psst...8/19/22 part deux....

hillybillyhellboy

RS65573 said:first off welll done you for having many 100s of prints...its not about collecting something with value, it's about letting people enjoy, saviour, remember some good times 

Santos L. Halper said:

RS65573 said:

Prince increase + print more = worth nothing. Way to kill the golden goose.

Real shame that flippers can't flip. Real shame.

This is not about flippers, its about collecting something with a value. I have many 100s of prints...I have 20 hanging all over my house. Making them worth nothing to a degree where they sell for $19 on ebay, makes me, and clearly many, out.

nicknyr15

People crying that posters are too easily available and not flippable. This place…

nicknyr15

RS65573 said:

Santos L. Halper said:

RS65573 said:

Prince increase + print more = worth nothing. Way to kill the golden goose.

Real shame that flippers can't flip. Real shame.

This is not about flippers, its about collecting something with a value. I have many 100s of prints...I have 20 hanging all over my house. Making them worth nothing to a degree where they sell for $19 on ebay, makes me, and clearly many, out.

Peace! Now people who want a souvenir can actually have one without dealing with flippers. Oh , I’m sorry… “poster investors?” 

on2legs

They’re not selling out because it’s the Euro tour and the people most likely to buy them are in Europe but the shipping cost is prohibitive. 

drfox

on2legs said:

They’re not selling out because it’s the Euro tour and the people most likely to buy them are in Europe but the shipping cost is prohibitive. 

Don’t think this is the case. In 2018 most of the European prints were snapped up in 30 minutes. I’m in lots of PJ poster groups and collectors worldwide were buying the bulk of them. Lots of these collectors seem to have disappeared since then. 

MRMACPHISTO75

on2legs said:

They’re not selling out because it’s the Euro tour and the people most likely to buy them are in Europe but the shipping cost is prohibitive. 

True, the dollar has crashed, shipping has gone up. It is working out about £60 per print to ship to the UK, which I think is double the show price. Still think they should have been made available in the UK / EU store, where shipping is more reasonable. I would have probably bought a few already, but now looking at cost. I actually bought a few AP’s as the cost worked out the same nearly as they were shipped from UK/EU

tino_11

Philip_Ireland said:

Santos L. Halper said:

RS65573 said:

Prince increase + print more = worth nothing. Way to kill the golden goose.

Real shame that flippers can't flip. Real shame.

WTF- it’s ok for bands to profit off fans but definitely not ok for fans to make a profit off of a band’s merchandise. I don’t understand your logic. 

I don’t ‘flip’ but once I buy something, isn’t it mine? Why do posters have a “Say no to flippers” sticker on the back of them? It’s only proof that they are authentic, to a third party buyer. 

How can a band like Pearl Jam police what happens to their merchandise after they sell it, and, most importantly, why should they care? 

They want the good stuff to only land in loyal fans hands, please, stop! Release the merch, let it go- you guys make millions making albums, touring and selling merchandise, please forget the merchandise that you have sold! That’s in someone else’s hands, literally.
Jack White tried this same crap too. Please stop, if I buy something from a seller - it’s mine and I am free sell it, if I wish, and so stop bitching about what I do with it! Just saying 

Haha, of course it is. They are the artists after all. They also control supply, demand and message that goes out with their product. And of course they deserve to be paid. The same can’t be said for some chancer buying things up so other have to pay an inflated price. 

People can’t stop flippers of any collectible item, but if you don’t like the messages they put out then don’t buy (to sell!). 

drfox

MRMACPHISTO75 said:

on2legs said:

They’re not selling out because it’s the Euro tour and the people most likely to buy them are in Europe but the shipping cost is prohibitive. 

True, the dollar has crashed, shipping has gone up. It is working out about £60 per print to ship to the UK, which I think is double the show price. Still think they should have been made available in the UK / EU store, where shipping is more reasonable. I would have probably bought a few already, but now looking at cost. I actually bought a few AP’s as the cost worked out the same nearly as they were shipped from UK/EU

Isn’t it the other way round - dollar now much stronger than £ and €, making it more expensive to ship to U.K./Europe? Same here though - have bought the APs for all the prints I like as many of them are now only £0-20 more expensive than the SEs, eg the Grace, Domaradzki, Cooper etc. Some are still much much cheaper from 10c though like the Ames, Munk One, prints sold through Conflux Co etc

MRMACPHISTO75

drfox said:

MRMACPHISTO75 said:

on2legs said:

They’re not selling out because it’s the Euro tour and the people most likely to buy them are in Europe but the shipping cost is prohibitive. 

