Viruses / Vaccines 2

23scidoo

mickeyrat said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

I agree . In real time it was all terrifying and I actually think the social distancing and mask were the most sensible thing we could have done. It makes absolute sense with an airborne virus. No doubt

very sense R, to wash your hands for an airborne virus as you said..no doubt at all..also you can have it at 1.95m but not at 2.05 m..
and again, WHATEVER they say, we were right..

It was a guide, for Christ's sake.  You have to pick a number.  

We are talking about roulette here??..

were you harmed by standing x distance from someone? no? then move on. just do it at least 6 ft from me.

i will keep 10 ft if i meet you..maybe other things are transmitted..

23scidoo

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

He and I had the vaccines

They are keep thinking i'm antivaxxer here for long time now..so hilarious 😂 HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

I agree . In real time it was all terrifying and I actually think the social distancing and mask were the most sensible thing we could have done. It makes absolute sense with an airborne virus. No doubt

very sense R, to wash your hands for an airborne virus as you said..no doubt at all..also you can have it at 1.95m but not at 2.05 m..
and again, WHATEVER they say, we were right..

can't wait to see where you're research is published. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/exclusive-former-top-public-health-official-admits-covid-origins-not-settled-no-science-to-back-social-distance-guidance/

Do you see??..are you just know to post memes??..and i'm waiting an answer for my other question about scientists..
won't hold my breath anyway..

mickeyrat

23scidoo said:

mickeyrat said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

I agree . In real time it was all terrifying and I actually think the social distancing and mask were the most sensible thing we could have done. It makes absolute sense with an airborne virus. No doubt

very sense R, to wash your hands for an airborne virus as you said..no doubt at all..also you can have it at 1.95m but not at 2.05 m..
and again, WHATEVER they say, we were right..

It was a guide, for Christ's sake.  You have to pick a number.  

We are talking about roulette here??..

were you harmed by standing x distance from someone? no? then move on. just do it at least 6 ft from me.

i will keep 10 ft if i meet you..maybe other things are transmitted..

unfortunately common sense isnt contagious

23scidoo

mickeyrat said:

23scidoo said:

mickeyrat said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

I agree . In real time it was all terrifying and I actually think the social distancing and mask were the most sensible thing we could have done. It makes absolute sense with an airborne virus. No doubt

very sense R, to wash your hands for an airborne virus as you said..no doubt at all..also you can have it at 1.95m but not at 2.05 m..
and again, WHATEVER they say, we were right..

It was a guide, for Christ's sake.  You have to pick a number.  

We are talking about roulette here??..

were you harmed by standing x distance from someone? no? then move on. just do it at least 6 ft from me.

i will keep 10 ft if i meet you..maybe other things are transmitted..

unfortunately common sense isnt contagious

Scientific proven??..

mickeyrat

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

I agree . In real time it was all terrifying and I actually think the social distancing and mask were the most sensible thing we could have done. It makes absolute sense with an airborne virus. No doubt

very sense R, to wash your hands for an airborne virus as you said..no doubt at all..also you can have it at 1.95m but not at 2.05 m..
and again, WHATEVER they say, we were right..

It was a guide, for Christ's sake.  You have to pick a number.  

We are talking about roulette here??..

were you harmed by standing x distance from someone? no? then move on. just do it at least 6 ft from me.

Because this is America and I should be able to stand 5'8" away

I would accept 5' 11"......

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

A lot of the criticism I hear, and sometimes agree with, comes from the pointlessness of some of the regulations, how they were enforced, and the hypocrisy behind some of the laws.
Parks were closed, the local news at the time reported a dad being arrested because he was playing catch with his son at an empty park. I doubt they followed through with any charges, but still. I remember a guy paddle boarding in the ocean got ticketed. Kids had to wear masks outside during school, and still expected to participate in PE.
I remember a restaurant in LA posting pictures of his shop being closed down, but in his parking lot they were filming a show and had tons of pop up tents serving food to all the crew. The decision on what to lose and when seems about as random as what plays in MLB are reviewable. What made some stores "essential" and others not seemed just as random. Then you have public officials going out and getting hair cuts and eating, going against their own laws they created. 
I don't expect everyone to be right 100% of the time. But I do expect some common sense. If you are asking people to social distance, maybe allow them to play in an open field. If you're going to close down a restaurant and tell them they can't social distance and will probably go out of business, maybe don't use the same area to allow film crews to gather in crowds. If you're going to tell people its not safe to get a hair cut, maybe don't get one yourself. 

those were decisions made by politicians, and yes, many of them were totally absurd. My local head physician had a press conference every single day with municipal and occasionally provincial government authorities; you could see in his face that he didn't want to be associated with many of the moronic decisions made by local authorities; he was being asked to justify these decisions, when it was clear he made recommendations and the authorities did something completely different or took it to absurd levels.

this is one of my main issues with all of this: people confusing or conflating the medical community with decisions made by politicians. 

