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    sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 1,440
    Of course Haley won D.C. The swamp creatures despise President Trump. Haley will stay in it as long as the Trump-haters are financing her. Good luck, suckers! See ya' Tuesday.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,283
    shecky said:
    Of course Haley won D.C. The swamp creatures despise President Trump. Haley will stay in it as long as the Trump-haters are financing her. Good luck, suckers! See ya' Tuesday.
    What’s to like about him? 000000
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    shecky said:
    Of course Haley won D.C. The swamp creatures despise President Trump. Haley will stay in it as long as the Trump-haters are financing her. Good luck, suckers! See ya' Tuesday.
    What’s to like about him? 000000

    Probably this...
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    ...because its easier for them the appreciate a fool who spouts nonsense and who incites their visceral reactionary nature than it is to actually have to do the work to understand what the above mentioned scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists tell us about what is really happening in the world and what needs to be done to make life better for us and the planet as a whole.  I really don't know how else to explain why anyone would like him at all.

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    VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,923
    "who incites their visceral reactionary nature".  Well written, brianlux.  From what I can tell, having several friends, fam, nearby communities that love Trump, he allows and emboldens their hatreds. Rather adolescently minded behavior if you ask me, but it is what it is, as they say.  Irrational hatred of the other is a hard thing to understand or compromise with.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    "who incites their visceral reactionary nature".  Well written, brianlux.  From what I can tell, having several friends, fam, nearby communities that love Trump, he as allows and emboldens their hatreds. Rather adolescently minded behavior if you ask me, but it is what it is, as they say.  Irrational hatred of the other is a hard thing to understand or compromise with.

    Spot on, V.  "allows and emboldens their hatred", exactly.  He's like  a gateway drug to their hatred, all so knew-jerk in nature.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,687
    will put this here but it applies across the board....

    Dan Rather adbook post....

      If I may, there’s something I need to get off my chest.

    As democracy remains under siege, it has been frustrating to watch how the press covers politics these days.

    I am reminded by lessons that came to me during the Nixon years as a CBS News correspondent, which I’ll add here:

    1. Enough with Both-sides-ism

    When one side lies intentionally and repeatedly, they are no longer entitled to the benefit of the doubt. They should be held to account, right away. Do not simply repeat the narratives they spew.

    2. Prioritize Live Fact-Checking

    Rigorous and robust fact-checking is the best defense against misinformation, intentional lies, and deflection.

    If Trump says the sky is green, the story isn’t that the sky is now green; the story is that the sky is still blue and Trump got it wrong.

    3. Ask Lawmakers Hard Questions

    Ask about the fundamental principles of democracy. Push them to go on the record that Biden won the 2020 election.

    Ask if they support the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    This writing is not to offer any claim of knowing it all. Your correspondent has made his share of mistakes, but after more than seven decades I believe I have picked up a few useful guideposts.

    Good journalism is always worth it. Our democracy depends on it.



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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    mickeyrat said:
    will put this here but it applies across the board....

    Dan Rather adbook post....

      If I may, there’s something I need to get off my chest.

    As democracy remains under siege, it has been frustrating to watch how the press covers politics these days.

    I am reminded by lessons that came to me during the Nixon years as a CBS News correspondent, which I’ll add here:

    1. Enough with Both-sides-ism

    When one side lies intentionally and repeatedly, they are no longer entitled to the benefit of the doubt. They should be held to account, right away. Do not simply repeat the narratives they spew.

    2. Prioritize Live Fact-Checking

    Rigorous and robust fact-checking is the best defense against misinformation, intentional lies, and deflection.

    If Trump says the sky is green, the story isn’t that the sky is now green; the story is that the sky is still blue and Trump got it wrong.

    3. Ask Lawmakers Hard Questions

    Ask about the fundamental principles of democracy. Push them to go on the record that Biden won the 2020 election.

    Ask if they support the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    This writing is not to offer any claim of knowing it all. Your correspondent has made his share of mistakes, but after more than seven decades I believe I have picked up a few useful guideposts.

    Good journalism is always worth it. Our democracy depends on it.



    For the rest of my list, please see my the latest post of my independent newsletter – you can subscribe with the link below in the comments.

    P.S. If you can afford it, please consider upgrading as well. It allows me to keep critical pieces like this free for those who cannot afford it, in an election season where we need everyone to see it. Thank you.


    One of our greatest journalists ever!  Thanks for posting this!
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    mickeyrat said:
    will put this here but it applies across the board....

    Dan Rather adbook post....

      If I may, there’s something I need to get off my chest.

    As democracy remains under siege, it has been frustrating to watch how the press covers politics these days.

    I am reminded by lessons that came to me during the Nixon years as a CBS News correspondent, which I’ll add here:

    1. Enough with Both-sides-ism

    When one side lies intentionally and repeatedly, they are no longer entitled to the benefit of the doubt. They should be held to account, right away. Do not simply repeat the narratives they spew.

    2. Prioritize Live Fact-Checking

    Rigorous and robust fact-checking is the best defense against misinformation, intentional lies, and deflection.

