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  • edwho
    edwho Posts: 811

    Google: Live at Benaroya Hall is a two-disc live album by the American alternative rock band Pearl Jam, recorded on October 22, 2003 at Benaroya Hall, Seattle, Washington and released on July 27, 2004 through BMG.

    ~

    My memory is it went on sale sometime in the late afternoon/early evening. The site crashed as it did a lot back then. I would guess some scored before the crash. I was tired and went to bed. Woke up in the middle of the night and checked the site to see how the sale played out. And there it was FOR SALE! $40.00 plus shipping. I think you know what happened next 😊


    my collection works for its keep.


    Three Fish

    July 1996 San Francisco

    June 1999 Chicago

  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,964
    cp3iverson said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    18 years later and the majority are probably still sealed.  That daily torture must be hard 
    I actually wonder how many still exist in great shape opened or sealed.  Over the years I’ve seen one copy listed that clearly survived a flood and looked unplayable.   Another that had the box eaten by a dog.   Someone once listed just LP3.   Those are the dramatic ones.  A lot have boxes that have taken normal wear and tear over the 18 years which is what you’d expect.  Most records I buy I don’t envision being worth $3k a decade or two later.  
    Mine is sealed. sigh... I embarrassed to say.  I was broke when I got it, and my record player, it was my grandparents, so they'd asked for it back, so I was between record players.  So I never got to spin it when I got it, and by the time I got a replacement player the thing was worth about $400 or $500 USD.   I was so broke, i'm like, I can't play that now.. that's my if everything goes bad fund.

    Now it's so many years later and my Financial Position is much better than it was in my 20s.   So really, there's no reason I shouldn't open it.  At this point.. I'm just waiting for a good or bad day where I need a boost or to celebrate, and I'll crack it open.  Part of me thinks it'll be bad luck, but I'm not getting any younger.  I need to play it :)
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    edited May 2022
    LOL....OP Here.  You vinyl guys crack me up.. You derailed my discussion.  :smiley:

    I was simply appreciating the actual music.

    P.S. I was listening to a digital (flac) version


    Post edited by KV4053 on
    I know I was born and I know that I'll die. The in between is mine.
  • edwho
    edwho Posts: 811

    I listen to the CD all the time. Acoustic Pearl Jam makes me happy. One of my favorites on Benny is Man Of The Hour. A most beautiful version.  

    Three Fish

    July 1996 San Francisco

    June 1999 Chicago

  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    Zod said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    18 years later and the majority are probably still sealed.  That daily torture must be hard 
    I actually wonder how many still exist in great shape opened or sealed.  Over the years I’ve seen one copy listed that clearly survived a flood and looked unplayable.   Another that had the box eaten by a dog.   Someone once listed just LP3.   Those are the dramatic ones.  A lot have boxes that have taken normal wear and tear over the 18 years which is what you’d expect.  Most records I buy I don’t envision being worth $3k a decade or two later.  
    Mine is sealed. sigh... I embarrassed to say.  I was broke when I got it, and my record player, it was my grandparents, so they'd asked for it back, so I was between record players.  So I never got to spin it when I got it, and by the time I got a replacement player the thing was worth about $400 or $500 USD.   I was so broke, i'm like, I can't play that now.. that's my if everything goes bad fund.

    Now it's so many years later and my Financial Position is much better than it was in my 20s.   So really, there's no reason I shouldn't open it.  At this point.. I'm just waiting for a good or bad day where I need a boost or to celebrate, and I'll crack it open.  Part of me thinks it'll be bad luck, but I'm not getting any younger.  I need to play it :)
    I’m convinced that story is the norm

    Observation has shown me it’s easier to buy a sealed one than an open one too.  It’s overwhelmingly sealed when they go up for sale

    id be pretty pissed if I waited 18 years and I’ve got a pressing defect or a missing LP or something. Sealed it’s always perfect 
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    I feel like all I’m seeing are opened ones on discogs.  
  • Flavafraz
    Flavafraz Pennsylvania Posts: 422
    Maybe if we keep bombarding 10c they will repress it instead of others making thousands on after market. They seem to be repressing a lot of stuff 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    RS65573 said:
    I think it is helpful to provide a method to listen to this that doesn't include dropping $3k. It is not the same, but it is close and almost free.
    I never said another method wasn’t useful or even enjoyable. I also respected your opinion that it is the “same”. This is a message board filled with varying opinions. Although I own an OG, I am a proponent of a reissue of this record so that more folks can experience the concert on vinyl.
    To my ears, the gig sounds best on the wax.
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 763
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    RS65573 said:
    I think it is helpful to provide a method to listen to this that doesn't include dropping $3k. It is not the same, but it is close and almost free.
    I never said another method wasn’t useful or even enjoyable. I also respected your opinion that it is the “same”. This is a message board filled with varying opinions. Although I own an OG, I am a proponent of a reissue of this record so that more folks can experience the concert on vinyl.
    To my ears, the gig sounds best on the wax.
    Black repress, please. Original retains value and everybody is happy. 
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 763
    I like what they did with RVM. First pressing is still valuable. 
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    AW124797 said:
    I like what they did with RVM. First pressing is still valuable. 
    Wasn’t that the record label pushing the reissues. I would think they can do whatever they want.

