POLL- The WEAKEST LINK: MOVIE SEQUELS - ROUND 3

dankind

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

Was thinking maybe it would align with Miller since it approximated the title, but no.

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Ledger's Joker was a wannabe homicidal maniac who wore makeup -- you know, like in a cheap psychological thriller.

Ledbetterman10

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Dark Knight is so convoluted. Lose Two-Face and add more Joker (the only good thing about the movie) and it’s be so much better.

As I said, split it up in two. Have the cliffhanger be Aaron with half his face off.

Who hasn't checked out when there are prisonerns on a ferry in like act 45 of the film... NO ONE. EVERYONE HAS CHECKED OUT IN CHRISTOPHER NOLANS ABOMINATION.

I agree with both of these statements. Have Harvey be Harvey throughout, burn his face near the end, and literally the final shot of the movie could be him revealing the burned half of his face. 

And the ferry part is so contrived. As is Joker’s escape from the interrogation room, and the way Harvey is burned (the “save one or the other” stuff)

tempo_n_groove

ALIENS

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

Was thinking maybe it would align with Miller since it approximated the title, but no.

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Ledger's Joker was a wannabe homicidal maniac who wore makeup -- you know, like in a cheap psychological thriller.

I forgot to add Miller to the mix, very good.

The Joker character by Nicholson is not in any way a correct portrayal like the above mentioned comics.  Not even close. 

dankind

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

Was thinking maybe it would align with Miller since it approximated the title, but no.

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Ledger's Joker was a wannabe homicidal maniac who wore makeup -- you know, like in a cheap psychological thriller.

The argument to be made for pretty decent fealty to a comic book run would be for The Winter Soldier, but y'all bastards apparently like overwrought Nolan drek more than this dark romp from Marvel.

tbergs

ALIENS

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

Was thinking maybe it would align with Miller since it approximated the title, but no.

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Ledger's Joker was a wannabe homicidal maniac who wore makeup -- you know, like in a cheap psychological thriller.

This is true, but I liked both Jokers and appreciate the differences.

tempo_n_groove

ALIENS

tbergs said:

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

Was thinking maybe it would align with Miller since it approximated the title, but no.

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Ledger's Joker was a wannabe homicidal maniac who wore makeup -- you know, like in a cheap psychological thriller.

This is true, but I liked both Jokers and appreciate the differences.

Nicholsons was too cartoony and resembled the 60's TV show more so than the current comic climate at the time.

Spiritual_Chaos

THE DARK KNIGHT

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

I just happen to be correct.

You never read the comics or the ones I listed, lol.

Edit:  You should pick up the very ones I mentioned.  

I've read every graphic novel you mentioned.

Now look at this:

BATMAN (1989) > The Dark Knight

mcgruff10

THE DARK KNIGHT

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

I read some comics but not a heck of a lot.  

tbergs

ALIENS

The best Joker was from the 90's animated series. That show was awesome.

tempo_n_groove

ALIENS

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

I just happen to be correct.

You never read the comics or the ones I listed, lol.

Edit:  You should pick up the very ones I mentioned.  

I've read every graphic novel you mentioned.

Now look at this:

BATMAN (1989) > The Dark Knight

You must love everything Tim Burton does=fanboy

Batman Begins is better than 1989 Batman

I find it hard to believe that any comic fan didn't enjoy DK over any other one.  You are in a very very small minority.

Spiritual_Chaos

THE DARK KNIGHT

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Dark Knight is so convoluted. Lose Two-Face and add more Joker (the only good thing about the movie) and it’s be so much better.

As I said, split it up in two. Have the cliffhanger be Aaron with half his face off.

Who hasn't checked out when there are prisonerns on a ferry in like act 45 of the film... NO ONE. EVERYONE HAS CHECKED OUT IN CHRISTOPHER NOLANS ABOMINATION.

I agree with both of these statements. Have Harvey be Harvey throughout, burn his face near the end, and literally the final shot of the movie could be him revealing the burned half of his face. 

And the ferry part is so contrived. As is Joker’s escape from the interrogation room, and the way Harvey is burned (the “save one or the other” stuff)

Yes. The movie should have ended with Harveys face burning off and Katie Holmes/Gyllenhaals characters just having died. End on that note. 

