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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,004
    Just practicing for when they can take an AR15 to high school.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/20/us/illinois-child-shooting-2-injured/index.html
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    Just practicing for when they can take an AR15 to high school.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/20/us/illinois-child-shooting-2-injured/index.html
    good toddler with a gun.

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,869
    Nailed 2 people with 1 shot. That kid is a marksman.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,004


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • mickeyrat
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    School shooter asks for mercy from life sentence; teacher, principal want him to stay in prison
    By Jeffrey Collins
    Today

    COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A school shooter serving a life sentence without parole for killing a first grader on a South Carolina playground when he was 14 is asking a judge to lessen his sentence so he can eventually get out of prison.

    Jesse Osborne's lawyer asked Judge Lawton McIntosh on Monday to reconsider his sentence so Osborne, now 21, could have some hope of freedom in his 50s or 60s.

    Attorney Frank Eppes said the judge didn't fully consider a psychologist's report that Osborne's lashed out because of abuse and can be rehabilitated.

    “Give Jesse some hope to live with,” Eppes said at a televised court hearing.

    Osborne himself asked for a chance at life outside a prison cell, apologizing to the family of 6-year-old Jacob Hall who he killed and everyone at the school that day.

    “I would just like to say sorry to every single one of them. Because my evil actions hurt their lives,” Osborne said. “I’m just going to try to better myself in the Department of Corrections the rest of my life.

    But the teacher whose class was having recess, the parent of a wounded child, the father of the student celebrating his birthday, the superintendent who saw the bloodstained class rug and the school principal all said at Monday's hearing at the Anderson County Courthouse that they don't want to ever see Osborne out of prison.

    Principal Denise Fredericks recognized Osborne as he paced outside Townville Elementary School with a backpack full of ammunition for 12 minutes after his gun jammed before police arrived to arrest him. Osborne had been a student there for seven years.

    “I do wish Jesse a life where he can wake up, breathe, eat, work, be productive — but not outside the walls of a prison,” Fredericks said. “In my opinion, his current sentence is still so, so much more merciful than the sentence he gave to Jacob and our school family.”

    Prosecutors said Hall's family didn't wish to speak in court but want Osborne to never be released from prison.

    Osborne is serving two life sentences after pleading guilty. Before opening fire at the school on Sept. 28, 2016, he shot and killed his father while he slept in a recliner, kissed his rabbit and other pets goodbye, then stole his dad's truck and drove to his former elementary school, according to Osborne's confession.

    Osborne crashed his truck into the school fence and fired at the first grade class celebrating a classmate's birthday at recess. Hall bled to death from a gunshot to his leg. Two other student and a teacher suffered minor injuries.

    Uneaten cupcakes with the Batman logo could still be seen on the ground inside police tape hours after the shooting.

    “My son hates his birthday now,” father Jeff Bernard told the judge.

    Prosecutors said Osborne wanted to kill dozens but he was carrying the wrong ammunition and his gun jammed after every shot.

    “He didn’t stop because he wanted to. The gun jammed. Thank God the gun jammed,” Fredericks said.

    Osborne's lawyer said a video call he had open to a group chat with people who knew his plan showed him sobbing, upset and ready to give up after the first shots.

    Osborne is asking the judge to consider a supplemental report from a psychologist that disagrees with prosecution experts who testified at Osborne's original sentencing that he is a dangerous and pathological liar with no remorse.

    Osborne's brain was sill developing in his teens. The psychiatrists cited by the defense said he has shown guilt and grief and responded to treatment during the nearly seven years since his arrest on school grounds.

    Osborne's lawyer suggested a 30-year minimum sentence for the two counts of murder, followed by 15 years for shooting at the other children and then lifetime monitoring by GPS after he is released from prison with one review after 10 years.

    McIntosh asked for a detailed report from the defense expert in the next month and told prosecutors they would have at least 10 days to respond.

    A number of students never returned to the school after the shooting. Some haven't returned to any school. A popped balloon ended a school dance in tears. Recess is still filled with anxiety, said teacher Meghan Hollingsworth, whose class was celebrating the birthday that day. Her child was in kindergarten just down the hall.

    "The screams of children having fun sends a panic through me as I look to see who is screaming and see if they are OK," she said.

    She asked the judge to think about a sign in her first grade classroom and uphold his life sentence handed down more than three years ago,

    “You are free to choose, but you are not free from the consequences of your choices,” it reads.


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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,869
    ^ I see a pretty simple solution to letting him out of prison.
    Release him the same day Jacob Hall rises from the dead.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    It will def happen shootouts at drive through burger joints too! Give me my cheeseburger before I put a cap in your arse 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    But Mickey is the problem 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    But Mickey is the problem 

    No I am not
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144


    Had to have been the ham and cheese
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,869
    Nah, you only whip out the gun for pepperoni pizza flavor.
    Ham & cheese is strictly a stab-able offense.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542
    mickeyrat said:


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    But Mickey is the problem 

    No I am not
    😂😂😂 no not you Mickey unless you have big ears and a tail 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mickeyrat said:
    christ...how in the fuck did the kid get the gun.

    This is just like the shooting that happened in my hood a few years ago. Google Noblesville West Middle School shooting. The kid left the room, got his gun from his locker, came back and started shooting. Luckily the teacher was all over it but the little girl he was targeting did get shot.

    This shit is no different than the seat belt laws. When gov't finally steps in and says that we are basically too stupid to protect ourselves so they create laws to protect us. The gun nuts can cry all they want about the 2A but shit like this will get us closer to licensing and registration.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,004
    mickeyrat said:
    christ...how in the fuck did the kid get the gun.

    This is just like the shooting that happened in my hood a few years ago. Google Noblesville West Middle School shooting. The kid left the room, got his gun from his locker, came back and started shooting. Luckily the teacher was all over it but the little girl he was targeting did get shot.

    This shit is no different than the seat belt laws. When gov't finally steps in and says that we are basically too stupid to protect ourselves so they create laws to protect us. The gun nuts can cry all they want about the 2A but shit like this will get us closer to licensing and registration.
    A “responsible” gun owner, duh.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    edited May 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    christ...how in the fuck did the kid get the gun.

    This is just like the shooting that happened in my hood a few years ago. Google Noblesville West Middle School shooting. The kid left the room, got his gun from his locker, came back and started shooting. Luckily the teacher was all over it but the little girl he was targeting did get shot.

    This shit is no different than the seat belt laws. When gov't finally steps in and says that we are basically too stupid to protect ourselves so they create laws to protect us. The gun nuts can cry all they want about the 2A but shit like this will get us closer to licensing and registration.
    A “responsible” gun owner, duh.
    yep...same shit with the local shooter. Parent's kept the guns in an unlocked gun safe and he had free reign to take them without them even noticing. The parents were sued but I can't remember the outcome or if the case has even been settled yet.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    I just realized that our school shooting was five years ago today....crazy


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542
    I just realized that our school shooting was five years ago today....crazy


    Shit parenting 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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