The Official 2023 Tour Rumor Thread

steven87

I’m putting in for the 2 MN and 2 Chicago shows. Any thoughts on how to rank them to maximize the number of shows I am selected for? I’m thinking the following: (1) Chicago 1, (2) MN 2, (3) MN 1, and (4) Chicago 2. I’m assuming I’ll have little to no chance with my third and fourth priorities, but would be happy to get two out of the four. 

Douglas12373

jwc6160 said:

Douglas12373 said:

check your junk mail, that's where mine went

Got it, thank you. It took a while to hit, but it did end up in junk. Now just to figure out how to make the show. These dates/locations are not ideal, but I hope to make one work. 

haha, me too, put in for Ft Worth because I have a friend who lives there. We'll see if I can pull it off

JBob87

steven87 said:

I’m putting in for the 2 MN and 2 Chicago shows. Any thoughts on how to rank them to maximize the number of shows I am selected for? I’m thinking the following: (1) Chicago 1, (2) MN 2, (3) MN 1, and (4) Chicago 2. I’m assuming I’ll have little to no chance with my third and fourth priorities, but would be happy to get two out of the four. 

I've been wondering the same thing. I would think MN 2 being the only Saturday show would make it a really tough ticket given its the easiest to travel to. I am not sure which of the 2 Chicago shows will be harder to get. I would have thought 2.

JeBurkhardt

I put in for both Chicago shows and Indy. I have both Chicago shows as 1 and 2, with Indy as 3. My thought process is that I am fine with getting lawn tickets for Indy, and those should be fairly easy to get even if I have to get them on F2F. 

Go Beavers

Go Beavers said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Go Beavers said:

PJINFLA said:

mattsavard said:

PJINFLA said:

Kiwi Jammer said:

Hey all, I'm looking at travelling over from NZ and have been following this thread with much interest and excitment!

I've read through things but have a question I'm hoping you guys can clarify, from what I can tell jumping on the lottery site there is no ranking/prioirtising of shows if you're putting in for multiple shows, is this correct and does that mean essentially equal odds of getting tickets to all shows you put in for?

Long way to come so hoping to max my chances :-) Cheers!

Kiwi Jammer said:

Hey all, I'm looking at travelling over from NZ and have been following this thread with much interest and excitment!

I've read through things but have a question I'm hoping you guys can clarify, from what I can tell jumping on the lottery site there is no ranking/prioirtising of shows if you're putting in for multiple shows, is this correct and does that mean essentially equal odds of getting tickets to all shows you put in for?

Long way to come so hoping to max my chances :-) Cheers!

There is a way to rank the shows you want to select which is important because the further down your rankings you go the odds drop substantially especially with only 9 shows. And yes it is best to pick less popular shows to enhance your chances in the lottery. Key word is lottery there are no guarantees of anything.

How, specifically does the ranking apply? 

The short answer is the higher you rank a show that you want tickets for the better your odds of getting tickets for that show. Odds of getting your 3rd or 4th pick drop substantially because you have a lower priority of getting those shows due to more people being in front of you in the lottery process.

Where are you seeing this?

"Ticket requests will be confirmed for each show taking your priority into consideration, but it is not guaranteed you will get your first priority"

That’s referring to priority of seating vs GA

I’m also willing to be wrong. 

fall by the wayside

Go Beavers said:

Go Beavers said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Go Beavers said:

PJINFLA said:

mattsavard said:

PJINFLA said:

Kiwi Jammer said:

Hey all, I'm looking at travelling over from NZ and have been following this thread with much interest and excitment!

I've read through things but have a question I'm hoping you guys can clarify, from what I can tell jumping on the lottery site there is no ranking/prioirtising of shows if you're putting in for multiple shows, is this correct and does that mean essentially equal odds of getting tickets to all shows you put in for?

Long way to come so hoping to max my chances :-) Cheers!

Kiwi Jammer said:

Hey all, I'm looking at travelling over from NZ and have been following this thread with much interest and excitment!