HughFreakingDillon

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Why yoyr scientists are more scientists than a Nobel prize winner??
Why your scientists are more scientists from the Japanese proffesor at the Kyoto University??..
thank you..

so sorry to keep you waiting. I wasn't online this weekend. 

it's not about single nobel prize winners (Obama is a nobel prize winner too, remember-I don't get my medical advice from him). the old saying goes-you can be educated but a complete moron, and vice versa. I'm talking about peer review and general consensus. If 99.9% of the world's research community says one thing, I'm going with them. You wanna go with an extreme outlier, have at er. 

and I don't know why this has been turned into some sort of team sport. "your scientists"? I don't have any favourite scientists on any chemistry jersey. I don't know their names. Maybe you do. Let me know how far they go in the playoffs. 

Merkin Baller

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

Parks were closed, the local news at the time reported a dad being arrested because he was playing catch with his son at an empty park.

The park was closed? 

mrussel1

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

Parks were closed, the local news at the time reported a dad being arrested because he was playing catch with his son at an empty park.

The park was closed? 

And did he resist? No normal cop would flat arrest someone unless the refused to obey an order.  Or the story is wrong.

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

cblock4life said:

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

 Have I gotten the whole social media scheme twisted?  Are we not supposed to ask questions?  I asked 4 or 5 fairly simple questions and got 0 responses. Is this a comment only forum?  

To the non-vaccinated, non-mask people, all those non-believers of nurses crying and drs begging, etc, etc:

In your world, what exactly stoped the pandemic?  

Am I ever going to receive an answer?  Or shouldn’t I be asking? 

In their mind there was NO pandemic. 

Well of course.  How silly of me.  Thank you 

  Masks, distancing, vaccination, and the virus evolving to be less deadly led us through Covid. I support all of that. I was just pointing out we received a lot of misinformation along the way. And much of that (such as the 6 feet rule) I'm sure was said with good intentions. However this just causes more people to not trust anything the government says.  There will be WAY more pushback if we encounter a situation like covid again.

people need to realize that the medical community was learning how to deal with it in real time. that's incredibly difficult. to expect them to be right 100% of the time is absurd. they didn't lie (don't confuse the medical community with pharma and the government). they made best guesses. best guesses that they thought would be the least harmful to society while not allowing the virus to run rampant. A lot of it seems absurd in hindsight, but looking back, these were fallible humans with the world on their shoulders with unrealistic expectations put on them by all of humanity. so yeah, they were scrambling, and using even the tiniest bits of data they could analyze and make the best decisions based on that at the time. 

hilarious now that armchair pandemic experts think "we were right from the beginning". no they weren't. they were all broken clocks just being fucking babies during a global crisis when the rest of the adults were trying to actually deal with the severity of it. 

A lot of the criticism I hear, and sometimes agree with, comes from the pointlessness of some of the regulations, how they were enforced, and the hypocrisy behind some of the laws.
Parks were closed, the local news at the time reported a dad being arrested because he was playing catch with his son at an empty park. I doubt they followed through with any charges, but still. I remember a guy paddle boarding in the ocean got ticketed. Kids had to wear masks outside during school, and still expected to participate in PE.
I remember a restaurant in LA posting pictures of his shop being closed down, but in his parking lot they were filming a show and had tons of pop up tents serving food to all the crew. The decision on what to lose and when seems about as random as what plays in MLB are reviewable. What made some stores "essential" and others not seemed just as random. Then you have public officials going out and getting hair cuts and eating, going against their own laws they created. 
I don't expect everyone to be right 100% of the time. But I do expect some common sense. If you are asking people to social distance, maybe allow them to play in an open field. If you're going to close down a restaurant and tell them they can't social distance and will probably go out of business, maybe don't use the same area to allow film crews to gather in crowds. If you're going to tell people its not safe to get a hair cut, maybe don't get one yourself. 

again, don't confuse public orders enacted by public officials with the medical community. 

