Viruses / Vaccines

bootlegger10

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

nicknyr15

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

bootlegger10

It just seems at this point we are only delaying the inevitable.   

HughFreakingDillon

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

bootlegger10

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand that, but that just means that sometimes he is wrong.  So it is fair to disagree with some of his comments because he isn’t always right.  

nicknyr15

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand this rebuttal to anything that bashes Fauci. But I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t change the way I feel about him. And I genuinely believe if he was a less political figure , more people would dislike him. When him and Biden say something like “no one seen this coming” about this current strain, my eyes roll. 

static111

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

Yep. Same Here.

HughFreakingDillon

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand that, but that just means that sometimes he is wrong.  So it is fair to disagree with some of his comments because he isn’t always right.  

he's generally been right with the information he had at hand. 

mrussel1

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand this rebuttal to anything that bashes Fauci. But I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t change the way I feel about him. And I genuinely believe if he was a less political figure , more people would dislike him. When him and Biden say something like “no one seen this coming” about this current strain, my eyes roll. 

Why do you see him as a political figure? I don't.  I see him as an infectious disease expert.  His role is to be conservative.  

The analogy I use is working with you general counsel in business.  Their role is to eliminate risk.  They give you the zero risk scenario.  But if you listened to them word for word,  you wouldn't have a business.  

HughFreakingDillon

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand this rebuttal to anything that bashes Fauci. But I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t change the way I feel about him. And I genuinely believe if he was a less political figure , more people would dislike him. When him and Biden say something like “no one seen this coming” about this current strain, my eyes roll. 

he didn't say "no one seen this coming" in the way you are claiming here. he said the current number of mutations in omicron is unprecedented, but he obviously forecasted that mutations themselves would be part of life. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10326203/We-saw-coming-Fauci-contradicts-Harris-claim-administration-did-not-predict-variants.html

it's really odd to me that people expect him to be ahead of this once-in-a-lifetime situation 100% of the time, especially when the top officials often don't listen to him, or politicize him, or downright lie about him. 

I really don't see what there is to dislike about the guy. I guess some people expect him to be some guy with an S on his chest and save the world. 

nicknyr15

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand this rebuttal to anything that bashes Fauci. But I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t change the way I feel about him. And I genuinely believe if he was a less political figure , more people would dislike him. When him and Biden say something like “no one seen this coming” about this current strain, my eyes roll. 

he didn't say "no one seen this coming" in the way you are claiming here. he said the current number of mutations in omicron is unprecedented, but he obviously forecasted that mutations themselves would be part of life. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10326203/We-saw-coming-Fauci-contradicts-Harris-claim-administration-did-not-predict-variants.html

it's really odd to me that people expect him to be ahead of this once-in-a-lifetime situation 100% of the time, especially when the top officials often don't listen to him, or politicize him, or downright lie about him. 

I really don't see what there is to dislike about the guy. I guess some people expect him to be some guy with an S on his chest and save the world. 

I accept that you’re a fan of him. I am not and I don’t feel the need to have to defend my opinion of him. To me he’s become a Dr Phil, Dr Oz, Dr Drew etc… I don’t take him seriously like I did when this first started. 

The Juggler

mrussel1 said:

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand this rebuttal to anything that bashes Fauci. But I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t change the way I feel about him. And I genuinely believe if he was a less political figure , more people would dislike him. When him and Biden say something like “no one seen this coming” about this current strain, my eyes roll. 

Why do you see him as a political figure? I don't.  I see him as an infectious disease expert.  His role is to be conservative.  

The analogy I use is working with you general counsel in business.  Their role is to eliminate risk.  They give you the zero risk scenario.  But if you listened to them word for word,  you wouldn't have a business.  

The vast majority of people who see him as a political figure are the ones trying to demonize him for trying to keep us safe. Guy was originally appointed to his position by Reagan. He's not a political figure. 

Merkin Baller

There's been a concerted effort to undermine and vilify Fauci, and it's been quite successful among conservative America.

The following quotes are taken from this recent NY Times article written in the wake of Jesse Watters' suggestion that Fauci needs to be "ambushed" with a "kill shot". https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/business/media/fox-anthony-fauci-jesse-watters.html

“Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, who is widely viewed as a leader of the Republican Party, referred to Dr. Fauci as a “Covid authoritarian””

“Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, described Dr. Fauci as “the most dangerous bureaucrat in the history of the country” during a Fox News interview”

“In April, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, introduced the Fire Fauci Act, a bill that, among other measures, would strip Dr. Fauci of his salary. (It has not progressed in Congress.)"

"Former President Donald J. Trump has called Dr. Fauci “a radical masker” and questioned the doctor’s efforts to combat the pandemic.”

"Fox News is a frequent venue for the criticism, and where the doctor is occasionally referred to as “Lord Fauci.” The network’s highest-rated hosts often depict him as an authoritarian determined to strip Americans of basic freedoms. Tucker Carlson has claimed that Dr. Fauci “created Covid,” and accused him of spreading “authoritarian germ hysteria.”

“On Oct. 4, Mr. Carlson accused Mr. Fauci of deciding “to unilaterally end Christmas,” in remarks that also included a reference to “sneezing, unvaccinated illegal immigrants coming into this country,” which Mr. Carlson said had contributed to more Covid-19 cases."