I've read through things but have a question I'm hoping you guys 

There is a way to rank the shows you want to select which is important because the further down your rankings you go the odds drop substantially especially with only 9 shows. And yes it is best to pick less popular shows to enhance your chances in the lottery. Key word is lottery there are no guarantees of anything.

How, specifically does the ranking apply? 

The short answer is the higher you rank a show that you want tickets for the better your odds of getting tickets for that show. Odds of getting your 3rd or 4th pick drop substantially because you have a lower priority of getting those shows due to more people being in front of you in the lottery process.

Where are you seeing this?

"Ticket requests will be confirmed for each show taking your priority into consideration, but it is not guaranteed you will get your first priority"

That’s referring to priority of seating vs GA

I’m also willing to be wrong. 

You have to order your shows by what priority you want them. When the lottery is conducted all who chose a certain show as first priority are handled first.  If there are tickets still available they then draw randomly from all those who had it as their second choice. And so on and so on. Previous tours have shown that for more popular shows, it is very unlikely tickets get beyond a first or second priority because of the volume of requests vs. number of tickets. It absolutely matters how you prioritize which shows you want. 

jdopj

fall by the wayside said:

Go Beavers said:

Go Beavers said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Go Beavers said:

PJINFLA said:

mattsavard said:

PJINFLA said:

Kiwi Jammer said:

Hey all, I'm looking at travelling over from NZ and have been following this thread with much interest and excitment!

I've read through things but have a question I'm hoping you guys can clarify, from what I can tell jumping on the lottery site there is no ranking/prioirtising of shows if you're putting in for multiple shows, is this correct and does that mean essentially equal odds of getting tickets to all shows you put in for?

Long way to come so hoping to max my chances :-) Cheers!

Kiwi Jammer said:

Hey all, I'm looking at travelling over from NZ and have been following this thread with much interest and excitment!

I've read through things but have a question I'm hoping you guys 

There is a way to rank the shows you want to select which is important because the further down your rankings you go the odds drop substantially especially with only 9 shows. And yes it is best to pick less popular shows to enhance your chances in the lottery. Key word is lottery there are no guarantees of anything.

How, specifically does the ranking apply? 

The short answer is the higher you rank a show that you want tickets for the better your odds of getting tickets for that show. Odds of getting your 3rd or 4th pick drop substantially because you have a lower priority of getting those shows due to more people being in front of you in the lottery process.

Where are you seeing this?

"Ticket requests will be confirmed for each show taking your priority into consideration, but it is not guaranteed you will get your first priority"

That’s referring to priority of seating vs GA

I’m also willing to be wrong. 

You have to order your shows by what priority you want them. When the lottery is conducted all who chose a certain show as first priority are handled first.  If there are tickets still available they then draw randomly from all those who had it as their second choice. And so on and so on. Previous tours have shown that for more popular shows, it is very unlikely tickets get beyond a first or second priority because of the volume of requests vs. number of tickets. It absolutely matters how you prioritize which shows you want. 

Exactly 

steven87

JBob87 said:

steven87 said:

I’m putting in for the 2 MN and 2 Chicago shows. Any thoughts on how to rank them to maximize the number of shows I am selected for? I’m thinking the following: (1) Chicago 1, (2) MN 2, (3) MN 1, and (4) Chicago 2. I’m assuming I’ll have little to no chance with my third and fourth priorities, but would be happy to get two out of the four. 

I've been wondering the same thing. I would think MN 2 being the only Saturday show would make it a really tough ticket given it’s the easiest to travel to. I am not sure which of the 2 Chicago shows will be harder to get. I would have thought 2.

I expect MN 2 and both Chicago shows to be a tough ticket. Given the limited number of shows, I’m guessing it’s going to be hard to get anything past priority 2 in the lottery (maybe other than Indy lawn). Fingers crossed we all get at least some of the shows we want in the lottery!

Poncier

Kevinman said:

Guess I was wrong.  It must have just been the increase in membership that made it harder to get tickets, it was never easy but less competition I guess.

Oh, it was easy up to say the 2003 tour.
Used to just mail in your requests and a money order, in the 90's your tix would be mailed to you, then starting in either 2000 or 2003 you picked them up at will call.