    benny vinyl was an in house thing I thought. The CD was BMG though. Getting more than one vault per year seems logistically hard for them. Not that I’m opposed to it I would just rather get live stuff on vinyl that hasn’t been on vinyl before rather than going back and reissuing stuff.  
    A benny reissue that doesn’t impact vault releases is good with me 
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    KV4053 said:
    LOL....OP Here.  You vinyl guys crack me up.. You derailed my discussion.  :smiley:

    I was simply appreciating the actual music.

    P.S. I was listening to a digital (flac) version


    Pull it out a paper sleeve
    Oh my joy only you deserve conceit
    Oh I'm so big and my whole world 
    I'd rather you,     rather you, than her

    Of course, us vinyl guys, it is 4mm rice paper anti-static sleeves.
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    KV4053 said:
    LOL....OP Here.  You vinyl guys crack me up.. You derailed my discussion.  :smiley:

    I was simply appreciating the actual music.

    P.S. I was listening to a digital (flac) version


    I’ve never figured out how to get it digitally (non CD).  I have the CD and I haven’t had a CD drive on a computer for at least a decade so I can’t rip it either. It’s on in the car which is literally my only CD player… and it’s the only CD I (still) own 😂
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    edited May 2022
    Cropduster-80 said:
    KV4053 said:
    LOL....OP Here.  You vinyl guys crack me up.. You derailed my discussion.  :smiley:

    I was simply appreciating the actual music.

    P.S. I was listening to a digital (flac) version


    I’ve never figured out how to get it digitally (non CD).  I have the CD and I haven’t had a CD drive on a computer for at least a decade so I can’t rip it either. It’s on in the car which is literally my only CD player… and it’s the only CD I (still) own 😂
    I ripped all my CDs...700+ a few years ago.  
    I know I was born and I know that I'll die. The in between is mine.
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    KV4053 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    KV4053 said:
    LOL....OP Here.  You vinyl guys crack me up.. You derailed my discussion.  :smiley:

    I was simply appreciating the actual music.

    P.S. I was listening to a digital (flac) version


    I’ve never figured out how to get it digitally (non CD).  I have the CD and I haven’t had a CD drive on a computer for at least a decade so I can’t rip it either. It’s on in the car which is literally my only CD player… and it’s the only CD I (still) own 😂
    I ripped all my CDs...700+ a few years ago.  
    Yeah, doing that before CD drives became obsolete would have been smart 
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    edited May 2022
    Cropduster-80 said:
    KV4053 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    KV4053 said:
    LOL....OP Here.  You vinyl guys crack me up.. You derailed my discussion.  :smiley:

    I was simply appreciating the actual music.

    P.S. I was listening to a digital (flac) version


    I’ve never figured out how to get it digitally (non CD).  I have the CD and I haven’t had a CD drive on a computer for at least a decade so I can’t rip it either. It’s on in the car which is literally my only CD player… and it’s the only CD I (still) own 😂
    I ripped all my CDs...700+ a few years ago.  
    Yeah, doing that before CD drives became obsolete would have been smart 
    https://smile.amazon.com/Rioddas-External-Portable-Rewriter-Superdrive/dp/B07DLRG9VH

    More choices
    https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=pc+cd+external&crid=2PE9V6GXZH1TK&sprefix=pc+cd+external,aps,74&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

    Thank me later
    Post edited by KV4053 on
    I know I was born and I know that I'll die. The in between is mine.
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 763
    Cropduster-80 said:
    AW124797 said:
    I like what they did with RVM. First pressing is still valuable. 
    Wasn’t that the record label pushing the reissues. I would think they can do whatever they want.

    benny vinyl was an in house thing I thought. The CD was BMG though. Getting more than one vault per year seems logistically hard for them. Not that I’m opposed to it I would just rather get live stuff on vinyl that hasn’t been on vinyl before rather than going back and reissuing stuff.  
    A benny reissue that doesn’t impact vault releases is good with me 
    I think it's just a matter of time. Benny repress will come at some point. Seems like our complaints and wishes are being followed by 10C - finally vault #1 on vinyl, vault#2 still in the shop after negativity caused by v1 being limited and clear No Code back in stock. 

