize a guy who’s too weak to earn power, but strong enough to damage your opponents.
    Chris isn’t doing any damage to POOTWH. His popularity among repubs hasn’t slipped at all. Chris is partly responsible for creating POOTWH and his “criticism” of same is falling on deaf ears. Excuse me for not being impressed.


    In the context of the nomination that’s probably correct, trump is the likely nominee.

    but to have Christie and Hutchinson on the debate stage both blasting away at trump and his insurrection, could have enormous value in the general election. A slippage of five percent of his supporter base would be catastrophic to his chances in the general.

    an early tell could be if trump skips the first debate thinking he is untouchable , but then shows up to the following debates .
    trump cannot win the general. his only hope is to win in a few key states. 

    he has proven he cannot win the general, and he has gotten less and less popular in 8 years. the gop knows this.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."