Kevinman

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Guess I was wrong.  It must have just been the increase in membership that made it harder to get tickets, it was never easy but less competition I guess.

Oh, it was easy up to say the 2003 tour.
Used to just mail in your requests and a money order, in the 90's your tix would be mailed to you, then starting in either 2000 or 2003 you picked them up at will call.

Guess, I was wrong again........it used to be easy.

D-Rod

Merkin Baller said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Hagrid7575 said:

So it looks like seniority now comes into play just to get tickets, not just seat placement?

if that’s the case, why would they even say the presale is open to folks who became Members by Wednesday? I mean those people will have zero shot, right?

I wish, I'd have a much better chance at securing tickets.  In actuality this is not how it works though, seniority only applies to seating now.

Seating has only ever applied to seating. The urban legend that seniority was used to determine who got tickets is just that. It's never helped anyone secure tickets, only get good seat location.

I think you're wrong..........the lottery was not always around.  I don't remember exactly how it was done before then, but pretty sure seniority had something to do with it. 

Pre lottery, there was an official on sale date and whoever could get through could secure tickets. There was no preference given to those w/ seniority. 

They switched to the lottery for 2013 IIRC when the servers kept crashing during the sales. 

That’s right.  I remember it crashing when trying to secure the Toronto shows in 2011

mace1229

Go Beavers said:

PJINFLA said:

Go Beavers said:

PJINFLA said:

mattsavard said:

PJINFLA said:

Kiwi Jammer said:

Hey all, I'm looking at travelling over from NZ and have been following this thread with much interest and excitment!

I've read through things but have a question I'm hoping you guys can clarify, from what I can tell jumping on the lottery site there is no ranking/prioirtising of shows if you're putting in for multiple shows, is this correct and does that mean essentially equal odds of getting tickets to all shows you put in for?

Long way to come so hoping to max my chances :-) Cheers!

Kiwi Jammer said:

Hey all, I'm looking at travelling over from NZ and have been following this thread with much interest and excitment!

I've read through things but have a question I'm hoping you guys can clarify, from what I can tell jumping on the lottery site there is no ranking/prioirtising of shows if you're putting in for multiple shows, is this correct and does that mean essentially equal odds of getting tickets to all shows you put in for?

Long way to come so hoping to max my chances :-) Cheers!

There is a way to rank the shows you want to select which is important because the further down your rankings you go the odds drop substantially especially with only 9 shows. And yes it is best to pick less popular shows to enhance your chances in the lottery. Key word is lottery there are no guarantees of anything.

How, specifically does the ranking apply? 

The short answer is the higher you rank a show that you want tickets for the better your odds of getting tickets for that show. Odds of getting your 3rd or 4th pick drop substantially because you have a lower priority of getting those shows due to more people being in front of you in the lottery process.

Where are you seeing this?

Mathematics 

I didn’t think it was a thing, and there’s no connection between the probability of getting tickets at one venue and the next. If you go for more shows, you increase your odds, but getting Minny tickets doesn’t decrease your odds for Chicago tickets, for example. 

The way it is supposed to work is everyone who put in a venue for #1 will get it before anyone who picks it as #2, and so on. 
SO for example, Chicago night 1, will be a lottery for all who picked it as their #1. If there's leftover tickets they'll do a lottery for all who selected it as #2. If there's leftover tickets there will be a lottery for all who selected it as #3, and so on.

So the higher you rank it drastically increases your odds of getting it. If it is anything like the 2018 and the 2020/2022 shows, you are all but guaranteed a ticket for your #1 pick (there's no MSG this round, so probably true).

CopperTom

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Guess I was wrong.  It must have just been the increase in membership that made it harder to get tickets, it was never easy but less competition I guess.

Oh, it was easy up to say the 2003 tour.
Used to just mail in your requests and a money order, in the 90's your tix would be mailed to you, then starting in either 2000 or 2003 you picked them up at will call.

Guess, I was wrong again........it used to be easy.

