Ohana Festival Merch

Loujoe

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Saltzy23

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

on2legs

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

I hear you… to me it’s a gray area.  I don’t mind if someone buys one of an item and ends up trading or selling it for another more desired item.   But I’m not cool with the people who use bots or buy armfuls of merch at shows.  I don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer here…. But I definitely think there is a line that gets crossed with people doing a high volume of selling or using unfair advantages like bots. 

KM73780

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

Oh, hello, flipper 

KM73780

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

When you buy from 10C, it says right on there “NOT FOR RESALE”. Can people on this forum read? Sometimes I’m not sure. And what does the sticker on the back of the poster say? “Say no to flippers” or something like that. So I’m saying, they put all this anti flip stuff out there and don’t actually enforce it. That was my point. But you just wanted to chime in and be rude about it without recognizing my point. 

Saltzy23

Today I.....sold a stock for more than I paid for it.

I know!

I'm so embarrassed!

Please don't tell my parents!

I'm so ashamed!

on2legs

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

When you buy from 10C, it says right on there “NOT FOR RESALE”. Can people on this forum read? Sometimes I’m not sure. And what does the sticker on the back of the poster say? “Say no to flippers” or something like that. So I’m saying, they put all this anti flip stuff out there and don’t actually enforce it. That was my point. But you just wanted to chime in and be rude about it without recognizing my point. 

Does the “Not For Resale” prohibit people from scoring a sought after poster and offering it in trade for another item?  I’m on the side of it’s ok as long as we’re taking about one item and not multiples. 

KM73780

Saltzy23 said:

Today I.....sold a stock for more than I paid for it.

I know!

I'm so embarrassed!

Please don't tell my parents!

I'm so ashamed!

Is a stock listed as “not for resale”? Nice try. Bugger off, dolphin.  

Saltzy23

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

When you buy from 10C, it says right on there “NOT FOR RESALE”. Can people on this forum read? Sometimes I’m not sure. And what does the sticker on the back of the poster say? “Say no to flippers” or something like that. So I’m saying, they put all this anti flip stuff out there and don’t actually enforce it. That was my point. But you just wanted to chime in and be rude about it without recognizing my point. 

I saw a 'Say no to drugs' sign by the high school by my house today, yet right there next to it was a bunch of youngins smoking the marijuana!

The nerve of these godless heathens!

Does no one respect the rules of society anymore?!?

KM73780

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

When you buy from 10C, it says right on there “NOT FOR RESALE”. Can people on this forum read? Sometimes I’m not sure. And what does the sticker on the back of the poster say? “Say no to flippers” or something like that. So I’m saying, they put all this anti flip stuff out there and don’t actually enforce it. That was my point. But you just wanted to chime in and be rude about it without recognizing my point. 

I saw a 'Say no to drugs' sign by the high school by my house today, yet right there next to it was a bunch of youngins smoking the marijuana!

The nerve of these godless heathens!

Does no one respect the rules of society anymore?!?

Ok you really need to learn how to make comparisons.

Saltzy23

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

When you buy from 10C, it says right on there “NOT FOR RESALE”. Can people on this forum read? Sometimes I’m not sure. And what does the sticker on the back of the poster say? “Say no to flippers” or something like that. So I’m saying, they put all this anti flip stuff out there and don’t actually enforce it. That was my point. But you just wanted to chime in and be rude about it without recognizing my point. 

I saw a 'Say no to drugs' sign by the high school by my house today, yet right there next to it was a bunch of youngins smoking the marijuana!

The nerve of these godless heathens!

Does no one respect the rules of society anymore?!?

Ok you really need to learn how to make comparisons.

I'll simplify.

Selling 10C tickets for profit, verboten.

Everything else, game on.

KM73780

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

KM73780 said:

Saltzy23 said:

OE Sparkle print just sold for $570 on eBay.

Too rich for my blood.

I’m surprised Ames Bros doesn’t cancel these orders. Guess no one really monitors flipping. 

This is still America, yes?

Sometimes on this board I forget.

When you buy from 10C, it says right on there “NOT FOR RESALE”. Can people on this forum read? Sometimes I’m not sure. And what does the sticker on the back of the poster say? “Say no to flippers” or something like that. So I’m saying, they put all this anti flip stuff out there and don’t actually enforce it. That was my point. But you just wanted to chime in and be rude about it without recognizing my point. 

I saw a 'Say no to drugs' sign by the high school by my house today, yet right there next to it was a bunch of youngins smoking the marijuana!

The nerve of these godless heathens!

Does no one respect the rules of society anymore?!?

Ok you really need to learn how to make comparisons.

I'll simplify.

Selling 10C tickets for profit, verboten.

Everything else, game on.

I am talking specifically about posters, for which there is some precedent for orders being cancelled. See: Bottle Neck Gallery and F4D. 

That is all. 

Have yourself a nice evening. 

lmckenney24

I think if your buying bulk posters, with multiple accounts (or multiple at a show) for purposes of selling for a profit makes it true flipping.

However, having a single copy of a poster that you decide to trade or sell at some point (not before you actually receive it haha) for current value falls into that grey area that is acceptable IMO.