Not have it some weird midpoint.

Spiritual_Chaos

THE DARK KNIGHT

dankind said:

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Nicholson was an R-rated version of Cesar Romero.

And it worked for the Burton take on the universe. I prefer Returns though.

Wish we would have gotten a third movie by Burton/Keaton.

dankind

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

tbergs said:

The best Joker was from the 90's animated series. That show was awesome.

This is indisputable.

Mark Hamill FTW!!!

Ledbetterman10

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

Was thinking maybe it would align with Miller since it approximated the title, but no.

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Ledger's Joker was a wannabe homicidal maniac who wore makeup -- you know, like in a cheap psychological thriller.

The only “Jokerish” thing he does is throw the drink over his shoulder and take a sip from the empty glass. 

I listed some contrived scenes in a previous post. Another one is the pencil trick. “Hey henchmen, walk over towards him so he smash your face into a pencil.” 

I saw an above post mention an animated Joker as one of the best. I’d we’re including non-live action Jokers, I’d throw the Joker from the Arkham video games in there…also voiced by Mark Hamill 

Spiritual_Chaos

THE DARK KNIGHT

Mark Hamill shouldn't have done that shitty Child's Play remake though.

NEVER FORGET

dankind

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Mark Hamill shouldn't have done that shitty Child's Play remake though.

NEVER FORGET

The first Child's Play was perfect.

Bill Butler is a mood genius.

tbergs

ALIENS

dankind said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Mark Hamill shouldn't have done that shitty Child's Play remake though.

NEVER FORGET

The first Child's Play was perfect.

Bill Butler is a mood genius.

Yes, first Child's Play doesn't deserve to be grouped with the rest of the series. Such is the trend with horror movie franchises in general.

tbergs

ALIENS

Ledbetterman10 said:

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

Was thinking maybe it would align with Miller since it approximated the title, but no.

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Ledger's Joker was a wannabe homicidal maniac who wore makeup -- you know, like in a cheap psychological thriller.

The only “Jokerish” thing he does is throw the drink over his shoulder and take a sip from the empty glass. 

I listed some contrived scenes in a previous post. Another one is the pencil trick. “Hey henchmen, walk over towards him so he smash your face into a pencil.” 

I saw an above post mention an animated Joker as one of the best. I’d we’re including non-live action Jokers, I’d throw the Joker from the Arkham video games in there…also voiced by Mark Hamill 

Mark Hamill had it nailed.

dankind

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

And the convenience of the plot is so up the scriptwriters ass.

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Dark Knight was overrated from the get-go.

Totally agree.

Non comic book readers I take it?

Was thinking maybe it would align with Miller since it approximated the title, but no.

Nicholson's Joker was a homicidal maniac who made jokes -- you know, like in the comics.

Ledger's Joker was a wannabe homicidal maniac who wore makeup -- you know, like in a cheap psychological thriller.

The only “Jokerish” thing he does is throw the drink over his shoulder and take a sip from the empty glass. 

I listed some contrived scenes in a previous post. Another one is the pencil trick. “Hey henchmen, walk over towards him so he smash your face into a pencil.” 

I saw an above post mention an animated Joker as one of the best. I’d we’re including non-live action Jokers, I’d throw the Joker from the Arkham video games in there…also voiced by Mark Hamill 

Mark Hamill had it nailed.

My eight-year-old wants to play Arkham Asylum so badly, but I'm fairly certain it will give him nightmares.

Spiritual_Chaos

THE DARK KNIGHT

dankind said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Mark Hamill shouldn't have done that shitty Child's Play remake though.

NEVER FORGET

The first Child's Play was perfect.

Bill Butler is a mood genius.

Yes. One of those "Gritty New York" thrillers. It just happens to include a killer doll. And it takes itself 100% serious. Without remembering Candyman too much, I used to put Child's Play/Candyman together sharing that urban grittieness. 

The second Child's Play is good too albeit lacks some of the grit and darkness. It keeps that stress you feel of the kid not being believed. The stress you also feel during A Nightmare on Elm Street.

Did not know Bill Butler shot it, if it is the cinematographer of Jaws.