Taking days off of work to press F5 for an hour or two per show was the worst.  Win or lose, I appreciate the lottery.

Save Who

D-Rod said:

Merkin Baller said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Hagrid7575 said:

So it looks like seniority now comes into play just to get tickets, not just seat placement?

if that’s the case, why would they even say the presale is open to folks who became Members by Wednesday? I mean those people will have zero shot, right?

I wish, I'd have a much better chance at securing tickets.  In actuality this is not how it works though, seniority only applies to seating now.

Seating has only ever applied to seating. The urban legend that seniority was used to determine who got tickets is just that. It's never helped anyone secure tickets, only get good seat location.

I think you're wrong..........the lottery was not always around.  I don't remember exactly how it was done before then, but pretty sure seniority had something to do with it. 

Pre lottery, there was an official on sale date and whoever could get through could secure tickets. There was no preference given to those w/ seniority. 

They switched to the lottery for 2013 IIRC when the servers kept crashing during the sales. 

That’s right.  I remember it crashing when trying to secure the Toronto shows in 2011

That was brutal, I think it took my the better part of an afternoon at work nervously looking over my shoulder to get those.  Ah those were the days lol.

Merkin Baller

D-Rod said:

Merkin Baller said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Hagrid7575 said:

So it looks like seniority now comes into play just to get tickets, not just seat placement?

if that’s the case, why would they even say the presale is open to folks who became Members by Wednesday? I mean those people will have zero shot, right?

I wish, I'd have a much better chance at securing tickets.  In actuality this is not how it works though, seniority only applies to seating now.

Seating has only ever applied to seating. The urban legend that seniority was used to determine who got tickets is just that. It's never helped anyone secure tickets, only get good seat location.

I think you're wrong..........the lottery was not always around.  I don't remember exactly how it was done before then, but pretty sure seniority had something to do with it. 

Pre lottery, there was an official on sale date and whoever could get through could secure tickets. There was no preference given to those w/ seniority. 

They switched to the lottery for 2013 IIRC when the servers kept crashing during the sales. 

That’s right.  I remember it crashing when trying to secure the Toronto shows in 2011

Yup... After it crashed, they set up a presale through the Belle Centre or a Canadian ticket agent for Montreal, and gave us a passcode or link. 

It also crashed for EV's 2011 solo tour. IIRC correctly, we got a special presale for the Bushnell theater in Hartford, and I was able to select a second row pair of seats... that was pretty sweet. 

lisalamb

JBob87 said:

Gvn2fly said:

arwooten7 said:

Is the area around the United center in Chicago safe? I’m going solo and staying at the Hyatt house (thoughts?) AND I’m from Memphis so I’m used to a good ole car jacking or road rage shooting but I just don’t want to be murdered before the show 😂😅

No it is not safe around there.  Obviously they host events all the time such as Bulls games and other concerts in which most people make it around ok but do not get complacent there.  Do not be caught walking around out there, especially alone.  

Late to the party but have to chime in as this is a bit sensationalist.

The area around the Hyatt House specifically, the West Loop, is as safe as any major city in the US. It is bars, restaurants, condo buildings, and yuppies walking golden doodles. I would certainly recommend it over the most common tourist areas - the Loop around Millennium Park and the Magnificent Mile. That is where there have been issues with large gatherings of teenagers recently. I personally would advise against staying in those areas right now for that reason.

Agree that around the United Center, specifically to the west, is a bad area not somewhere you want to hang out. But if you are walking back on Madison after the show with huge group of people it will be fine. I probably average once a month making that walk and have never felt unsafe. 

Is the Marriott at Medical District/UIC in a questionable area/ not a place to hang out?

Merkin Baller

Save Who said:

D-Rod said:

Merkin Baller said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Hagrid7575 said:

So it looks like seniority now comes into play just to get tickets, not just seat placement?

if that’s the case, why would they even say the presale is open to folks who became Members by Wednesday? I mean those people will have zero shot, right?

I wish, I'd have a much better chance at securing tickets.  In actuality this is not how it works though, seniority only applies to seating now.

