Earthlings production pales in comparison to

KV4053

Gigaton.

Gigaton is recorded so well. High dynamic range and incredible soundstage. Earthling is poorly recorded relatively speaking.

I'm talking about production quality only, not song craftsmanship

nicknyr15

Agree. Not a huge fan of gigaton but it SOUNDED amazing. This EV release sounds like shit to me. I’m not a fan of the poppy, glossed over sound. Chads drums sound terrible here. 

THEBIBLEISTEN

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nicknyr15

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

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Weirdo 

THEBIBLEISTEN

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Complainers

Weirdo 

Complainer and terrible at comebacks. Try again, that was a bad reply, I’ll let you try again. Please, try harder. 

nicknyr15

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Complainers

Weirdo 

Complainer and terrible at comebacks. Try again, that was a bad reply, I’ll let you try again. Please, try harder. 

You’re annoying. You’re unable of accepting other peoples opinion on music. It’s weird. Very weird. 

THEBIBLEISTEN

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Complainers

Weirdo 

Complainer and terrible at comebacks. Try again, that was a bad reply, I’ll let you try again. Please, try harder. 

You’re annoying. You’re unable of accepting other peoples opinion on music. It’s weird. Very weird. 

Ur just a complainer. Everything sounds like shit and terrible sound, bla bla bla. What records have you produced and how do you set up your drums to get the best sounds?  You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Andrew. 

halv

KV4053 said:

Gigaton.

Gigaton is recorded so well. High dynamic range and incredible soundstage. Earthling is poorly recorded relatively speaking.

I'm talking about production quality only, not song craftsmanship

My wife and I were saying the same thing earlier while listening to  the album. For lack of a better word it lacks oomph. It's missing the bottom end. 

Travels With

KV4053 said:

Gigaton.

Gigaton is recorded so well. High dynamic range and incredible soundstage. Earthling is poorly recorded relatively speaking.

I'm talking about production quality only, not song craftsmanship

I've seen a handful of posts like this.  Is there a way of explaining what you're hearing/listening to to the UNTRAINED ear?  Pretend like you're talking to a moron and explain it to me please.   I'm not disagreeing with you - I just honestly have no idea when folks get into production sound quality.  I would love to be educated.  And if it's one of those you just hear it, or you don't hear it situations ....then maybe just take EV's advice at the end of BTC (that's just me being "playful").

Spiritual_Chaos

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Complainers

Weirdo 

Complainer and terrible at comebacks. Try again, that was a bad reply, I’ll let you try again. Please, try harder. 

You’re annoying. You’re unable of accepting other peoples opinion on music. It’s weird. Very weird. 

Ur just a complainer. Everything sounds like shit and terrible sound, bla bla bla. What records have you produced and how do you set up your drums to get the best sounds?  You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Andrew. 

Stop being on a message board if you are unable to understand the concept of people having opinions. That is the very foundation of a message board.

So if you have not grasped that, or what it looks like - can't comprehend people not falling in line with your wonky opinions -- then you should start working on understanding that very basis of a discussion forum before logging on. 

Have you ever run a logistics business or a fanclub? You sound qualified with how much you have complained about the fanclub singles not arriving. You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Tim Bierman.

drakeheuer14

#irony 

nicknyr15

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Complainers

Weirdo 

Complainer and terrible at comebacks. Try again, that was a bad reply, I’ll let you try again. Please, try harder. 

You’re annoying. You’re unable of accepting other peoples opinion on music. It’s weird. Very weird. 

Ur just a complainer. Everything sounds like shit and terrible sound, bla bla bla. What records have you produced and how do you set up your drums to get the best sounds?  You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Andrew. 

Worst argument I’ve ever heard. And you use it all the time. Do you tell people this when they don’t like a movie that you enjoy? “Go make a better movie.. waaaahhh”. How old are you? 

nicknyr15

Spiritual_Chaos said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Complainers

Weirdo 

Complainer and terrible at comebacks. Try again, that was a bad reply, I’ll let you try again. Please, try harder. 

You’re annoying. You’re unable of accepting other peoples opinion on music. It’s weird. Very weird. 

Ur just a complainer. Everything sounds like shit and terrible sound, bla bla bla. What records have you produced and how do you set up your drums to get the best sounds?  You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Andrew. 

Stop being on a message board if you are unable to understand the concept of people having opinions. That is the very foundation of a message board.

So if you have not grasped that, or what it looks like - can't comprehend people not falling in line with your wonky opinions -- then you should start working on understanding that very basis of a discussion forum before logging on. 

Have you ever run a logistics business or a fanclub? You sound qualified with how much you have complained about the fanclub singles not arriving. You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Tim Bierman.

Exactly. Jeez, read through that singles thread if you want to see some top notch complaining and whining.  And I’m the complainer? I’m discussing the production on the new EV album. What a joke. 

