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I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
www.RLMcDaniel.com

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1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
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2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,765
    edited November 2021
    Any of your local record stores sell new turntables? A few near me do and have some available right now.  Check that out near you.
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    mickeyrat said:
    Any of your local record stores sell new turntables? A few near me do and have some available right now.  Check that out near you.
    Good call. Thanks!
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 26,345
    No, that looks nicer than the AT I have....which I like.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    No, that looks nicer than the AT I have....which I like.
    Which do you have?
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • I have the ATLP120 with an Ortofon red and it sounds amazing. It’s the first pricey cart I have ever used and the quality blew my mind over any AT stock cart I have used. I also took time and set up the table properly for the first time using this tutorial. I was floored how much I didn’t know! 


    www.cluthelee.com
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 26,345
    No, that looks nicer than the AT I have....which I like.
    Actually I just looked and I believe that's the one you're looking for.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,875
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    I have the ATLP120 with an Ortofon red and it sounds amazing. It’s the first pricey cart I have ever used and the quality blew my mind over any AT stock cart I have used. I also took time and set up the table properly for the first time using this tutorial. I was floored how much I didn’t know! 


    Very cool. Thanks, Chris! 
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,765
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,875
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,875
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
    No, that actually makes sense. Like I said, if the sound quality is reduced by using Bluetooth, I doubt I’d use it anyway. I appreciate the advice. 
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NYPosts: 4,135
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
    No, that actually makes sense. Like I said, if the sound quality is reduced by using Bluetooth, I doubt I’d use it anyway. I appreciate the advice. 
    I don’t have a Bluetooth turntable, but my speakers have Bluetooth capability. They are connected to the turntable with wires so they are not portable. But I am also able to play songs off my phone or computer with them. They are Audioengine a5+. 

    From what I understand, a Bluetooth turntable is so you can copy your records on to a CD or flash drive using your computer. If that is what you want I don’t know anything about that. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,875
    GlowGirl said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
    No, that actually makes sense. Like I said, if the sound quality is reduced by using Bluetooth, I doubt I’d use it anyway. I appreciate the advice. 
    I don’t have a Bluetooth turntable, but my speakers have Bluetooth capability. They are connected to the turntable with wires so they are not portable. But I am also able to play songs off my phone or computer with them. They are Audioengine a5+. 

    From what I understand, a Bluetooth turntable is so you can copy your records on to a CD or flash drive using your computer. If that is what you want I don’t know anything about that. 
    No, the USB on the TT is so you can rip the vinyl.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,765
    mrussel1 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
    No, that actually makes sense. Like I said, if the sound quality is reduced by using Bluetooth, I doubt I’d use it anyway. I appreciate the advice. 
    I don’t have a Bluetooth turntable, but my speakers have Bluetooth capability. They are connected to the turntable with wires so they are not portable. But I am also able to play songs off my phone or computer with them. They are Audioengine a5+. 

    From what I understand, a Bluetooth turntable is so you can copy your records on to a CD or flash drive using your computer. If that is what you want I don’t know anything about that. 
    No, the USB on the TT is so you can rip the vinyl.  

    no, the usb on the TT is so you can record the record WHILE IT PLAYS. there is no ripping in analog......
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,875
    edited December 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
    No, that actually makes sense. Like I said, if the sound quality is reduced by using Bluetooth, I doubt I’d use it anyway. I appreciate the advice. 
    I don’t have a Bluetooth turntable, but my speakers have Bluetooth capability. They are connected to the turntable with wires so they are not portable. But I am also able to play songs off my phone or computer with them. They are Audioengine a5+. 

    From what I understand, a Bluetooth turntable is so you can copy your records on to a CD or flash drive using your computer. If that is what you want I don’t know anything about that. 
    No, the USB on the TT is so you can rip the vinyl.  

    no, the usb on the TT is so you can record the record WHILE IT PLAYS. there is no ripping in analog......
    C'mon Mickey.  That's exactly what I meant. If you look at Orpheus and other sites, they are called "Vinyl Rip". Ripping is a generic term and I'm distinguishing it from the statement about Bluetooth, which has not role in the ripping/recording of the record. 

    Did you really think I thought you could record a record without it playing, like a cd?
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    GlowGirl said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
    No, that actually makes sense. Like I said, if the sound quality is reduced by using Bluetooth, I doubt I’d use it anyway. I appreciate the advice. 
    I don’t have a Bluetooth turntable, but my speakers have Bluetooth capability. They are connected to the turntable with wires so they are not portable. But I am also able to play songs off my phone or computer with them. They are Audioengine a5+. 

    From what I understand, a Bluetooth turntable is so you can copy your records on to a CD or flash drive using your computer. If that is what you want I don’t know anything about that. 
    Do you notice the sound quality drop when you run through the bluetooth? I'm assuming so. 
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    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NYPosts: 4,135
    mrussel1 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
    No, that actually makes sense. Like I said, if the sound quality is reduced by using Bluetooth, I doubt I’d use it anyway. I appreciate the advice. 
    I don’t have a Bluetooth turntable, but my speakers have Bluetooth capability. They are connected to the turntable with wires so they are not portable. But I am also able to play songs off my phone or computer with them. They are Audioengine a5+. 

    From what I understand, a Bluetooth turntable is so you can copy your records on to a CD or flash drive using your computer. If that is what you want I don’t know anything about that. 
    No, the USB on the TT is so you can rip the vinyl.  
    I think that is what I meant - but said poorly. Or maybe I just don't know what a bluetooth turntable is :lol:

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 23,765
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    GlowGirl said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I was looking at this one too. It’s a little more than what I wanted to pay, and I don’t think it has Bluetooth capability. I’m not sure if I’ll use BT that often but was wanting the option. 
    Blue tooth for what?  Do you mean so you can stream music from your phone to the record player which then sends a signal to your pre amp?  Or is it to connect with Bluetooth speakers?

