Ukraine

DE4173 · March 13

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

The clip from them is invalid?

Huh?

Anyway, what's the point of you posting that? Because Cheney endorsed Harris and Harris supported Ukraine's freedom now I should be against Ukraine's freedom?

Because the source, Jacobian, seemed to have been a distraction from the content of the article.

No. I found the touting of his endorsement embarrassing. Dick Cheney is a war criminal, etc. He's not backing Trump, he's backing us!

So what? Do I adjust my principles because of that? Maybe Dick Cheney got something right rather than I got something wrong.

It's possible. It's not an endorsement that I would have heralded, but I wasn't running for office.

I sitll don't understand how that's on-topic for this thread. This isn't the Harris for POTUS thread.

All topics stay in their own thread.

DE4173 · March 13

Electric cars: Boooooo!!!!!
Dick Cheney: Yay!!!

What a time to be alive

Merkin Baller · March 13

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

The clip from them is invalid?

Huh?

Anyway, what's the point of you posting that? Because Cheney endorsed Harris and Harris supported Ukraine's freedom now I should be against Ukraine's freedom?

Because the source, Jacobian, seemed to have been a distraction from the content of the article.

No. I found the touting of his endorsement embarrassing. Dick Cheney is a war criminal, etc. He's not backing Trump, he's backing us!

So what? Do I adjust my principles because of that? Maybe Dick Cheney got something right rather than I got something wrong.

It's possible. It's not an endorsement that I would have heralded, but I wasn't running for office.

I sitll don't understand how that's on-topic for this thread. This isn't the Harris for POTUS thread.

It makes sense if you don't think about it.

mrussel1 · March 13

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

The clip from them is invalid?

Huh?

Anyway, what's the point of you posting that? Because Cheney endorsed Harris and Harris supported Ukraine's freedom now I should be against Ukraine's freedom?

Because the source, Jacobian, seemed to have been a distraction from the content of the article.

No. I found the touting of his endorsement embarrassing. Dick Cheney is a war criminal, etc. He's not backing Trump, he's backing us!

So what? Do I adjust my principles because of that? Maybe Dick Cheney got something right rather than I got something wrong.

It's possible. It's not an endorsement that I would have heralded, but I wasn't running for office.

I sitll don't understand how that's on-topic for this thread. This isn't the Harris for POTUS thread.

All topics stay in their own thread.

Every post makes less sense.

DE4173 · March 13

josevolution · March 13

wtf does Cheney endorsing KH last election have anything to do with current events in Ukraine?

DE4173 · March 13

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

So Russia rejects the cease fire deal....queue trump blaming Ukraine

First the US pushes Ukraine into being invaded by Russia, and now the US pushed Ukraine into having Russia reject the ceasefire.

Dick Cheney, you guys. SMH

tbergs · March 13

DE4173 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

So Russia rejects the cease fire deal....queue trump blaming Ukraine

First the US pushes Ukraine into being invaded by Russia, and now the US pushed Ukraine into having Russia reject the ceasefire.

Dick Cheney, you guys. SMH

Obviously tongue in cheek after Shadows came around spouting about it the other day.

Merkin Baller · March 13

josevolution said:

wtf does Cheney endorsing KH last election have anything to do with current events in Ukraine?

It's all RW nonsense.

See the 5th comment down on the previous page. It makes zero sense, hence my comment at the top of this page. Anyone having a conversation in good faith would recognize that.

OnWis97 · March 13

We should be nervous about WWIII. The people whose accusations are usually confessions have been talking about it a lot.

DE4173 · March 13

tbergs said:

DE4173 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

So Russia rejects the cease fire deal....queue trump blaming Ukraine

First the US pushes Ukraine into being invaded by Russia, and now the US pushed Ukraine into having Russia reject the ceasefire.

Dick Cheney, you guys. SMH

Obviously tongue in cheek after Shadows came around spouting about it the other day.

Understood. Thanks!

BF25394 · March 13

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

Pearl Jam anti war who would of thought it 🤣🤣🤣

I think it's fair to say that Pearl Jam is/was anti-proactive war, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, where the impetus was the false accusations of WMD, and it was more about nation building along with extracting resources from the region. Is EV and the crew anti-sovereignty? Are they anti-defense? No, I would think not and for the poster to say that they are because a flag is off something is absurd. Did they just decide that...Okay this is taking way too long I guess Ukraine no longer deserves to be a free country. Absurd conclusion by our local Vichy.

I wouldn't lump the Afghanistan and Iraq wars together as "proactive" wars. The Afghanistan war targeted the Taliban, which had given safe harbor to Al Qaeda, which had attacked the U.S. on September 11, 2001. The Iraq war was based on false pretenses about WMDs and ginned-up false connections to the September 11 attacks. The Afghanistan war was justified but poorly executed. The Iraq war was unjustified and poorly executed.

