Monkey-Pox Another Sign of the End Times?

PJ_Soul

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Stove

PJ_Soul said:

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Like Mad Max, New dark ages, bodies burning in the streets. Black Plague style. A real leveler. In our lifetime. In the next 5-10 years min.

brianlux

PJ_Soul said:

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Is antimicrobial resistance related to our over-use of antibiotics?  That latter issue was talked about a fair amount some time back but I have not heard much about it lately.  Still an issue though, I believe.

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Is antimicrobial resistance related to our over-use of antibiotics?  That latter issue was talked about a fair amount some time back but I have not heard much about it lately.  Still an issue though, I believe.

yes. 

yes, it is still an issue, although I think the medical community has been scaling back the knee jerk prescribing of antibioticis as a result. wish my idiot GP would get that message. I think a lot of doctors are still like that, unfortunately. "here, take some antibiotics while we wait your test results". um, no. 

Cropduster-80

I think so and that one is americas fault.

based on experience in the UK no one ever got antibiotics for pretty much anything the entire time we were living there.  Not because of cost but because a cold is a virus.  It actually took a while to get use to.  Walking into a doctors office (surgery as they say) and hearing “there isn’t a medicine for this” or hearing “if your sinus infection doesn’t clear up on it’s own, then come back”

american doctors hand out antibiotics for everything because that’s the expectation we’ve set. Go in with a viral infection and walk out with amoxicillin more often than not.  It happens a lot 

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Is antimicrobial resistance related to our over-use of antibiotics?  That latter issue was talked about a fair amount some time back but I have not heard much about it lately.  Still an issue though, I believe.

yes. 

yes, it is still an issue, although I think the medical community has been scaling back the knee jerk prescribing of antibioticis as a result. wish my idiot GP would get that message. I think a lot of doctors are still like that, unfortunately. "here, take some antibiotics while we wait your test results". um, no. 

I kind of thought that was the case.  I was given antibiotics several times when I was a teenager.  The dermatologist said it would cure my acne.  Looking back on it, I think I was being used as a guinea pig. It's no wonder I have had a number of health problems over the years.  A bit surprising, even, that I'm still kicking.  Probably because I haven't taken any antibiotics in the last 20 years or so.  Damn all doctors who use their patients to test their theories or ideas based on hunches.

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Is antimicrobial resistance related to our over-use of antibiotics?  That latter issue was talked about a fair amount some time back but I have not heard much about it lately.  Still an issue though, I believe.

yes. 

yes, it is still an issue, although I think the medical community has been scaling back the knee jerk prescribing of antibioticis as a result. wish my idiot GP would get that message. I think a lot of doctors are still like that, unfortunately. "here, take some antibiotics while we wait your test results". um, no. 

I kind of thought that was the case.  I was given antibiotics several times when I was a teenager.  The dermatologist said it would cure my acne.  Looking back on it, I think I was being used as a guinea pig. It's no wonder I have had a number of health problems over the years.  A bit surprising, even, that I'm still kicking.  Probably because I haven't taken any antibiotics in the last 20 years or so.  Damn all doctors who use their patients to test their theories or ideas based on hunches.

I'm not sure if it's testing people, more that it's just lazy medical practice. back then, I don't think people knew the ramifications of over prescribing antibiotics. I don't think we knew that bugs could mutate to bypass the medication. Now we know. 

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Is antimicrobial resistance related to our over-use of antibiotics?  That latter issue was talked about a fair amount some time back but I have not heard much about it lately.  Still an issue though, I believe.

yes. 

yes, it is still an issue, although I think the medical community has been scaling back the knee jerk prescribing of antibioticis as a result. wish my idiot GP would get that message. I think a lot of doctors are still like that, unfortunately. "here, take some antibiotics while we wait your test results". um, no. 

I kind of thought that was the case.  I was given antibiotics several times when I was a teenager.  The dermatologist said it would cure my acne.  Looking back on it, I think I was being used as a guinea pig. It's no wonder I have had a number of health problems over the years.  A bit surprising, even, that I'm still kicking.  Probably because I haven't taken any antibiotics in the last 20 years or so.  Damn all doctors who use their patients to test their theories or ideas based on hunches.