    Personally I only look at the analog side of things, so I'm curious how bluetooth plays into a TT. 
    I was thinking for Bluetooth speakers. I’ve read the sound quality isn’t as good as wiring it but I wanted that option. 

    Anyone here have a Bluetooth record player? If it’s that bad, maybe I don’t want one. 
    I think it's going to depend on what you want out of your TT.  Every feature you ask for is going to reduce the investment in the core of the TT (the tonearm, platter, cart, etc.)  So I would be cautious about 'features', unless convenience is the name of your game.  And if that's the case, then why a TT?  I'm not dogging you, so don't take this the wrong way.  But think of it like AVR's.  People just want more and more out of their AVRs.. dolby atmos, streaming, 7 HDMI ports, etc.  But they aren't going to pay $3k.  So manufacturers save on the amplifier stage, and the pre amp processing, go cheap on the DAC, etc.  And you can hear it.   It's all tradeoffs.  A $500 pure analog TT is going to sound substantially better than the one with the laundry list of features.  
    No, that actually makes sense. Like I said, if the sound quality is reduced by using Bluetooth, I doubt I’d use it anyway. I appreciate the advice. 
    I don’t have a Bluetooth turntable, but my speakers have Bluetooth capability. They are connected to the turntable with wires so they are not portable. But I am also able to play songs off my phone or computer with them. They are Audioengine a5+. 

    From what I understand, a Bluetooth turntable is so you can copy your records on to a CD or flash drive using your computer. If that is what you want I don’t know anything about that. 
    No, the USB on the TT is so you can rip the vinyl.  

    no, the usb on the TT is so you can record the record WHILE IT PLAYS. there is no ripping in analog......
    C'mon Mickey.  That's exactly what I meant. If you look at Orpheus and other sites, they are called "Vinyl Rip". Ripping is a generic term and I'm distinguishing it from the statement about Bluetooth, which has not role in the ripping/recording of the record. 

    Did you really think I thought you could record a record without it playing, like a cd?

    no I dont believe you thought that.

    but it would be a very browns fan thing to think....
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    mickeyrat said:
    LukinFan said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    I really like the Audio Technica AT-LP120XUSB but it’s out of stock everywhere, including at AT. I contacted AT, and they said they would be eventually back in stock but they don’t know when.  

    Anyone know of another record player with similar features? Thanks!
    What are the features important to you?  USB, phono stage,  belt driven,  speed switch?
    Direct Drive
    Bluetooth 
    USB (I doubt I will ever use it, so it's not super important)
    Anti-Skate control
    Pre-amp
    Speed Switch 

    I think that's about it. 

    what about this?


    as of the 2nd a local has 6 available at $499.....

    sure something can be worked out.

    I see the dust cover comes unhinged. Anyone else have a TT like this? Is it a pain? We have to keep our cover down while playing a record because my 2 year old son likes to mess with the record. 
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,576
    edited December 2021
    I'd have to agree with @mrussel1 on this. I think bluetooth defeats the point of getting a turntable. Especially when you often see the cheapest TT's (like Crosley) advertising Bluetooth and USB features.

    My Dad was looking for an under $500 turntable recently. I advised him to go with an Orbit. I know he's not that tech savvy, and the Orbit tonearm comes balanced out of the box, so I thought it was a good match for him. They have a pre-amp option as well. You should look at their website, you can custom build your TT.

    Pro-ject is also something to look at. For the price you get a nice tonarm, probably better than most TT's in that range. And they're easliy upgradable which is bonus. There are options to improve the platter, cartridge, power supply, etc, so if you don't want to lay out a lot now, you can gradually increase the performance. 

    Question- what will you be running it through? Type of amp, speakers?


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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    Thanks everyone. You have convinced me to stir clear of BT. And like I said, I probably would never use it anyway. I really appreciate all of the advice. I still have no clue what I'm going to get though. 
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    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541

    eddiec said:


    Question- what will you be running it through? Type of amp, speakers?


    My wife got me some new speakers for my birthday, but I haven't had a chance to hook them up yet. The name of the speakers are slipping my mind right now. I'm hoping to have a chance this weekend to connect them. 
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    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 23,875
    LukinFan said:
    Thanks everyone. You have convinced me to stir clear of BT. And like I said, I probably would never use it anyway. I really appreciate all of the advice. I still have no clue what I'm going to get though. 
    So two more questions. 

    1. Does your integrated amp or pre amp have a phono stage today?
    2. Do you really think you will to to digitize your records? That's the only reason you need a USB. 
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NYPosts: 4,135
    Even though I have had my turntable for only a little over a year - I am itching to upgrade. This is the one I want:

    Thorens TD 102A Automatic Turntable - Walnut


  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,541
    mrussel1 said:
    LukinFan said:
    Thanks everyone. You have convinced me to stir clear of BT. And like I said, I probably would never use it anyway. I really appreciate all of the advice. I still have no clue what I'm going to get though. 
    So two more questions. 

    1. Does your integrated amp or pre amp have a phono stage today?
    2. Do you really think you will to to digitize your records? That's the only reason you need a USB. 
    the preamp I use now was pretty cheap. I'm not currently at home, but I do not think it has a phono stage. 

    As for the digitalizing records, I don't know...knowing me, I seriously doubt I will. But saying that, I have so many records that I do not have a digital copy of and I wish I did (for on the go listening). But again, I doubt I will ever use it. Maybe in the beginning? 
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
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