It's extremely weird to have this released without every song.... and during the active tour...would have thought after the tour with a lot more variety in where the song was performed.
It's extremely weird to have this released without every song.... and during the active tour...would have thought after the tour with a lot more variety in where the song was performed.
Pretty sure its just the band trying to raise awareness to it seeing as they are only just touring it 2 years after release?
It's extremely weird to have this released without every song.... and during the active tour...would have thought after the tour with a lot more variety in where the song was performed.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I get that this is what message boards are for, more or less, but it's okay to just like let a thing happen and pass by and not complain about it. You don't want the CD, don't buy the CD! Problem solved!
I think people are saying they actually really like the concept of this live Gigaton release but also just stating what they are looking for from this type of thing.
General view is that most would like:
All tracks from the album. Same sequence as album. More of a variety of shows. Standalone vinyl release. Value for money on the whole package.
I don't think the CD is overpriced on its own but then you have 10c shipping. I think if you are bundling a CD with an LP, you have to do better on price to entice people.
It's the kind of release I can easily just pass on. If it had met more of the above points then I would have snapped it up.
All they did was make it so everyone who already bought the album doesn't have to buy it again to get the bonus CD. Pretty great move to show appreciation for their fans who bought the album two years ago, IMO. This isnt some rare thing so it is super easy to pass on and ignore if you want. Also, for all the "money grab" people it is actually the opposite since they are making it so you don't have to spend $40 ish to get this CD if you want it, also not sure how a $10 cd could ever be considered a money grab.
I tend to think it’s possible record stores get the cd to bundle with the existing records they already have. Slap a tour edition sticker on the record, hand the customer the cd
I tend to think it’s possible record stores get the cd to bundle with the existing records they already have. Slap a tour edition sticker on the record, hand the customer the cd
Is that possible?
Seems doubtful. I would imagine its possible that if there are boxes full of them in a warehouse they take the plastic off, put a CD in, wrap it again and sticker. If they are pressing more then it seems like warehouse stock must be pretty low.
I've often wondered about some of the stickers on things that say "features the hit singles" "Grammy nominated" etc if it's just the same initial pressing with just a sticker put on it, like they had boxes in the warehouse unstickered from when it was initially released months earlier or if they just pressed more due to demand.
Pearl Jam delivers the Tour Edition of their 11th studio album, 2020's critically acclaimed #1 Rock Album, and Billboard 200 Top 10 album, Gigaton, featuring 11 live songs including: "Dance Of The Clairvoyants", "Superblood Wolfmoon", "Retrograde" and more. Gigaton (Tour Edition) includes the original vinyl LP with an 11-track live CD recorded during various 2021 performances.
This package will be available at indie record stores starting July 8th.
it’s really weird because literally this morning I thought it would be fun to do a tour compilation of every song played on a tour in one release. This is the same idea
What would be fun...do a sort of "Two Legs" but ONLY with Yield songs.
Then do a "Binaural" release, but only Binaural songs from the 2000 tour.
Then do Riot Act songs but only from the 2003 tour.
Avocado of those songs from the 2006 tour.
Backspacer from the 2009/2010 tours.
Lightning Bolt from the 2013/2014 tours.
I don't know if it would be possible with No Code and prior.
Great ideal ? Nice thinking
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I'm definitely 1 of the "other 1/2" of the orders still waiting to be filled. Yes folks, just procuring a CD these days is subject to 'supply chain issues.' Which is why we now get things like Elton John's Madman Across The Water 51st Anniversary Edition & Jethro Tull Broadsword & The Beast 41st Anniversary Edition.
Cout me among those disappointed--that I missed out on this release. Sure, I can take the files and compile my own digital/burned version, but it's never the same "feeling." As mentioned above, this would have been a perfect item for analog members.
CDs are heading toward their own great revival.
Given how expensive records have become (insane to spend $30 on any single disc mass-produced album), there's an opportunity for CDs to really re-enter the conversation despite being available all along during the vinyl re-boom. Once people can't easily get CDs at retail, they'll see a resurgence and prices will skyrocket on things many just tossed towards thrift shops. The reason ppl want vinyl is because most of us grew up on it, own(ed) it, and collect(ed) it all along. (I'm glad that I never strayed from vinyl when I also got into tapes and CDs.) Then it was taken away because we were a very select market of buyers who didn't offset the costs to produce. This is all coming for CDs.
Cout me among those disappointed--that I missed out on this release. Sure, I can take the files and compile my own digital/burned version, but it's never the same "feeling." As mentioned above, this would have been a perfect item for analog members.
CDs are heading toward their own great revival.
