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Is there an inner circle of elitist PJ collectors?

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,114
edited July 2022 in The Porch
As everyone know, the dam has broken within an inner circle of KISS hoarders that for decades have kept things from the rest of the fan base. Several videos of KISS from the 70s that the world has never seen, has recently been leaked/freed onto youtube by someone being disgruntled within this circle. Live videos of their favorite band from their peak that people didn't know existed that now is available. I would imagine Mike McCready, Matt Cameron and Jeff Ament are having watching parties every night back at the hotel.

https://youtu.be/Sn799bvB46A


Is there a similar thing within the PJ community? Of hoardes keeping things from the community at large? Are there any mythological holy grail things from Pearl Jam's past that should exist, but has not been made available? Some audience boot from some show? Or who knows - a secret soundboard of Copenhagen 2007?
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  • PB11041PB11041 Posts: 2,805
    The only things knowingly being held back are items the band and managment have deemed taboo.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,237
    PB11041 said:
    The only things knowingly being held back are items the band and managment have deemed taboo.
    Was just typing up the same response. Though there’s that guy that has a bunch of Dave A. tapes he bought from a storage unit sale (?) that haven’t been completely put out into the open. 
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    PB11041 said:
    The only things knowingly being held back are items the band and managment have deemed taboo.
    Dave A tapes, what else?

    it would be nice to know some of the stuff this encompasses. I have no idea what else it would even be 
  • emptycupinthemiddleoftheseaemptycupinthemiddleofthesea Posts: 209
    This absolutely exists in the PJ world. The 95 tour documentary was extremely hard to get for a long time. On the 2000 tour, I met some guys before a show and smoked weed in their van and they played me Fatal and Sad years before they were released. When I asked them how they got them, they wouldn't tell me and when I asked if I could get a copy they said no.  
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  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,418
    Black Box Society
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    emptycupinthemiddleofthesea said:
    This absolutely exists in the PJ world. The 95 tour documentary was extremely hard to get for a long time. On the 2000 tour, I met some guys before a show and smoked weed in their van and they played me Fatal and Sad years before they were released. When I asked them how they got them, they wouldn't tell me and when I asked if I could get a copy they said no.  
    The best part of that story is you willingly got in to a strange van with the promise of rare music.

    might as well have been an offer of candy 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,087
    Paraphrasing from what I remember but this story has been printed out there.

    So there was a guy in Florida that met EV at a bar and after hearing that he had a recording studio they went there and recorded stuff.  It was understood that the recordings couldn't get leaked out.

    EV went a few times and recorded a few times.  The person made copies and friends got them, close friends, whom also made copies.  It got back to PJ camp and when the person tried to reach EV's personal line or what not he would not pick up.

    That bond was broken and never did EV come around again...

    So I am sure there is more of this.

    I'm way down the chain but I got sent some things that no one else had and not a big deal because everyone has seen them now.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,087
    Cropduster-80 said:
    emptycupinthemiddleofthesea said:
    This absolutely exists in the PJ world. The 95 tour documentary was extremely hard to get for a long time. On the 2000 tour, I met some guys before a show and smoked weed in their van and they played me Fatal and Sad years before they were released. When I asked them how they got them, they wouldn't tell me and when I asked if I could get a copy they said no.  
    The best part of that story is you willingly got in to a strange van with the promise of rare music.

    might as well have been an offer of candy 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,498
    Cropduster-80 said:
    emptycupinthemiddleofthesea said:
    This absolutely exists in the PJ world. The 95 tour documentary was extremely hard to get for a long time. On the 2000 tour, I met some guys before a show and smoked weed in their van and they played me Fatal and Sad years before they were released. When I asked them how they got them, they wouldn't tell me and when I asked if I could get a copy they said no.  
    The best part of that story is you willingly got in to a strange van with the promise of rare music.

    might as well have been an offer of candy 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,187
    Secret society lol 😂 
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  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Posts: 3,020
    Unless you're personal friends with someone in the band or their camp and promised to never release or make public something that they gave you, I can't imagine being such a weirdo that you'd hoard all of these old bootlegs or videos to yourself.  But I have no doubt that there are elitist, snobby PJ fans in existence.  
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,901
    The infamous meltdown and betrayal many years ago…some will recall.


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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,114
    edited July 2022
    100 Pacer said:
    The infamous meltdown and betrayal many years ago…some will recall.


    Did it involve a high quality recording of Copenhagen 2007?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,418
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Paraphrasing from what I remember but this story has been printed out there.

    So there was a guy in Florida that met EV at a bar and after hearing that he had a recording studio they went there and recorded stuff.  It was understood that the recordings couldn't get leaked out.

    EV went a few times and recorded a few times.  The person made copies and friends got them, close friends, whom also made copies.  It got back to PJ camp and when the person tried to reach EV's personal line or what not he would not pick up.

    That bond was broken and never did EV come around again...

    So I am sure there is more of this.

