Just When You thought Things Couldn't Get Worse in Texas

Bentleyspop
Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
edited March 2022 in A Moving Train
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  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Are you fucking kidding me?!?! 
  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    I voted for Beto this morning. 
  • I voted for Beto this morning. 
    Did you put an airtag on your ballot?
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    I voted for Beto this morning. 
    Did you put an airtag on your ballot?
    Ha!  
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,222
    Between this and the Ukraine situation I can’t help but to ask myself what year are we in? Seems like the world is devolving. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    Seems like there's a few people in texas who have some common sense....

    Dallas prosecutor says he won't charge families over transgender youth care

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/595645-dallas-prosecutor-says-he-wont-charge-families-over-transgender-youth
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    nicknyr15 said:
    Between this and the Ukraine situation I can’t help but to ask myself what year are we in? Seems like the world is devolving. 

    Well said, Nick.  It really feels like things are becoming unhinged.  I can never fully accept the cynical and pessimistic view that says we will never evolve away from hate and war to become a better creature, but I can also never fully dismiss it.  I am recently having a hard time feeling hopeful for humanity.  And I don't like feeling that way.
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  • @PJPOWER what is your take?

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  • mickeyrat
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    brianlux said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Between this and the Ukraine situation I can’t help but to ask myself what year are we in? Seems like the world is devolving. 

    Well said, Nick.  It really feels like things are becoming unhinged.  I can never fully accept the cynical and pessimistic view that says we will never evolve away from hate and war to become a better creature, but I can also never fully dismiss it.  I am recently having a hard time feeling hopeful for humanity.  And I don't like feeling that way.

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  • PJPOWER
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    @PJPOWER what is your take?

    Assessing.  
    Reading the text of the law (and not the statement about it from the twitter poster) it is specifically targeting certain “treatments”.  I haven’t studied them to know if they are safe or not, but do agree that exposing children to unsafe treatments could be conceived as child abuse.  On the other side, if they are proven safe and doctors feel it is the best option for a child’s medical and mental well being, then any treatment that promotes that should be allowed.
    This is a pretty controversial subject and my opinion is largely in agreement with this opinion piece from Newsweek:

    Finland and Sweden have largely stopped providing such medical interventions to trans-identified youth except in carefully controlled studies, not because of politics but because among the successes are poor results, like children with osteoporosis or increasing numbers of detransitioners who medically transitioned and regret it.”

    What is your take on Sweden doctors turning away from puberty blockers and what not?  A lot of doctors seem to have concerns about the safety of such treatments.
    I’m on the side of keeping children healthy and safe, not the politics of it or politicians that disregard those things.

    What are your thoughts on parents being allowed to “treat” gender dysphoria in utero (using tech such as CRISPR) if a predisposition is genetically identified?  I promise you, this is the way some of these topics will be addressed by some places in the near future (if not already).
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    There are so many things that I love about my home state, but this is an absolute fucking disgrace. I agree with  @nicknyr15 - it truly seems like humanity is circling the drain. 

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    Good.. 

    On Wednesday, the Biden administration announced that the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office for Civil Rights (OCR) will now use the weight of the law against attempts to restrict trans teens’ access to gender-affirming health care, as well as countering the threats to the health care professionals who provide it.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited March 2022
    This headline is so misleading.
    Did I miss something in this letter? According to what was posted not all trans children will be investigated, but only those who have undergone certain medical  procedures.

    “Greg Abbot has officially directed Family and Protective Services to begin investigating all trans children in Texas and prosecuting their parents as child abusers.”

    False. They are no investigating ALL families of trans gender kids. And the majority will not be the target for prosecution.

    “He has also instructed all teachers, doctors, and caregivers to begin reporting any trans students they see.”

    False. mandatory reporters are not required to report any trans students they see. Simply not true. They will be required to report if they have reason to believe an illegal procedure was performed.

    What Texas is doing is banning sex-altering surprises (*edit: this includes surgeries or any “surprise” that makes your genitalia spontaneously fall off) and similar procedures including those that remove body parts. 
    Most trans children do not receive sex confirmation surgery or hormones. And I would agree that some procedures and medications like that should require a minimum age. I don’t know what that age should be, 8, 12, 16, 18, I don’t know. But if we’re going to discus this topic let’s not start off with misleading titles that say parents of ALL trans children will be investigated and prosecuted. The truth is only a very small percentage will. 
    If I’m reading that title I’m thinking if I’m a dad who lets my daughter dress up like a boy and go to school, I’ll be investigated and prosecuted for abuse. That’s not what is happening.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    mace1229 said:
     sex-altering surprises 


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  • mace1229
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    edited March 2022
    Well, I guess that wasn’t wrong though. Sex altering surprises should be, and probably are. Illegal. Edited to correct the original post.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,213
    mace1229 said:
    Well, I guess that wasn’t wrong though. Sex altering surprises should be, and probably are. Illegal. Edited to correct the original post.

    What’s the source for your post? Link?
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  • mace1229
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    mace1229 said:
    Well, I guess that wasn’t wrong though. Sex altering surprises should be, and probably are. Illegal. Edited to correct the original post.

    What’s the source for your post? Link?
    The letter that was posted at the beginning of this thread for one. Google it if you want more.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,423
    edited March 2022
    the larger point is trans people are being targeted by the state government. focus should be there instead of a headline or whatever the fucking irrelevant point you make.
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