BF25394 · March 13

shadowcast said:

Merkin Baller said:

shadowcast said:

Hopped back on here and man the war machined keeps turning on this thread. Man have you all lost your minds? Pearl Jam doesn't even have the Ukraine flag anymore in their profile.....Hint, Hint.....they are antiwar.

It's good to know you would let anyone come into your house and take whatever they want because you're antiwar

To think it was as simple as Putin just decided on a whim to attack Ukraine is dangerous and reckless at best. There have been multiple peace deals turned down by the United States (I say US becasue Ukraine has been manipulated into this by America) in regards to this. Russia was building troops on the boarder for a month you would have thought that they would have struck a deal then. But no the US (Biden administration) pushed Ukraine into this and now we are teetering on WW3. You also had the Minsk agreements. NATO continues to surround Russia and poke the bear to a point where we are at now. Tell me what would the US do if Canada decided to let China put bases there? Also to think the US military heads are just is laughable. I go to bed easy at night knowing I am not on the side of Dick Cheaney. Most of you have to live with that. That you and Dick and all the war hawks see eye to eye on this. You've been fooled again by the military industrial complex. Wake up!!!! This is the new 15 year war that replaced all the hell we caused in the middle east. Would you send your kids to fight in a war for Ukraine?

This is ahistorical nonsense. Of course this didn't happen on a whim. Putin was aiming to do this for years. He went into Crimea in 2014, waiting to do it until after the Sochi Olympics were over. He invaded eastern Ukraine in 2022, waiting to do it until after the Beijing Olympics were over. It's all calculated, and it has been his dream since the Soviet Union broke apart. He has stated this publicly. He also baldfacedly lied about those troops massed on the eastern border of Ukraine not being an invasion force.

mickeyrat · March 13

https://www.threads.net/@mil.in.ua_en/post/DHJXVCrIBze?xmt=AQGzeDekiLuIvWu-uwQnIQ9IdbMDG5YYNzA94I4xh0KwjQ

🇸🇪 Sweden has signed a contract to produce and supply 18 Archer self-propelled artillery systems and 5 ARTHUR counter-battery radars to Ukraine.

The deal is worth about $300 million and is part of the 18th package of military assistance to Ukraine.

👇🏻Full news: https://mil.in.ua/en/news/sweden-to-transfer-18-archer-self-propelled-guns-and-5-arthur-counter-battery-radars-to-ukraine/

mickeyrat · March 13

https://www.threads.net/@kyivpost.official/post/DHI_F6-MPIC?xmt=AQGzMsfiODQAJDgwx1HVjIHWFYEg1AtD6QnkNNRh49OK1w

Ukrainian drones have hit a secret Russian drone assembly plant in the Kaluga Region, an intelligence source told Kyiv Post.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/48846

mickeyrat · March 14

Former 🇺🇸 ambassador to Russia 👇🏽

mickeyrat · March 14

pics in the post....

https://www.threads.net/@kyivpost.official/post/DHMLlPAI6A4?xmt=AQGzovgZb2vT5sn2mtjNIJh7VTOj3goY5EYjb_g5dY-A7A

The whole world has seen what Russian captivity does to Ukrainian soldiers. Those lucky enough to return — exhausted, broken, barely alive. Their bodies scarred by torture. Their eyes have seen real hell.

Putin isn’t offering them life. He’s offering them a slow, agonizing death.

mickeyrat · March 14

https://www.threads.net/@globalobserverx/post/DHLvK34RAi2?xmt=AQGzNjGAKlVW-QR62fWStSeiJ13uj_x4G2KA8WVIUBMStg

The incoming German Chancellor Friedrich Merz is about to announce the transfer of German Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine. -Spiegel

Taurus has a larger warhead & longer range (500 kg & 500+ km) than the UK/French Storm Shadow cruise missiles currently used by Ukraine.

Previous chancellor bundeskanzler refused to supply them.

mickeyrat · March 14

https://www.threads.net/@joellawsondc/post/DHMLDgqJEA4?xmt=AQGzblrk7g_LzYXUxpT5o6gD8NibCIWiLTXko9jne_OovA

- Trump tosses MORE candy at Putin before a deal is signed. This one helps Kremlin figures avoid war crimes trials:
- “The State Department has quietly terminated a contract that was in the process of transferring evidence of alleged Russian abductions of Ukrainian children—a potential war crime—to law enforcement officials in Europe, two people familiar with the situation tell The New Republic.”
https://newrepublic.com/article/192790/trump-kidnapped-ukrainian-kids-nixed-contract

mickeyrat · March 14

https://www.threads.net/@thestudyofwar/post/DHLuzj7xE2s?xmt=AQGzA350Uo4cNY1JVnZb-GdaIx84FLgW-PH7sVVWUdH_4g

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 13, 2025: Russian President Vladimir Putin rejected the ceasefire proposal that the United States and Ukraine recently agreed upon in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia and offered an alternative proposal that undermines US President Donald Trump's stated goal of securing a lasting peace in Ukraine. 1/5

Read More: https://isw.pub/UkrWar031325

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