True, the dollar has crashed, shipping has gone up. It is working out about £60 per print to ship to the UK, which I think is double the show price. Still think they should have been made available in the UK / EU store, where shipping is more reasonable. I would have probably bought a few already, but now looking at cost. I actually bought a few AP’s as the cost worked out the same nearly as they were shipped from UK/EU

Isn’t it the other way round - dollar now much stronger than £ and €, making it more expensive to ship to U.K./Europe? Same here though - have bought the APs for all the prints I like as many of them are now only £0-20 more expensive than the SEs, eg the Grace, Domaradzki, Cooper etc. Some are still much much cheaper from 10c though like the Ames, Munk One, prints sold through Conflux Co etc

Sorry, yes. I meant pound crashed against the dollar. 👍 yes, the American were more expensive. I think Conflux were charging $70 for shipping alone.

drfox

MRMACPHISTO75 said:

drfox said:

MRMACPHISTO75 said:

on2legs said:

They’re not selling out because it’s the Euro tour and the people most likely to buy them are in Europe but the shipping cost is prohibitive. 

True, the dollar has crashed, shipping has gone up. It is working out about £60 per print to ship to the UK, which I think is double the show price. Still think they should have been made available in the UK / EU store, where shipping is more reasonable. I would have probably bought a few already, but now looking at cost. I actually bought a few AP’s as the cost worked out the same nearly as they were shipped from UK/EU

Isn’t it the other way round - dollar now much stronger than £ and €, making it more expensive to ship to U.K./Europe? Same here though - have bought the APs for all the prints I like as many of them are now only £0-20 more expensive than the SEs, eg the Grace, Domaradzki, Cooper etc. Some are still much much cheaper from 10c though like the Ames, Munk One, prints sold through Conflux Co etc

Sorry, yes. I meant pound crashed against the dollar. 👍 yes, the American were more expensive. I think Conflux were charging $70 for shipping alone.

Yep. Euro crashed as well. Dollar is just strong vs the pound and Euro at the moment 

nicknyr15

Philip_Ireland said:

Santos L. Halper said:

RS65573 said:

Prince increase + print more = worth nothing. Way to kill the golden goose.

Real shame that flippers can't flip. Real shame.

WTF- it’s ok for bands to profit off fans but definitely not ok for fans to make a profit off of a band’s merchandise. I don’t understand your logic. 

I don’t ‘flip’ but once I buy something, isn’t it mine? Why do posters have a “Say no to flippers” sticker on the back of them? It’s only proof that they are authentic, to a third party buyer. 

How can a band like Pearl Jam police what happens to their merchandise after they sell it, and, most importantly, why should they care? 

They want the good stuff to only land in loyal fans hands, please, stop! Release the merch, let it go- you guys make millions making albums, touring and selling merchandise, please forget the merchandise that you have sold! That’s in someone else’s hands, literally.
Jack White tried this same crap too. Please stop, if I buy something from a seller - it’s mine and I am free sell it, if I wish, and so stop bitching about what I do with it! Just saying 

Jeez what a delusional take. At least you can still profit from those other bands who sold out of posters in seconds this past week you speak of. 

F Me In The Brain

Ha.  Flippers whining about it here is pretty dumb.

Stoked to get this - was the only one I wanted which I did not already have.  Thanks!

nicknyr15

F Me In The Brain said:

Ha.  Flippers whining about it here is pretty dumb.

Stoked to get this - was the only one I wanted which I did not already have.  Thanks!

Absolutely hilarious 

F Me In The Brain

They can complain, I just think this forum is not someplace where people are going to respond the way they might hope.

Loujoe

F Me In The Brain said:

They can complain, I just think this forum is not someplace where people are going to respond the way they might hope.

Pretty sure sant[a]os has a list & checking it 2wice when mb's come around. See who's gets lost or double baby brained.

F Me In The Brain

Loujoe said:

F Me In The Brain said:

They can complain, I just think this forum is not someplace where people are going to respond the way they might hope.

Pretty sure sant[a]os has a list & checking it 2wice when mb's come around. See who's gets lost or double baby brained.

Hahaha.  Nutsack vulture for them!

1ThoughtKnown

Philip_Ireland said:

Santos L. Halper said:

RS65573 said:

Prince increase + print more = worth nothing. Way to kill the golden goose.

Real shame that flippers can't flip. Real shame.

WTF- it’s ok for bands to profit off fans but definitely not ok for fans to make a profit off of a band’s merchandise. I don’t understand your logic. 

I don’t ‘flip’ but once I buy something, isn’t it mine? Why do posters have a “Say no to flippers” sticker on the back of them? It’s only proof that they are authentic, to a third party buyer. 