    If Trump says the sky is green, the story isn’t that the sky is now green; the story is that the sky is still blue and Trump got it wrong.

    3. Ask Lawmakers Hard Questions

    Ask about the fundamental principles of democracy. Push them to go on the record that Biden won the 2020 election.

    Ask if they support the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    This writing is not to offer any claim of knowing it all. Your correspondent has made his share of mistakes, but after more than seven decades I believe I have picked up a few useful guideposts.

    Good journalism is always worth it. Our democracy depends on it.



    For the rest of my list, please see my the latest post of my independent newsletter – you can subscribe with the link below in the comments.

    P.S. If you can afford it, please consider upgrading as well. It allows me to keep critical pieces like this free for those who cannot afford it, in an election season where we need everyone to see it. Thank you.


    mickeyrat ,  thanks again for posting this.  I am now subscribed to Dan Rather!

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    edited March 12
    An N.F.L. quarterback and a retired professional wrestler walk into a bar and are approached by a politician...

    (gifted article)
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    brianlux said:
    An N.F.L. quarterback and a retired professional wrestler walk into a bar and are approached by a politician...

    (gifted article)
    Jesse Ventura might make some sense in that he's a total 3rd party type. He's not a party-line voter and has philosophies across the spectrum. Plus he's more politically astute than most people realize and (I say this as a Minnesota native/resident) he legitimately did not govern for his own self and ambitions. He didn't care who he upset; he was going to do what he thought was right.

    When Rodgers got caught lying about the vaccination he declared himself a victim of the woke mob before anyone had time to react. He seems far better suited for MAGA. I would not be surprised if he's a MAGA candidate some day.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    OnWis97 said:
    brianlux said:
    An N.F.L. quarterback and a retired professional wrestler walk into a bar and are approached by a politician...

    (gifted article)
    Jesse Ventura might make some sense in that he's a total 3rd party type. He's not a party-line voter and has philosophies across the spectrum. Plus he's more politically astute than most people realize and (I say this as a Minnesota native/resident) he legitimately did not govern for his own self and ambitions. He didn't care who he upset; he was going to do what he thought was right.

    When Rodgers got caught lying about the vaccination he declared himself a victim of the woke mob before anyone had time to react. He seems far better suited for MAGA. I would not be surprised if he's a MAGA candidate some day.

    Yeah, I don't totally object to Ventura, I just think Kennedy can expect people to take him seriously with either of those two as running mates.  Perhaps he never really expected it to happen for him in the first place.  I saw an interview with him awhile back and he seemed like a pretty sharp guy, had some good ideas, etc.  But now... oh well, I have to vote for Biden in any case. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,625
    RFK and Tulsi are perfect examples of the horseshoe theory 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    mrussel1 said:
    RFK and Tulsi are perfect examples of the horseshoe theory 

    Fascinating.  I wasn't familiar with Horseshoe Theory, so looked it up.  Interesting!
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    mickeyrat said:

    Twice, I hope?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    mickeyrat said:
    Fuck Joe Pags. “Head and shoulders a better chief executive.” Good lord.
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    Swing states see newcomers as Americans move from blue to red counties

    Even a few movers crossing state lines could sway presidential vote totals in swing states.

    By: Tim Henderson, Stateline - April 4, 2024 4:25 am

    Voters casting ballots. (Mario Tama/Getty Images.)

    In recent years, millions of people across the United States have moved from Democratic cities to Republican suburbs, complicating the politics of swing states in a pivotal election year, according to a Stateline analysis.

    Republican suburban counties in four swing states — Georgia in the South and Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in the Midwest — gained the most new arrivals; heavily Democratic cities lost the most. In Western swing states Arizona and Nevada, meanwhile, the biggest people magnets have been slightly Democratic cities that are expected to be hotly contested.

    Those shifts reflect a nationwide trend: In Republican counties, as defined by the 2020 presidential vote, 3.7 million more people have moved in than have left since 2020, while Democratic counties had a net loss of 3.7 million, according to a Stateline analysis of U.S. Census Bureau estimates and county presidential election data kept by the University of Michigan.

    The U.S. Census Bureau estimates released in March included people who moved within the country between mid-2020 and mid-2023, a time of pandemic dislocations, lockdowns in big cities, and the rise of remote work that fed a search for affordable housing in less crowded and more scenic settings. Those settings, as it turns out, also tend to be more conservative. The census numbers do not include births or immigration.

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    From Heather Cox Richardson's letter today:

    Today, on ABC’s This Week, host George Stephanopoulos asked New Hampshire governor Chris Sununu about his recent switch from supporting former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley for the Republican presidential nomination to supporting former president Trump. 

    “Just to sum up,” Stephanopoulos said, “You support [Trump] for president even if he's convicted in [the] classified documents [case]. You support him for president even though you believe he contributed to an insurrection. You support him for president even though you believe he's lying about the last election. You support him for president even if he's convicted in the Manhattan case. I just want to say, the answer to that is yes, correct?”

    Sununu answered: “Yeah. Me and 51% of America.”


    Even if Sunununununu is wrong, the fact that so many people ARE behind the Orange Monster proves it...



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