I think a lot of songss on the different albums create their own stories when put together. On Vs. I tend to think the storyline goes Daughter into Rearviewmirror into either Elderly woman or Leash. Sort of a story of a girl rising above the pain and leaving everythingbehind to find a new life or home. Ideas?
'don't call me daughter
not fit to
the picture kept will remind me'
the mother is a bad mother. she is not fit enough to call her own child daughter cause she is certainly no mother. the picture inside the girl's head, her memories, are what will always remind her of that.
i love that song so much.
Hi, I'm a newbe and this is my first post. I also like this song a lot, but I can't figure out what it is really saying.
At first I thought that the shades going down might be a metaphor for the child developing autism or some other disability, and then the parent loves the child less for this, making them unfit. But after reading some of these replies I think that the child being abused by the parent behind the shades is also plausible. If the abuse was inflicted by a step-parent, then that might tie in with the lyric about the picture, since there would be no biological resemblance.
In one live concert DVD that I saw, this song was immediately proceeded by an epilog with the lyric, "It doesn't matter, I'll still love you anyway."
I know. That sounds almost like the same story as with Alive. On storytellers Ed lets everyone know the story behind it and how it was misunderstood. Of course it changed, but to the casual PJ listener, they would think that 'I'm still alive' has always been a good thing
I remember long ago eddie saying that he didn't want to tell what Alive was about because it would ruin it for alot of people, because people interpret songs differently based on their lives and experiences. And i have always been grateful for that, because i have used pj music to get through alot of this "all encompassing trip" (like alot of others, i'm sure). If back then he would have spilled it, i think it would have left me feeling a little empty and let down. I needed that song and it came at just the right time. He probably knew that alot of people would have felt the same way, so he didn't want to take that away from us. I'm sure he has songs that are like that to him, and he knows how it feels to have that one thing to relate to when there seems to be nothing else at all to relate to. He is so great. He does care about us. I love this f-ing band!! Hawaii here i come!!!
Thats what I always thought, or maybe an old pic of when the mother wasnt so bad?
I always thought that it meant that i will have the picture to remind me of you, because i don't actually want to see you at all anymore. But, i am coming from the point of view of a girl who's real mother abandoned her at the age of 7. I guess i can really relate to that song. Everyone has their own interpretation. That's what makes it so great!!
So I posted this earlier but nobody helped me out. So please, i'm really curious:
I know the lyrics to Immortality. But what is it really about? The lyrics don't make sense to me. I know this is probably an obvious one. But please someone fill me in. What's with the "stripped and sold Mom and the auctioned Forearm"?
Thanks!
So I posted this earlier but nobody helped me out. So please, i'm really curious:
I know the lyrics to Immortality. But what is it really about? The lyrics don't make sense to me. I know this is probably an obvious one. But please someone fill me in. What's with the "stripped and sold Mom and the auctioned Forearm"?
Thanks!
So I posted this earlier but nobody helped me out. So please, i'm really curious:
I know the lyrics to Immortality. But what is it really about? The lyrics don't make sense to me. I know this is probably an obvious one. But please someone fill me in. What's with the "stripped and sold Mom and the auctioned Forearm"?
Thanks!
i honeslty dont know what exactly that line means, very abstract, but my own interperation of it is about wanting your soul to live on forever, your earthly boydy might die, but your spirit will live on forever, peole who get you down here cant touch you later in life, and i think its a little about suicide as well, the end line haunts me " some die just to live" ( especially having dealt with a family member and suicide) i really think too every song depends on your own life, what you been through and how you see things.
yeah, thats true, but i think daughter is actually about an abusive relationship between the mother/daughter (possibly father?) because the daughter not only cant live up to the expectations, but because she is slow
eddie was reported saying so, and at the end of the song he says "the shades go down"
they pull the shades down so no one sees them beating her.
just what i think! lol and from what ive heard/read
'the shades go down
it's in her head
painted room
can't deny
there's something wrong
don't call me daughter
not fit to'
certainly some room there for interpretation isn't there?
i guess when it comes down to it, all that matters is what it means to you as an individual.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
That makes sense. I think you are right about it being partially about suicide. Especially too because of the lyric "a truant finds home". I don't know. I'd still like to hear more ideas. Thanks!
That makes sense. I think you are right about it being partially about suicide. Especially too because of the lyric "a truant finds home". I don't know. I'd still like to hear more ideas. Thanks!
Kurt Cobain's Death, I figure.
i cannot stop the thought.......running in the dark
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"Cigar box on the floor" etc etc It is so obviously about Kurt
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You know, maybe Daughter is a prequel to Why Go. I think they can be seen as one continuing story.
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Daughter is the prequel to "Rearview Mirror".
"the shades go down...."
"finally the shades are raised..."
