*** Pearl Jam Zurich, Switzerland Fanviews 6/23/22 ***

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  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,249
    Cool pictures, thanks!!
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 6,092
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 
  • aurelgugusaurelgugus France & LuxembourgPosts: 482
    If you look at the show on paper, there is not much in there…but if you were in the FOS you have gone through a wonderful show with a respectful crowd and fans singing their lungs out. Great experience.
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  • severinlseverinl Posts: 9
    If you look at the show on paper, there is not much in there…but if you were in the FOS you have gone through a wonderful show with a respectful crowd and fans singing their lungs out. Great experience.
    Exactly this, we had 2 people with us who were not familiar with the band at all and they were fascinated by how into it the crowd was (and the band as well). 

    We had an absolute blast, had a much better time than in Berlin and FOS crowd was simply amazing. 

    I also felt the band was into it apart from the meh crowd-reaction pre 7 o'clock which really seemed to piss eddie off.

    I only have vienna left on this tour and I can only hope that the crowd will be as good as FOS-Zürich Crowd
  • stardawgstardawg Posts: 34
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 

    It's because he assumes a role of spokesman for the fanview of this tour.
    I'd expect him to take a more objective position.
    It's disrespectful to call a crowd dead a couple of minutes into a show.
    I just don't like the attitude.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 6,092
    stardawg said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 

    It's because he assumes a role of spokesman for the fanview of this tour.
    I'd expect him to take a more objective position.
    It's disrespectful to call a crowd dead a couple of minutes into a show.
    I just don't like the attitude.
    Fair enough but I don’t view him as a spokesman for these threads at all. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 14,051
    stardawg said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 

    It's because he assumes a role of spokesman for the fanview of this tour.
    I'd expect him to take a more objective position.
    It's disrespectful to call a crowd dead a couple of minutes into a show.
    I just don't like the attitude.
    If Dimi said the crowd was dead it was dead.
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  • Release 11Release 11 Posts: 60
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 

    It's because he assumes a role of spokesman for the fanview of this tour.
    I'd expect him to take a more objective position.
    It's disrespectful to call a crowd dead a couple of minutes into a show.
    I just don't like the attitude.
    Fair enough but I don’t view him as a spokesman for these threads at all. 
    So you can say a crowd is good but Dimi can’t say that they are bad? 

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 6,092
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 

    It's because he assumes a role of spokesman for the fanview of this tour.
    I'd expect him to take a more objective position.
    It's disrespectful to call a crowd dead a couple of minutes into a show.
    I just don't like the attitude.
    Fair enough but I don’t view him as a spokesman for these threads at all. 
    So you can say a crowd is good but Dimi can’t say that they are bad? 

    Exactly. Makes no sense that people get upset and want to filter out comments if they aren’t the same opinion as theirs. Weird 
  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UKPosts: 2,863
    Some people just want to watch the world burn.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,361
    edited June 24
    nvm
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • aurelgugusaurelgugus France & LuxembourgPosts: 482
    stardawg said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 

    It's because he assumes a role of spokesman for the fanview of this tour.
    I'd expect him to take a more objective position.
    It's disrespectful to call a crowd dead a couple of minutes into a show.
    I just don't like the attitude.
    If Dimi said the crowd was dead it was dead.
    He was most likely not in FOS or if so, his expectations are way too high for a crowd of 40/50
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,361
    Who cares. Enjoy yourselves. Fuck anyone else saying how you are or should be. 

    On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,361
    stardawg said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 

    It's because he assumes a role of spokesman for the fanview of this tour.
    I'd expect him to take a more objective position.
    It's disrespectful to call a crowd dead a couple of minutes into a show.
    I just don't like the attitude.
    If Dimi said the crowd was dead it was dead.
    Big failure for Pearl jam if so. With 30-35 years of live experience, if they can’t make this monoloth of a crowd works than they have failed. 

    Maybe the key could have been to play more from Riot Act 
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX AustinPosts: 6,987
    floor looks packed in the pics.  hope my shorty wife will be able to see if we hang in the back.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 14,051
    stardawg said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    stardawg said:
    I'm really happy with the show last night. I loved the slow start with Release. Crazy Mary was epic! The crowd (I stood just behind the FOH area) was right there from the beginning and seemed to enjoy every second of the evening. The band seemed to notice that and the connection between the audience and the band was strong and positive. That's not a given for a Swiss show.
    What annoyed me were Dimitri's disrespectful comments about the show and the people. 'Dead crowd'? 'Ed talks shit in German'? I think that's not worthy of the band and their fans.
    How were his comments disrespectful? It’s HIS experience of the show. You had a great time? Cool. Why does it matter what his experience was ? 

    It's because he assumes a role of spokesman for the fanview of this tour.
    I'd expect him to take a more objective position.
    It's disrespectful to call a crowd dead a couple of minutes into a show.
    I just don't like the attitude.
    If Dimi said the crowd was dead it was dead.
    Big failure for Pearl jam if so. With 30-35 years of live experience, if they can’t make this monoloth of a crowd works than they have failed. 