How can a band like Pearl Jam police what happens to their merchandise after they sell it, and, most importantly, why should they care? 

They want the good stuff to only land in loyal fans hands, please, stop! Release the merch, let it go- you guys make millions making albums, touring and selling merchandise, please forget the merchandise that you have sold! That’s in someone else’s hands, literally.
Jack White tried this same crap too. Please stop, if I buy something from a seller - it’s mine and I am free sell it, if I wish, and so stop bitching about what I do with it! Just saying 

This reads like it’s a post from an incel thread on the dark web edited for concert posters. Insert true fans for “Stacys” and the band for “Chads” 

Gern Blansten

RS65573 said:

Santos L. Halper said:

RS65573 said:

Prince increase + print more = worth nothing. Way to kill the golden goose.

Real shame that flippers can't flip. Real shame.

This is not about flippers, its about collecting something with a value. I have many 100s of prints...I have 20 hanging all over my house. Making them worth nothing to a degree where they sell for $19 on ebay, makes me, and clearly many, out.

I think you are in the minority. My guess is that most of us buy a poster because we attended the concert and/or just really like the print.

I have never bought a poster with future value in mind. We create value amongst ourselves. 

Philip_Ireland

tino_11 said:

Philip_Ireland said:

Santos L. Halper said:

RS65573 said:

Prince increase + print more = worth nothing. Way to kill the golden goose.

Real shame that flippers can't flip. Real shame.

WTF- it’s ok for bands to profit off fans but definitely not ok for fans to make a profit off of a band’s merchandise. I don’t understand your logic. 

I don’t ‘flip’ but once I buy something, isn’t it mine? Why do posters have a “Say no to flippers” sticker on the back of them? It’s only proof that they are authentic, to a third party buyer. 

How can a band like Pearl Jam police what happens to their merchandise after they sell it, and, most importantly, why should they care? 

They want the good stuff to only land in loyal fans hands, please, stop! Release the merch, let it go- you guys make millions making albums, touring and selling merchandise, please forget the merchandise that you have sold! That’s in someone else’s hands, literally.
Jack White tried this same crap too. Please stop, if I buy something from a seller - it’s mine and I am free sell it, if I wish, and so stop bitching about what I do with it! Just saying 

Haha, of course it is. They are the artists after all. They also control supply, demand and message that goes out with their product. And of course they deserve to be paid. The same can’t be said for some chancer buying things up so other have to pay an inflated price. 

People can’t stop flippers of any collectible item, but if you don’t like the messages they put out then don’t buy (to sell!). 

You are evidently missing my point. They might control, supply and message (not sure how they would control demand, like you say - make a terrible album nobody buys it?) but once the product is out of their hands(obviously, respecting licensing issues) anyone can sell it if they want. I’m not a flipper but I resent being told what I can do with something that I have bought. 

Gern Blansten

Philip_Ireland said:

tino_11 said:

Philip_Ireland said:

Santos L. Halper said:

RS65573 said:

Prince increase + print more = worth nothing. Way to kill the golden goose.

Real shame that flippers can't flip. Real shame.

WTF- it’s ok for bands to profit off fans but definitely not ok for fans to make a profit off of a band’s merchandise. I don’t understand your logic. 

I don’t ‘flip’ but once I buy something, isn’t it mine? Why do posters have a “Say no to flippers” sticker on the back of them? It’s only proof that they are authentic, to a third party buyer. 

How can a band like Pearl Jam police what happens to their merchandise after they sell it, and, most importantly, why should they care? 

They want the good stuff to only land in loyal fans hands, please, stop! Release the merch, let it go- you guys make millions making albums, touring and selling merchandise, please forget the merchandise that you have sold! That’s in someone else’s hands, literally.
Jack White tried this same crap too. Please stop, if I buy something from a seller - it’s mine and I am free sell it, if I wish, and so stop bitching about what I do with it! Just saying 

Haha, of course it is. They are the artists after all. They also control supply, demand and message that goes out with their product. And of course they deserve to be paid. The same can’t be said for some chancer buying things up so other have to pay an inflated price. 

People can’t stop flippers of any collectible item, but if you don’t like the messages they put out then don’t buy (to sell!). 

You are evidently missing my point. They might control, supply and message (not sure how they would control demand, like you say - make a terrible album nobody buys it?) but once the product is out of their hands(obviously, respecting licensing issues) anyone can sell it if they want. I’m not a flipper but I resent being told what I can do with something that I have bought. 

Get over yourself. If you really want to sell it they aren't stopping you from doing that on your own.