I'm not sure if it's testing people, more that it's just lazy medical practice. back then, I don't think people knew the ramifications of over prescribing antibiotics. I don't think we knew that bugs could mutate to bypass the medication. Now we know. 

Yeah, could be right.  I guess as a teenager I subscribed a bit too easily to that 60's notion of "Don't trust anyone over 30".  And then I was 30. 

oftenreading

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Is antimicrobial resistance related to our over-use of antibiotics?  That latter issue was talked about a fair amount some time back but I have not heard much about it lately.  Still an issue though, I believe.

yes. 

yes, it is still an issue, although I think the medical community has been scaling back the knee jerk prescribing of antibioticis as a result. wish my idiot GP would get that message. I think a lot of doctors are still like that, unfortunately. "here, take some antibiotics while we wait your test results". um, no. 

I kind of thought that was the case.  I was given antibiotics several times when I was a teenager.  The dermatologist said it would cure my acne.  Looking back on it, I think I was being used as a guinea pig. It's no wonder I have had a number of health problems over the years.  A bit surprising, even, that I'm still kicking.  Probably because I haven't taken any antibiotics in the last 20 years or so.  Damn all doctors who use their patients to test their theories or ideas based on hunches.

I'm not sure if it's testing people, more that it's just lazy medical practice. back then, I don't think people knew the ramifications of over prescribing antibiotics. I don't think we knew that bugs could mutate to bypass the medication. Now we know. 

Yeah, could be right.  I guess as a teenager I subscribed a bit too easily to that 60's notion of "Don't trust anyone over 30".  And then I was 30. 

Certain antibiotics are still recommended treatment for some types of acne. They’re not first line but they’re evidence based when it hasn’t responded to other treatments. 

brianlux

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

Monkeypox isn't even that serious in the scheme of things. There are far more dangerous health concerns to be worried about IMO. Antimicrobial resistance, for instance. That's a much more urgent global health threat that is already killing millions of people every year, and the number will only keep increasing. And there is no vaccine for that.

I'm curious about what you really mean by "sign of end times" though.... Like, are thinking in terms of omens, or in terms of Revelations, or do you just mean that something like monkeypox somehow puts us that much closer to global catastrophe somehow?

Is antimicrobial resistance related to our over-use of antibiotics?  That latter issue was talked about a fair amount some time back but I have not heard much about it lately.  Still an issue though, I believe.

yes. 

yes, it is still an issue, although I think the medical community has been scaling back the knee jerk prescribing of antibioticis as a result. wish my idiot GP would get that message. I think a lot of doctors are still like that, unfortunately. "here, take some antibiotics while we wait your test results". um, no. 

I kind of thought that was the case.  I was given antibiotics several times when I was a teenager.  The dermatologist said it would cure my acne.  Looking back on it, I think I was being used as a guinea pig. It's no wonder I have had a number of health problems over the years.  A bit surprising, even, that I'm still kicking.  Probably because I haven't taken any antibiotics in the last 20 years or so.  Damn all doctors who use their patients to test their theories or ideas based on hunches.

I'm not sure if it's testing people, more that it's just lazy medical practice. back then, I don't think people knew the ramifications of over prescribing antibiotics. I don't think we knew that bugs could mutate to bypass the medication. Now we know. 

Yeah, could be right.  I guess as a teenager I subscribed a bit too easily to that 60's notion of "Don't trust anyone over 30".  And then I was 30. 

Certain antibiotics are still recommended treatment for some types of acne. They’re not first line but they’re evidence based when it hasn’t responded to other treatments. 

I eventually solved the problem on my own- without antibiotics!- doing my own research.  It's not that I don't trust all doctors or the medical field, but while working as a volunteer for 1,000 hours at our local Health Library (overseen by our local Marshall Hospital) one of the things I learned was the wisdom of self advocacy, doing some research on one's health issues, being open to complimentary therapies, and having a healthy skepticism regarding a single prognosis.