Cropduster-80

I agree gigaton sounds better.  I don’t agree that it means earthling sounds bad as there are still a lot of PJ albums where the sound is comparatively worse.  Most of the reissues/remasters, self titled, probably LB off the top of my head.  

Haven’t really gotten too deep as to how it compares against the entire catalog but surely it’s in the top tier somewhere.  I’ve only listened to the Apple Music Atmos mix so far of Earthling though. 

THEBIBLEISTEN

Spiritual_Chaos said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Complainers

Weirdo 

Complainer and terrible at comebacks. Try again, that was a bad reply, I’ll let you try again. Please, try harder. 

You’re annoying. You’re unable of accepting other peoples opinion on music. It’s weird. Very weird. 

Ur just a complainer. Everything sounds like shit and terrible sound, bla bla bla. What records have you produced and how do you set up your drums to get the best sounds?  You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Andrew. 

Stop being on a message board if you are unable to understand the concept of people having opinions. That is the very foundation of a message board.

So if you have not grasped that, or what it looks like - can't comprehend people not falling in line with your wonky opinions -- then you should start working on understanding that very basis of a discussion forum before logging on. 

Have you ever run a logistics business or a fanclub? You sound qualified with how much you have complained about the fanclub singles not arriving. You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Tim Bierman.

Dude, ur the biggest complainer on these boards. Every thread you are bashing or being negative or just complaining. I just like calling you out because it seems like all your comments are miserable. Do you like anything or say anything positive? I didn’t know you were an expert at being perfect. Your comments are just sad. Try and find something positive instead of bashing everything. Lots of people calling you out. Really, it’s 1991 anymore, time to grow. 

Spiritual_Chaos

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

nicknyr15 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Complainers

Weirdo 

Complainer and terrible at comebacks. Try again, that was a bad reply, I’ll let you try again. Please, try harder. 

You’re annoying. You’re unable of accepting other peoples opinion on music. It’s weird. Very weird. 

Ur just a complainer. Everything sounds like shit and terrible sound, bla bla bla. What records have you produced and how do you set up your drums to get the best sounds?  You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Andrew. 

Stop being on a message board if you are unable to understand the concept of people having opinions. That is the very foundation of a message board.

So if you have not grasped that, or what it looks like - can't comprehend people not falling in line with your wonky opinions -- then you should start working on understanding that very basis of a discussion forum before logging on. 

Have you ever run a logistics business or a fanclub? You sound qualified with how much you have complained about the fanclub singles not arriving. You sound qualified, just wondering your techniques so I can pass it along to Tim Bierman.

Dude, ur the biggest complainer on these boards. Every thread you are bashing or being negative or just complaining. I just like calling you out because it seems like all your comments are miserable. Do you like anything or say anything positive? I didn’t know you were an expert at being perfect. Your comments are just sad. Try and find something positive instead of bashing everything. Lots of people calling you out. Really, it’s 1991 anymore, time to grow. 

Again, have you ever run a logistics business or a fanclub?

PB11041

Cropduster-80

Travels With said:

KV4053 said:

Gigaton.

Gigaton is recorded so well. High dynamic range and incredible soundstage. Earthling is poorly recorded relatively speaking.

I'm talking about production quality only, not song craftsmanship

I've seen a handful of posts like this.  Is there a way of explaining what you're hearing/listening to to the UNTRAINED ear?  Pretend like you're talking to a moron and explain it to me please.   I'm not disagreeing with you - I just honestly have no idea when folks get into production sound quality.  I would love to be educated.  And if it's one of those you just hear it, or you don't hear it situations ....then maybe just take EV's advice at the end of BTC (that's just me being "playful").

It’s sometimes subjective.  Low end for instance.  Some people adjust their speakers to reduce anyway so it’s a matter of preference.  Also depends on equipment as on a turntable sometimes a cartridge has different characteristics so the same album sounds slightly different.

I usually look for soundstage/separation as to the music having a wider more expansive sound vs everything being crammed together. Does the music sound good across the entire spectrum of sound, vocals balanced or to far forward or back.  Another big one is loudness.  Sometimes when you crank the volume up it sounds bad and it hurts your ears but a different album at the same volume level it’s enjoyable. 

At the end of the day I think it’s both objective and subjective opinions kind of combined.  If everyone is listening to the same source material on different equipment I’m sure that leads to different interpretations 

I’m by no means technically educated on this and a lot around here know a lot more of the technical differences.  I just tend to know what sounds good to me. It’s harder to explain why it sounds better or worse 

RP112579

PB11041 said:

Bingo.

2-feign-reluctance

It has a pop sheen! So slick the record might just fly off my table! Haha! Ed's channeling his 80s influences, and growing up in the 80s as a kid, I can dig it! 

Merkin Baller

PB11041 said:

lol