Daughter is about physical abuse (imho). I'm not sure if it's the mother that was actually the abusive one or just the one who ignores the abuse, because the lyrics fit both cases. Rearview Mirror, imho, is about the girl finally escaping the situation.
I didn't read all the posts, so if someone explained this already, sorry for the double post.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Daughter is the prequel to "Rearview Mirror".
"the shades go down...."
"finally the shades are raised..."
Daughter is about physical abuse (imho). I'm not sure if it's the mother that was actually the abusive one or just the one who ignores the abuse, because the lyrics fit both cases. Rearview Mirror, imho, is about the girl finally escaping the situation.
I didn't read all the posts, so if someone explained this already, sorry for the double post.
Daughter -> Why Go -> Leash -> rearviewmirror
All about the same person to me. Listen to them in that order and keep the "daughter" in mind.
I am always amazed at these threads that try to decipher the lyrics. I love all the different interpretations, and really enjoy reading about them, but for myself, I just love the music and Ed's voice and make up my own meanings for the most part. Music to me shouldn't be hard, just fun. Keep on though, as I said, I love reading all of these.
"I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
According to Eddie, it's the best way he could express his feelings about the Roskilde tragedy.
Hence them playing Arc 9 times live.
All
Roskilde's
Children
9 Vocal loops..
something like that..
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Two songs... Lowlight and Off He Goes. I love quite a few of the lines from both songs, but the overall meaning of those songs just zip right over my head. I'm sure there are plenty of you who know.
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Hi, I'm a newbe and this is my first post. I also like this song a lot, but I can't figure out what it is really saying.
At first I thought that the shades going down might be a metaphor for the child developing autism or some other disability, and then the parent loves the child less for this, making them unfit. But after reading some of these replies I think that the child being abused by the parent behind the shades is also plausible. If the abuse was inflicted by a step-parent, then that might tie in with the lyric about the picture, since there would be no biological resemblance.
In one live concert DVD that I saw, this song was immediately proceeded by an epilog with the lyric, "It doesn't matter, I'll still love you anyway."
So go figure. Any other thoughts on this?
I remember long ago eddie saying that he didn't want to tell what Alive was about because it would ruin it for alot of people, because people interpret songs differently based on their lives and experiences. And i have always been grateful for that, because i have used pj music to get through alot of this "all encompassing trip" (like alot of others, i'm sure). If back then he would have spilled it, i think it would have left me feeling a little empty and let down. I needed that song and it came at just the right time. He probably knew that alot of people would have felt the same way, so he didn't want to take that away from us. I'm sure he has songs that are like that to him, and he knows how it feels to have that one thing to relate to when there seems to be nothing else at all to relate to. He is so great. He does care about us. I love this f-ing band!! Hawaii here i come!!!
I always thought that it meant that i will have the picture to remind me of you, because i don't actually want to see you at all anymore. But, i am coming from the point of view of a girl who's real mother abandoned her at the age of 7. I guess i can really relate to that song. Everyone has their own interpretation. That's what makes it so great!!
I always saw it as a relationship on the rocks that he's trying to hold together as it slips away.
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I know the lyrics to Immortality. But what is it really about? The lyrics don't make sense to me. I know this is probably an obvious one. But please someone fill me in. What's with the "stripped and sold Mom and the auctioned Forearm"?
Thanks!
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i honeslty dont know what exactly that line means, very abstract, but my own interperation of it is about wanting your soul to live on forever, your earthly boydy might die, but your spirit will live on forever, peole who get you down here cant touch you later in life, and i think its a little about suicide as well, the end line haunts me " some die just to live" ( especially having dealt with a family member and suicide) i really think too every song depends on your own life, what you been through and how you see things.
yes. that's exactly what 'spin the black circle' is about.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
'the shades go down
it's in her head
painted room
can't deny
there's something wrong
don't call me daughter
not fit to'
certainly some room there for interpretation isn't there?
i guess when it comes down to it, all that matters is what it means to you as an individual.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
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Gorge 7/22/06
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EV Vancouver 2 04/06/08
CORRECT!!!!!
"Cigar box on the floor" etc etc It is so obviously about Kurt
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According to Eddie, it's the best way he could express his feelings about the Roskilde tragedy.
Hence them playing Arc 9 times live.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Daughter is the prequel to "Rearview Mirror".
"the shades go down...."
"finally the shades are raised..."
Daughter is about physical abuse (imho). I'm not sure if it's the mother that was actually the abusive one or just the one who ignores the abuse, because the lyrics fit both cases. Rearview Mirror, imho, is about the girl finally escaping the situation.
I didn't read all the posts, so if someone explained this already, sorry for the double post.
All about the same person to me. Listen to them in that order and keep the "daughter" in mind.
Must have forgotten
- Antwerp '06, Nijmegen '07, Werchter '07
All
Roskilde's
Children
9 Vocal loops..
something like that..
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