Given how expensive records have become (insane to spend $30 on any single disc mass-produced album), there's an opportunity for CDs to really re-enter the conversation despite being available all along during the vinyl re-boom. Once people can't easily get CDs at retail, they'll see a resurgence and prices will skyrocket on things many just tossed towards thrift shops. The reason ppl want vinyl is because most of us grew up on it, own(ed) it, and collect(ed) it all along. (I'm glad that I never strayed from vinyl when I also got into tapes and CDs.) Then it was taken away because we were a very select market of buyers who didn't offset the costs to produce. This is all coming for CDs.
Totally agree with your take on CDs. At one point around 20 years ago, I had around a thousand CDs, but I slowly purged them on ebay after ripping them to digital files. I hung on to all my favorite albums and bands, which left me with around 150 - 200 today. I still buy new albums on CD from my favorite artists even though I don't listen to them often, I still like to see the liner notes and having something to hold while I'm listening to the album occasionally.
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Cout me among those disappointed--that I missed out on this release. Sure, I can take the files and compile my own digital/burned version, but it's never the same "feeling." As mentioned above, this would have been a perfect item for analog members.
CDs are heading toward their own great revival.
Given how expensive records have become (insane to spend $30 on any single disc mass-produced album), there's an opportunity for CDs to really re-enter the conversation despite being available all along during the vinyl re-boom. Once people can't easily get CDs at retail, they'll see a resurgence and prices will skyrocket on things many just tossed towards thrift shops. The reason ppl want vinyl is because most of us grew up on it, own(ed) it, and collect(ed) it all along. (I'm glad that I never strayed from vinyl when I also got into tapes and CDs.) Then it was taken away because we were a very select market of buyers who didn't offset the costs to produce. This is all coming for CDs.
Totally agree with your take on CDs. At one point around 20 years ago, I had around a thousand CDs, but I slowly purged them on ebay after ripping them to digital files. I hung on to all my favorite albums and bands, which left me with around 150 - 200 today. I still buy new albums on CD from my favorite artists even though I don't listen to them often, I still like to see the liner notes and having something to hold while I'm listening to the album occasionally.
Agree with both of you on this. First format was vinyl but CD was so much more convenient and you didn't really have too much of a sacrifice on the artwork and liner notes. Still buy CDs from select artists and a few vinyls as well.
On another note did anyone else get a shipping notice for the Gigaton Live CD but never receive it? Tracking number still has not moved since July 11th.
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General view is that most would like:
All tracks from the album.
Same sequence as album.
More of a variety of shows.
Standalone vinyl release.
Value for money on the whole package.
I don't think the CD is overpriced on its own but then you have 10c shipping. I think if you are bundling a CD with an LP, you have to do better on price to entice people.
It's the kind of release I can easily just pass on. If it had met more of the above points then I would have snapped it up.
after you already released it
It is being bundled with the vinyl.
All they did was make it so everyone who already bought the album doesn't have to buy it again to get the bonus CD. Pretty great move to show appreciation for their fans who bought the album two years ago, IMO. This isnt some rare thing so it is super easy to pass on and ignore if you want. Also, for all the "money grab" people it is actually the opposite since they are making it so you don't have to spend $40 ish to get this CD if you want it, also not sure how a $10 cd could ever be considered a money grab.
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I've often wondered about some of the stickers on things that say "features the hit singles" "Grammy nominated" etc if it's just the same initial pressing with just a sticker put on it, like they had boxes in the warehouse unstickered from when it was initially released months earlier or if they just pressed more due to demand.
Another Pearl Jam item taken down from Merch Bar.
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Yeah once my car didn’t have one, it was over for me
What if it was a box set of CDs:
The album portions of Tenadelphia, Vsville, Mo Code, Yieldwaukee, Bironto...hell, they could throw Avocado from Italy in there.
It'd be six CDs and a good accompaniment to this CD, no?
People would buy it.
CDs are heading toward their own great revival.
Given how expensive records have become (insane to spend $30 on any single disc mass-produced album), there's an opportunity for CDs to really re-enter the conversation despite being available all along during the vinyl re-boom. Once people can't easily get CDs at retail, they'll see a resurgence and prices will skyrocket on things many just tossed towards thrift shops. The reason ppl want vinyl is because most of us grew up on it, own(ed) it, and collect(ed) it all along. (I'm glad that I never strayed from vinyl when I also got into tapes and CDs.) Then it was taken away because we were a very select market of buyers who didn't offset the costs to produce. This is all coming for CDs.
Totally agree with your take on CDs. At one point around 20 years ago, I had around a thousand CDs, but I slowly purged them on ebay after ripping them to digital files. I hung on to all my favorite albums and bands, which left me with around 150 - 200 today. I still buy new albums on CD from my favorite artists even though I don't listen to them often, I still like to see the liner notes and having something to hold while I'm listening to the album occasionally.
On another note did anyone else get a shipping notice for the Gigaton Live CD but never receive it? Tracking number still has not moved since July 11th.