    I'm way down the chain but I got sent some things that no one else had and not a big deal because everyone has seen them now.
    Birdman Sessions?
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,237
    Hobbes said:
    Black Box Society
    That’s what I was trying to remember earlier when I posted. 
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,237
    100 Pacer said:
    The infamous meltdown and betrayal many years ago…some will recall.


    I don’t recall that on here. 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,123
    100 Pacer said:
    The infamous meltdown and betrayal many years ago…some will recall.


    Interesting. 
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,934
    Hobbes said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Paraphrasing from what I remember but this story has been printed out there.

    So there was a guy in Florida that met EV at a bar and after hearing that he had a recording studio they went there and recorded stuff.  It was understood that the recordings couldn't get leaked out.

    EV went a few times and recorded a few times.  The person made copies and friends got them, close friends, whom also made copies.  It got back to PJ camp and when the person tried to reach EV's personal line or what not he would not pick up.

    That bond was broken and never did EV come around again...

    So I am sure there is more of this.

    I'm way down the chain but I got sent some things that no one else had and not a big deal because everyone has seen them now.
    Birdman Sessions?
    Yeah… didn’t that guy leak voicemails that Ed left for him too?
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    on2legs said:
    Hobbes said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Paraphrasing from what I remember but this story has been printed out there.

    So there was a guy in Florida that met EV at a bar and after hearing that he had a recording studio they went there and recorded stuff.  It was understood that the recordings couldn't get leaked out.

    EV went a few times and recorded a few times.  The person made copies and friends got them, close friends, whom also made copies.  It got back to PJ camp and when the person tried to reach EV's personal line or what not he would not pick up.

    That bond was broken and never did EV come around again...

    So I am sure there is more of this.

    I'm way down the chain but I got sent some things that no one else had and not a big deal because everyone has seen them now.
    Birdman Sessions?
    Yeah… didn’t that guy leak voicemails that Ed left for him too?
    Voicemail has to help date this.  Late 90’s early 2000’s?

    can’t be anything more recent than about 20 years I wouldn’t think 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,360
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    As everyone know, the dam has broken within an inner circle of KISS hoarders that for decades have kept things from the rest of the fan base. Several videos of KISS from the 70s that the world has never seen, has recently been leaked/freed onto youtube by someone being disgruntled within this circle. Live videos of their favorite band from their peak that people didn't know existed that now is available. I would imagine Mike McCready, Matt Cameron and Jeff Ament are having watching parties every night back at the hotel.

    https://youtu.be/Sn799bvB46A


    Is there a similar thing within the PJ community? Of hoardes keeping things from the community at large? Are there any mythological holy grail things from Pearl Jam's past that should exist, but has not been made available? Some audience boot from some show? Or who knows - a secret soundboard of Copenhagen 2007?
    Yes.  Absolutely that exists.  
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,934
    Cropduster-80 said:
    on2legs said:
    Hobbes said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Paraphrasing from what I remember but this story has been printed out there.

    So there was a guy in Florida that met EV at a bar and after hearing that he had a recording studio they went there and recorded stuff.  It was understood that the recordings couldn't get leaked out.

    EV went a few times and recorded a few times.  The person made copies and friends got them, close friends, whom also made copies.  It got back to PJ camp and when the person tried to reach EV's personal line or what not he would not pick up.

    That bond was broken and never did EV come around again...

    So I am sure there is more of this.

    I'm way down the chain but I got sent some things that no one else had and not a big deal because everyone has seen them now.
    Birdman Sessions?
    Yeah… didn’t that guy leak voicemails that Ed left for him too?
    Voicemail has to help date this.  Late 90’s early 2000’s?

    can’t be anything more recent than about 20 years I wouldn’t think 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,526
    I want in. 



    (that stonecutters logo could easily be altered using a PJ)
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,934
    lol 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,661
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I want in. 



    (that stonecutters logo could easily be altered using a PJ)

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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Posts: 4,895
    I havr no doubt there are some hoarder collectors who have really amazing stuff,  but thankfully we have ninersfan to get us stuff
  • Evel KEvel K Posts: 526
    I just wish the sound guy from the 1992 Lollapalooza at Pine Knob would dig through his boxes and find the set list for Day 1.
    Things were different then
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  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,643
    Can anyone get me the 2006 San Diego DVD?
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  • RS65573RS65573 Posts: 2,465
    PJammer4life said:
    Can anyone get me the 2006 San Diego DVD?
    Your all asking the questions wrong. I might have a vcd. Not a dvd. 

    I might have b sides and birdman. 

    I might have the Asia vcd. 

    I definitely have no sound board dvd or 4 k anything lol. 

    I think the new shhhh is seasons Düsseldorf 2019. Get that. 


  • dcp3ydcp3y Posts: 818
    First rule of inner circle elitist Pearl Jam collectors is we don’t talk about inner circle elitist Pearl Jam collectors…




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