“Lara Logan, a former CBS News correspondent, used an appearance on Fox News in November to compare Dr. Fauci to Josef Mengele, the notorious Nazi doctor and murderer, prompting a rebuke from the Anti-Defamation League. Since then, Ms. Logan has not appeared on Fox News or the streaming platform Fox Nation.“

The Juggler

Merkin Baller said:

There's been a concerted effort to undermine and vilify Fauci, and it's been quite successful among conservative America.

The following quotes are taken from this recent NY Times article written in the wake of Jesse Watters' suggestion that Fauci needs to be "ambushed" with a "kill shot". https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/business/media/fox-anthony-fauci-jesse-watters.html

“Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, who is widely viewed as a leader of the Republican Party, referred to Dr. Fauci as a “Covid authoritarian””

“Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, described Dr. Fauci as “the most dangerous bureaucrat in the history of the country” during a Fox News interview”

“In April, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, introduced the Fire Fauci Act, a bill that, among other measures, would strip Dr. Fauci of his salary. (It has not progressed in Congress.)"

"Former President Donald J. Trump has called Dr. Fauci “a radical masker” and questioned the doctor’s efforts to combat the pandemic.”

"Fox News is a frequent venue for the criticism, and where the doctor is occasionally referred to as “Lord Fauci.” The network’s highest-rated hosts often depict him as an authoritarian determined to strip Americans of basic freedoms. Tucker Carlson has claimed that Dr. Fauci “created Covid,” and accused him of spreading “authoritarian germ hysteria.”

“On Oct. 4, Mr. Carlson accused Mr. Fauci of deciding “to unilaterally end Christmas,” in remarks that also included a reference to “sneezing, unvaccinated illegal immigrants coming into this country,” which Mr. Carlson said had contributed to more Covid-19 cases."

“Lara Logan, a former CBS News correspondent, used an appearance on Fox News in November to compare Dr. Fauci to Josef Mengele, the notorious Nazi doctor and murderer, prompting a rebuke from the Anti-Defamation League. Since then, Ms. Logan has not appeared on Fox News or the streaming platform Fox Nation.“

Blood on all those folks' hands. 

nicknyr15

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand this rebuttal to anything that bashes Fauci. But I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t change the way I feel about him. And I genuinely believe if he was a less political figure , more people would dislike him. When him and Biden say something like “no one seen this coming” about this current strain, my eyes roll. 

Why do you see him as a political figure? I don't.  I see him as an infectious disease expert.  His role is to be conservative.  

The analogy I use is working with you general counsel in business.  Their role is to eliminate risk.  They give you the zero risk scenario.  But if you listened to them word for word,  you wouldn't have a business.  

The vast majority of people who see him as a political figure are the ones trying to demonize him for trying to keep us safe. Guy was originally appointed to his position by Reagan. He's not a political figure. 

This is exactly what I mean. If you dislike Fauci, you’re labeled an anti science , republican. Which isn’t the case with me. But whatever. 

Indifference71

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

Yep.  I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid.  It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this??  It will do nothing.  It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc...  NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases.  What science are they following here???  It's all just political theater.  

The Juggler

nicknyr15 said:

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this.  You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed.   The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020.  Why start now?  COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.  

The same dude who said there would be no mandates and it goes against peoples freedom…..Im against this mandate and honestly sick of hearing what this guy has to say. I have a feeling a lot of people would  be sick of him too if he didn’t become such a political figure. 

the situation evolves as the science evolves. our top health official said "don't bother with masks" and a week later said "everyone wear a mask". this pandemic isn't static. everything changes with every new strain/season/etc. when fauci says something he's saying it as if thing remains as they are. when the situation changes, his stance can change. that's the nature of science and discovery. 

I understand this rebuttal to anything that bashes Fauci. But I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t change the way I feel about him. And I genuinely believe if he was a less political figure , more people would dislike him. When him and Biden say something like “no one seen this coming” about this current strain, my eyes roll. 

Why do you see him as a political figure? I don't.  I see him as an infectious disease expert.  His role is to be conservative.  

The analogy I use is working with you general counsel in business.  Their role is to eliminate risk.  They give you the zero risk scenario.  But if you listened to them word for word,  you wouldn't have a business.  

The vast majority of people who see him as a political figure are the ones trying to demonize him for trying to keep us safe. Guy was originally appointed to his position by Reagan. He's not a political figure. 

This is exactly what I mean. If you dislike Fauci, you’re labeled an anti science , republican. Which isn’t the case with me. But whatever. 

"Vast majority" does not mean everyone, does it?
https://www.axios.com/approval-rating-roberts-biden-mcconell-pelosi-schumer-26675fe1-3101-4b9b-8762-25f6c01384b6.html

gimmesometruth27

well our global sales meeting in florida in 5 weeks has been canceled due to covid. 

i am glad because i really did not want to fucking go and be around all those people. especially in florida.

gimmesometruth27

i have spent the last 2 days trying to find at home tests and have been to 12 pharmacies here and nobody has them. i looked online and most are out of stock. even wal mart has sold out of them.

i have had sinus pressure for 4 days and an ear ache for the last 2. no fevers, no loss of smell or taste, no cough. no sore throat. only other symptom is being tired but i am tired all the time now, haha. my nose is not running, and my sinus and throat passage feels dry. 

honestly i have had colds and bouts of seasonal allergies worse than this so i doubt it is covid. but fucking hell i can't even get tested to rule it out.

gimmesometruth27

this is brilliant. the horse names had me rolling, haha  sound up

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1475515908533764098?s=20