Seating has only ever applied to seating. The urban legend that seniority was used to determine who got tickets is just that. It's never helped anyone secure tickets, only get good seat location.

I think you're wrong..........the lottery was not always around.  I don't remember exactly how it was done before then, but pretty sure seniority had something to do with it. 

Pre lottery, there was an official on sale date and whoever could get through could secure tickets. There was no preference given to those w/ seniority. 

They switched to the lottery for 2013 IIRC when the servers kept crashing during the sales. 

That’s right.  I remember it crashing when trying to secure the Toronto shows in 2011

That was brutal, I think it took my the better part of an afternoon at work nervously looking over my shoulder to get those.  Ah those were the days lol.

CopperTom said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Guess I was wrong.  It must have just been the increase in membership that made it harder to get tickets, it was never easy but less competition I guess.

Oh, it was easy up to say the 2003 tour.
Used to just mail in your requests and a money order, in the 90's your tix would be mailed to you, then starting in either 2000 or 2003 you picked them up at will call.

Guess, I was wrong again........it used to be easy.

Taking days off of work to press F5 for an hour or two per show was the worst.  Win or lose, I appreciate the lottery.

1000% 

I never took a day off for ticket sales, but empathize with anyone who did only to have the server crash and have the sale pushed out a day or two. I definitely prefer the lottery. 

kbloxton

CopperTom said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Guess I was wrong.  It must have just been the increase in membership that made it harder to get tickets, it was never easy but less competition I guess.

Oh, it was easy up to say the 2003 tour.
Used to just mail in your requests and a money order, in the 90's your tix would be mailed to you, then starting in either 2000 or 2003 you picked them up at will call.

Guess, I was wrong again........it used to be easy.

Taking days off of work to press F5 for an hour or two per show was the worst.  Win or lose, I appreciate the lottery.





BUT for those that have OCD friends........tickets were a LOCK!   But yay, lottery is legit.  Win or lose.

JeBurkhardt

lisalamb said:

JBob87 said:

Gvn2fly said:

arwooten7 said:

Is the area around the United center in Chicago safe? I’m going solo and staying at the Hyatt house (thoughts?) AND I’m from Memphis so I’m used to a good ole car jacking or road rage shooting but I just don’t want to be murdered before the show 😂😅

No it is not safe around there.  Obviously they host events all the time such as Bulls games and other concerts in which most people make it around ok but do not get complacent there.  Do not be caught walking around out there, especially alone.  

Late to the party but have to chime in as this is a bit sensationalist.

The area around the Hyatt House specifically, the West Loop, is as safe as any major city in the US. It is bars, restaurants, condo buildings, and yuppies walking golden doodles. I would certainly recommend it over the most common tourist areas - the Loop around Millennium Park and the Magnificent Mile. That is where there have been issues with large gatherings of teenagers recently. I personally would advise against staying in those areas right now for that reason.

Agree that around the United Center, specifically to the west, is a bad area not somewhere you want to hang out. But if you are walking back on Madison after the show with huge group of people it will be fine. I probably average once a month making that walk and have never felt unsafe. 

Is the Marriott at Medical District/UIC in a questionable area/ not a place to hang out?

We have a room booked there. It seems pretty safe. It is surrounded by hospital buildings and only a short walk from the Blue line station.

CopperTom

kbloxton said:

CopperTom said:

Kevinman said:

Poncier said:

Kevinman said:

Guess I was wrong.  It must have just been the increase in membership that made it harder to get tickets, it was never easy but less competition I guess.

Oh, it was easy up to say the 2003 tour.
Used to just mail in your requests and a money order, in the 90's your tix would be mailed to you, then starting in either 2000 or 2003 you picked them up at will call.

Guess, I was wrong again........it used to be easy.

Taking days off of work to press F5 for an hour or two per show was the worst.  Win or lose, I appreciate the lottery.





BUT for those that have OCD friends........tickets were a LOCK!   But yay, lottery is legit.  Win or lose.

My success rate was higher with F5 method, however,  I still prefer the lottery.