The disappearance of singles from the live set

Spiritual_Chaos
Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,599
edited April 2022 in The Porch
In 2018 Sirens was played only once in Europe I think.
The Fixer is as good as forgotten by the band. The second single Got Some, when did that one show up last?
World Wide Suicide was an amazing staple for many years... where is it now?

Will Can't Deny Me show up this summer?


The death of singles live. The Fixer should obviously, without a doubt, never have been recorded or played. But other songs like WWS...how could they have been forgotten like this. Porch is still being dragged out at every show. Soon to be played twice per show I reckon. But Mind your Manners is gonna be all but gone this tour?

Whack. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,599
    Man how encouraging it was when PJ dropped this after The Fixer made you doubt everything good in the world. 

    https://youtu.be/NpbyGC1S6cc

    Such a great song live

    https://youtu.be/3Hy8n98Gtrs




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  • Force Of Nature
    Force Of Nature York, England Posts: 1,141
    I think they are just not good enough songs compared to others.
    Many of the Backspacer songs dont get much play after the specific tour, maybe Unthought Known gets a little more.
    WWS was played almost every night on their last huge world tour in 2006 and just doesnt stack up to older singles.

    The Ten/Vs/Vitalogy singles, plus the recent albums will always get their singles played, but post the album tour I guess they could be considered rarites.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Was Lightning Bolt a single? That song was meh at it's Wrigley debut in 2013 but has become fantastic live since. Hope it sticks around. 
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  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    I don't foresee Mind Your Manners going anywhere. They've gotta have something to play off that album. And Sirens sends a mass exodus to the bathrooms. So it's either that or Lightning Bolt.

    And please, no Can't Deny Me
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,925
    You would think your singles would/should be your best stuff from the album.....if that is still true and they ditch them after 1 tour,  shows you what they think of their current writing
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,133
    WWS is terrific live. Hope it finds its way back. 
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    hrd2imgn said:
    You would think your singles would/should be your best stuff from the album.....if that is still true and they ditch them after 1 tour,  shows you what they think of their current writing
    I think that's debatable. One could argue that your singles are the songs you think will sell the best. I know they didn't write it, nor was it on a studio album, but isn't "Last Kiss" still PJ's best-selling single? Hard pressed to say that's a better song than... Well, most of their catalogue.

    I think Mind Your Manners was played at every show in 2016 and 2018. Not sure that's going anywhere. Got Some was at Fenway 1 in 2018, and it comes out sporadically. I actually like Can't Deny Me, but I wouldn't mind if it disappeared from the regular rotation - I think it would be fun to hear the crowd shouting the chorus along with Ed in that quiet section, but 90% of the crowd either doesn't know the song or just isn't into it, so that doesn't happen.
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,024
    Free the cowbell!
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  • dcp3y
    dcp3y Louisville KY Posts: 848
    Nothing as it seems…
    You are…

    (more Binaural and Riot Act please)
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    dcp3y said:
    Nothing as it seems…
    You are…

    (more Binaural and Riot Act please)
    YES!!!!!
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    on2legs said:
    Free the cowbell!
    Yep. That's all that really needs to be said here people. 
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  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,961
    I'll take The Fixer over most songs on the last couple albums. I'll reserve my Gigaton song judgement until I see some of the songs live.  
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,993
    I love The Fixer. MYM, not so much. 


  • Celticskemba8
    Celticskemba8 Posts: 339
    Love The Fixer, Got Some and Sirens haha. Hopeful to see them for the first time on this tour and would kill to hear any of those.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,916
    I feel like Sirens is polarizing, half of people love it, and half of people can live without it.  It seems to suck the energy out of the crowd.  I'm ok with it not being played :)

    I love Mind Your Manners and they seem to still bust that one out.

    I feel like this isn't a matter of single.  They play plenty of singles from the earlier albums.

    I do wish they would start playing Who You Are again.   Time to go update my oakland request thread.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,842
    I'm in the minority. play more of your recent output live. including songs from LB and BS. I feel like the band likes where they are at musically over the last few albums, and seem to bring that energy to those songs. that's what I like. if the band really digs playing a song, that will translate live, and songs that were "meh" to you on wax jump out at you live. 

    I like when the band plays what they want. it makes for such a much better experience. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,842
    this inspired me to start a playlist:

    Backspacer
    Ole
    Lightning Bolt
    Get Back
    Gigaton
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    this inspired me to start a playlist:

    Backspacer
    Ole
    Lightning Bolt
    Get Back
    Gigaton
    Hot list right there! 
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  • Edved82
    Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,279
    The Fixer is great. I'd love to hear more from Binaural, Riot Act and Avocado on this tour. Particularly Grievance and Life Wasted.
    "...though my problems are meaningless....that don't make them go away...."
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,964
    The Fixer and Sirens sound great on the albums but I just don't think it translates live.  I've never really heard a good version of either in my opinion.  

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