    Maybe the key could have been to play more from Riot Act 
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  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,712
    edited June 24
    If you look at the show on paper, there is not much in there…but if you were in the FOS you have gone through a wonderful show with a respectful crowd and fans singing their lungs out. Great experience.
    I disagree, on paper there are quite a few gems in there.  I've seen PJ a lot over the years and I found this set list sweet for the most part.  Release, Crazy Mary, Immortality, Given to Fly, In Hiding, Present Tense . . .SWEEEET
    Post edited by PureandEasy on
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  • KloddzKloddz Posts: 2,573
    edited June 24

    On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
    Now THAT right there is a quote from my 3rd favorite movie of all time, that I'll come out of hibernation to say - well played, sir.
    Post edited by Kloddz on
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  • KloddzKloddz Posts: 2,573
    edited June 24
    I also couldn't disagree more with anyone saying that this show was anything but amazing (I was on the rail, right where myself and the rest of the dead crowd were singing our lungs out to every dam song) - but I haven't been to 64 PJ shows either and went to only this one on this tour, and thus enjoy hearing the songs that got me into this band in the first place sprinkled in with the rarities, so there's no point for me to be arguing against the elite, I guess... 🤷🏻‍♂️

    P.S.: The image from last night that will stick with me the most is the bright smile on the face of the 13-year old (or so) kid next to me that got a tambourine from Ed (and on Ed's face when he saw that the kid caught it) - that boy, I assure you, will have a favorite band for the rest of his life, and did not complain about the 20 song (plus 3 tags) set list. But I'm sure there's someone out there that got a drumstick from Dave A in 1992, and that's so much more awesome than that.
    Post edited by Kloddz on
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  • LenzLenz Posts: 89
    we had a great time yesterday, thank you all. And I like shorter shows like 15/20+ years ago as well (almost feels a little retro).

    I don’t understand the complaints - especially those mentioned in the setlist thread. If somebody is bored from the PJ hits / classics most people who attend the shows are coming for, he/she should think of attending less shows. (listening to Bee Girl live never makes live experience better) 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 9,349
    You people who think dimi is anything  more than a fan are delusional.  He is me. You . And us . A fan nothing  more. Nothing  less . A guy from Greece giving  his opinion.  Not some insider just a guy like any of us. Just leave  him alone 
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  • severinlseverinl Posts: 9
    Lenz said:

    I think I stood directly behind you, when you took this pic... 
  • ChrisileinChrisilein Vienna/AustriaPosts: 3,854
    You people who think dimi is anything  more than a fan are delusional.  He is me. You . And us . A fan nothing  more. Nothing  less . A guy from Greece giving  his opinion.  Not some insider just a guy like any of us. Just leave  him alone 
    Exactly! We are sharing some great memories in the past! And it's always good to have him around when the "tour light switch" turns to "on". :)
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  • LenzLenz Posts: 89
    severinl said:
    Lenz said:

    I think I stood directly behind you, when you took this pic... 
    I took during the Opener/Release and then went back to Stone‘s side
  • timbo1972timbo1972 Posts: 300
    Set was shooter as they had support. Like a few years ago with MMJ and then X. Though the set list was good, Release as an opener is a favourite. You can be snotty about rarities and over use of Ten Tracks, but that’s but that’s a bit of elitism creeping in. On the night, band in great form, lots of interaction between them all, great solos and improv and a crowd that was up for it and didn’t leave early for transport. Top evening.
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  • kuenstnerkuenstner Zurich, CHPosts: 21
    edited June 25
    We were standing in the middle of the FOS area and had a wonderful time. There was enough space to dance and the overall vibe in our vicinity was awesome. Shoutout to the two guys from Milano we met - you're awesome, you know who you are :) . By swiss standards, the participation was really, really good  :D

    The sound quality was on-point and I thought Ed's voice sounded amazing. The band seems to have a lot of fun - Josh playing off of Jeff and Stone, Mike solo-duelling Boom, Ed signing stuff from fans in the first row during the show and taking requests for the shows to come ;)

    At the end, when Ed was throwing the tambourines, everybody surrounding the kid (who enjoyed the show on the shoulders of his father - you're a hero, man), were pointing at the kid until Ed saw it. He threw it and the kid caught it. Ed was visibly amazed - an awesome sight. Generally, everybody we met was really nice and welcoming - either queueing for the 10C tickets, during the hours before the show in the FOS area, or during the after-show beer.

    Despite the "short" setlist, it was again a breathtaking evening. You can easily forget what an amazing live band they are. I've seen a lot of shows from other artists and being able to spontaneously add a song mid-set (Animal), having such a high degree of variety in the setlists from show to show, or creating show-based artwork/shirts/stickers isn't something you see a lot these days. I think we sometimes forget, how spoiled we are  :p




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  • KevboeKevboe Posts: 1
    Would have loved to be there.  My wife and I had tickets to attend the original date for our 30th wedding anniversary.  But given schedules and challenges; couldn't pull it off.  Hope you all had a great time!
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  • fiofitzfiofitz Posts: 7
    edited June 26
    kuenstner said:
    At the end, when Ed was throwing the tambourines, everybody surrounding the kid (who enjoyed the show on the shoulders of his father - you're a hero, man), were pointing at the kid until Ed saw it. He threw it and the kid caught it. Ed was visibly amazed - an awesome sight.

    Such a lovely moment, and the other kid who caught a tambourine before - special moments :smile:

    We were in the middle of the FOS area too, the people around us were great - I love that no-one was going in and out to the bar or talking during the songs. Last time I saw them was Mad Cool Madrid when they also opened with Release, serious goosebumps.

    Thank you so much for the ticket
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