Also, your correct, 10C does state not for re-sale. However, I've never seen that language on a single AP I've purchased from an artist site. So, if someone wants to sell that AMES Sparkle, there isn't anything preventing that, from a "purchase agreement" perspective (I wouldn't sell it, I'd frame it, but to each there own)

Just my .02

SHZA

KM73780 said:

SHZA said:

Hey would they identify the flipper?

I’m sure there are ways. I’ve heard of cancelled orders because someone “didn’t cover their eBay tracks well enough”. There was that time Bottleneck bought a flipper’s sale on eBay and then just didn’t ship the guy his order. I guess they had his info when he sold it back to them so they knew who he was?

Spending $500 to cancel a $200 sale is cutting off one's nose to spite the face. If the name on the ebay account doesn't match any of the sales, they'd be stuck with paying the flipper. And even if they caught a few flippers, once they put the posters back up for sale there's no guarantee that the new buyer won't also be a flipper. 

cp3iverson

lmckenney24 said:

I think if your buying bulk posters, with multiple accounts (or multiple at a show) for purposes of selling for a profit makes it true flipping.

However, having a single copy of a poster that you decide to trade or sell at some point (not before you actually receive it haha) for current value falls into that grey area that is acceptable IMO.

Also, your correct, 10C does state not for re-sale. However, I've never seen that language on a single AP I've purchased from an artist site. So, if someone wants to sell that AMES Sparkle, there isn't anything preventing that, from a "purchase agreement" perspective (I wouldn't sell it, I'd frame it, but to each there own)

Just my .02

I’m good with this.  If I buy an AP and in a month I see people are going nuts and paying 7x what I paid why is it looked down upon for selling it?  

As long as they’re not raiding the merch line or paying homeless folks to stand next to them (I’ve seen it) or using bots i generally don’t have a problem with the person.  Id rather fans get the stuff but a lot of these people are actual fans.  It’s a fine line like someone said. 

We’ve all been here for a long long time tho and I am more inclined to sell to people on Lost Dogs if they’re after something rather than see what an auction gets me.  It’s a community here and I know other pj ones exist on social media but I’ve never taken a glance. 

lmckenney24

cp3iverson said:

lmckenney24 said:

I think if your buying bulk posters, with multiple accounts (or multiple at a show) for purposes of selling for a profit makes it true flipping.

However, having a single copy of a poster that you decide to trade or sell at some point (not before you actually receive it haha) for current value falls into that grey area that is acceptable IMO.

Also, your correct, 10C does state not for re-sale. However, I've never seen that language on a single AP I've purchased from an artist site. So, if someone wants to sell that AMES Sparkle, there isn't anything preventing that, from a "purchase agreement" perspective (I wouldn't sell it, I'd frame it, but to each there own)

Just my .02

I’m good with this.  If I buy an AP and in a month I see people are going nuts and paying 7x what I paid why is it looked down upon for selling it?  

As long as they’re not raiding the merch line or paying homeless folks to stand next to them (I’ve seen it) or using bots i generally don’t have a problem with the person.  

We’ve all been here for a long long time tho and I am more inclined to sell to people on Lost Dogs if they’re after something rather than see what an auction gets me.  It’s a community here and I know other pj ones exist on social media but I’ve never taken a glance. 

Agree on all points.

If I am going to sell something or give something away (i've done both), I'm doing it on Lost Dogs or nothing. That part of the community is there for a reason. 

Gern Blansten

I  usually say to just hold off if you don't score an AP or 10c poster when they are available.  Wait awhile and check ebay and you can usually get a show poster for $60-$80 which isn't bad.

I have had my eye on the Lexington KY poster for a few years and I'm amazed that it still sells for $300 on ebay

JeBurkhardt

Gern Blansten said:

I  usually say to just hold off if you don't score an AP or 10c poster when they are available.  Wait awhile and check ebay and you can usually get a show poster for $60-$80 which isn't bad.

I have had my eye on the Lexington KY poster for a few years and I'm amazed that it still sells for $300 on ebay

I have a post in Lost Dogs looking for a SE Williams Ohana poster. Hopefully it eventually snags me one. I admit I have chased a few on Ebay, but they end up going for more than I want to spend on it. Maybe after the post festival frenzy dies down a little, the prices on Ebay will drop a bit.

Gern Blansten

JeBurkhardt said:

Gern Blansten said:

I  usually say to just hold off if you don't score an AP or 10c poster when they are available.  Wait awhile and check ebay and you can usually get a show poster for $60-$80 which isn't bad.

I have had my eye on the Lexington KY poster for a few years and I'm amazed that it still sells for $300 on ebay

I have a post in Lost Dogs looking for a SE Williams Ohana poster. Hopefully it eventually snags me one. I admit I have chased a few on Ebay, but they end up going for more than I want to spend on it. Maybe after the post festival frenzy dies down a little, the prices on Ebay will drop a bit.

yeah I snagged an extra Meggs and a white zippo hoping someone had an extra Williams to trade but I struck out

bbiggs

If someone wants to flip a devil surfer t-shirt in medium, I'm your guy.  Hit me up.