    Lost Dogs, Drop In The Park, Into The Wild are next. Live On Two Legs is out in three weeks. Ukulele out recently. Represses, new RSDs and a new Vault once a year seem to be a pattern here. Benny repress won't impact anything new, in my opinion. 
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    AW124797 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    AW124797 said:
    I like what they did with RVM. First pressing is still valuable. 
    Wasn’t that the record label pushing the reissues. I would think they can do whatever they want.

    benny vinyl was an in house thing I thought. The CD was BMG though. Getting more than one vault per year seems logistically hard for them. Not that I’m opposed to it I would just rather get live stuff on vinyl that hasn’t been on vinyl before rather than going back and reissuing stuff.  
    A benny reissue that doesn’t impact vault releases is good with me 
    I think it's just a matter of time. Benny repress will come at some point. Seems like our complaints and wishes are being followed by 10C - finally vault #1 on vinyl, vault#2 still in the shop after negativity caused by v1 being limited and clear No Code back in stock. 

    Lost Dogs, Drop In The Park, Into The Wild are next. Live On Two Legs is out in three weeks. Ukulele out recently. Represses, new RSDs and a new Vault once a year seem to be a pattern here. Benny repress won't impact anything new, in my opinion. 
    If they are listening to wishes then really, don’t do a benny reissue at all. 

    do another one off acoustic show and record and release that.  As a companion album to Benaroya Hall. 
    Then it’s something new.  I’d take that every time over and album I’ve listened to 300 times 
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 763
    edited May 2022
    Cropduster-80 said:
    AW124797 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    AW124797 said:
    I like what they did with RVM. First pressing is still valuable. 
    Wasn’t that the record label pushing the reissues. I would think they can do whatever they want.

    benny vinyl was an in house thing I thought. The CD was BMG though. Getting more than one vault per year seems logistically hard for them. Not that I’m opposed to it I would just rather get live stuff on vinyl that hasn’t been on vinyl before rather than going back and reissuing stuff.  
    A benny reissue that doesn’t impact vault releases is good with me 
    I think it's just a matter of time. Benny repress will come at some point. Seems like our complaints and wishes are being followed by 10C - finally vault #1 on vinyl, vault#2 still in the shop after negativity caused by v1 being limited and clear No Code back in stock. 

    Lost Dogs, Drop In The Park, Into The Wild are next. Live On Two Legs is out in three weeks. Ukulele out recently. Represses, new RSDs and a new Vault once a year seem to be a pattern here. Benny repress won't impact anything new, in my opinion. 
    If they are listening to wishes then really, don’t do a benny reissue at all. 

    do another one off acoustic show and record and release that.  As a companion album to Benaroya Hall. 
    Then it’s something new.  I’d take that every time over and album I’ve listened to 300 times 

    I see your point, but I'd love to hear it on vinyl. It's a special show. How many of us had a chance to experience it? 1k, maybe? Most copies seem to be sealed.
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited May 2022
    AW124797 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    AW124797 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    AW124797 said:
    I like what they did with RVM. First pressing is still valuable. 
    Wasn’t that the record label pushing the reissues. I would think they can do whatever they want.

    benny vinyl was an in house thing I thought. The CD was BMG though. Getting more than one vault per year seems logistically hard for them. Not that I’m opposed to it I would just rather get live stuff on vinyl that hasn’t been on vinyl before rather than going back and reissuing stuff.  
    A benny reissue that doesn’t impact vault releases is good with me 
    I think it's just a matter of time. Benny repress will come at some point. Seems like our complaints and wishes are being followed by 10C - finally vault #1 on vinyl, vault#2 still in the shop after negativity caused by v1 being limited and clear No Code back in stock. 

    Lost Dogs, Drop In The Park, Into The Wild are next. Live On Two Legs is out in three weeks. Ukulele out recently. Represses, new RSDs and a new Vault once a year seem to be a pattern here. Benny repress won't impact anything new, in my opinion. 
    If they are listening to wishes then really, don’t do a benny reissue at all. 

    do another one off acoustic show and record and release that.  As a companion album to Benaroya Hall. 
    Then it’s something new.  I’d take that every time over and album I’ve listened to 300 times 

    I see your point, but I'd love to hear it on vinyl. It's a special show. How many of us had a chance to experience it? 1k, maybe? Most copies seem to be sealed.
    Mine is opened and love cranking it! I also don’t think as many copies remained sealed as you do. 

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