23scidoo

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Why yoyr scientists are more scientists than a Nobel prize winner??
Why your scientists are more scientists from the Japanese proffesor at the Kyoto University??..
thank you..

so sorry to keep you waiting. I wasn't online this weekend. 

it's not about single nobel prize winners (Obama is a nobel prize winner too, remember-I don't get my medical advice from him). the old saying goes-you can be educated but a complete moron, and vice versa. I'm talking about peer review and general consensus. If 99.9% of the world's research community says one thing, I'm going with them. You wanna go with an extreme outlier, have at er. 

and I don't know why this has been turned into some sort of team sport. "your scientists"? I don't have any favourite scientists on any chemistry jersey. I don't know their names. Maybe you do. Let me know how far they go in the playoffs. 

Who is the outlier??..this guy??..
https://rumble.com/v4sms6n-may-1-2024.html
Luc Montagnier is outlier??..

benjs

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Why yoyr scientists are more scientists than a Nobel prize winner??
Why your scientists are more scientists from the Japanese proffesor at the Kyoto University??..
thank you..

so sorry to keep you waiting. I wasn't online this weekend. 

it's not about single nobel prize winners (Obama is a nobel prize winner too, remember-I don't get my medical advice from him). the old saying goes-you can be educated but a complete moron, and vice versa. I'm talking about peer review and general consensus. If 99.9% of the world's research community says one thing, I'm going with them. You wanna go with an extreme outlier, have at er. 

and I don't know why this has been turned into some sort of team sport. "your scientists"? I don't have any favourite scientists on any chemistry jersey. I don't know their names. Maybe you do. Let me know how far they go in the playoffs. 

Who is the outlier??..this guy??..
https://rumble.com/v4sms6n-may-1-2024.html
Luc Montagnier is outlier??..

"This guy" is not the "UK's top oncologist", he's an oncology professor who has researched oncology. If he was a top oncologist (or even a top oncology official), he would write journal articles welcoming peer reviews instead of articles that get posted on "The Conservative Woman" (just look his name up on Google if you don't believe me). To me, that strips him of any credibility that his title affords him.

Next fun fact - he's conflicted! He founded a biotech company which develops cancer vaccines (now disbanded). He's a member of the medical board in another vaccine-interested company, Bionor Pharma. He's also on the scientific advisory board of Immodulon and has stock options in Immunor AS (another vaccine company).

Seems appropriate that he's also aligned with the UK Independence Party - the right-wing political group whose leader was Nigel Farage. 

This is who you trust over the mainstream? This is the guy you feel is being suppressed to hide a lie?

On Luc Montagnier, it sounds like the conclusion from Reuters is "bullshit", and that things that are being attributed to Montagnier, actually haven't been proven to be from him.

If you choose your sources with no discretion, concern for provenance or facts, and blatant disregard for mountains of evidence, you and Luc Montagnier and 'this guy' should enjoy your baseless fiction, and stop bringing it here where people DO care about the validity of a source, the provenance of quotes, and a preponderance of facts necessary to prove an argument one way or another.

mrussel1

Last I checked,  oncologist aren't viral disease experts.  Unless cancer is now contagious and I missed that somewhere 

lastexitlondon

Oncologist deals with cells and cells carry virus and vaccine. I have no idea what the above is all about but just saying 

Merkin Baller

lastexitlondon said:

Oncologist deals with cells and cells carry virus and vaccine. I have no idea what the above is all about but just saying 

oncology

A branch of medicine that specializes in the diagnosis and treatment of cancer. It includes medical oncology (the use of chemotherapy, hormone therapy, and other drugs to treat cancer), radiation oncology (the use of radiation therapy to treat cancer), and surgical oncology (the use of surgery and other procedures to treat cancer).

https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/oncology

mrussel1

lastexitlondon said:

Oncologist deals with cells and cells carry virus and vaccine. I have no idea what the above is all about but just saying 

So not a virologist.  

Halifax2TheMax

Fuck cancer.

benjs

mrussel1 said:

Last I checked,  oncologist aren't viral disease experts.  Unless cancer is now contagious and I missed that somewhere 

Well, you see, it all started with a 2 meter safe distancing restriction. Because that was false, and we're all sheep, this not-doctor's words must be true. Logic, right? Clear causal relationship, case rested!

23scidoo

The one has long hair, the other stinks, someone has a piercing and goes and goes..

mickeyrat

masks dont work...

https://www.threads.net/@linseycmarr/post/C7Wi5BJujeh/?xmt=AQGzw5K2POdGzVoJN1q4lu8tuP-4uD9zU-mj00EeAtsoUQ