If we count the Gorge as Seattle (which I do, because George, WA has like 200 people, so obviously it's main draw is from people in Seattle).
I think it was Lolla '96. RATM, Ramones, Devo, Metallica, Soundgarden - So I guess Soundgarden would be the first.
If we don't count the Gorge, then it's Pearl Jam's 2nd show at Memorial Stadium in '98.
I'm missing Seattle shows a lot. Given that I live in Vancouver Island, I travel to either Vancouver or Seattle for bigger shows. I much prefer Seattle. The last show I saw in Seattle was the Stones in 2019 (which is also my last stadium/arena sized concert) :(
If we count the Gorge as Seattle (which I do, because George, WA has like 200 people, so obviously it's main draw is from people in Seattle).
I think it was Lolla '96. RATM, Ramones, Devo, Metallica, Soundgarden - So I guess Soundgarden would be the first.
If we don't count the Gorge, then it's Pearl Jam's 2nd show at Memorial Stadium in '98.
I'm missing Seattle shows a lot. Given that I live in Vancouver Island, I travel to either Vancouver or Seattle for bigger shows. I much prefer Seattle. The last show I saw in Seattle was the Stones in 2019 (which is also my last stadium/arena sized concert) :(
I would be in the camp that doesn’t count George, WA as Seattle. If it is you may as well count Calgary as Edmonton or vice versa. It’s over two hours away. Not exactly a suburb lol.
If we count the Gorge as Seattle (which I do, because George, WA has like 200 people, so obviously it's main draw is from people in Seattle).
I think it was Lolla '96. RATM, Ramones, Devo, Metallica, Soundgarden - So I guess Soundgarden would be the first.
If we don't count the Gorge, then it's Pearl Jam's 2nd show at Memorial Stadium in '98.
I'm missing Seattle shows a lot. Given that I live in Vancouver Island, I travel to either Vancouver or Seattle for bigger shows. I much prefer Seattle. The last show I saw in Seattle was the Stones in 2019 (which is also my last stadium/arena sized concert) :(
I would be in the camp that doesn’t count George, WA as Seattle. If it is you may as well count Calgary as Edmonton or vice versa. It’s over two hours away. Not exactly a suburb lol.
For reference. My house to downtown Edmonchuck:
Yah, but it's a Seattle venue. There's like 200 people that live in George, WA. The concerts are obviously not for them. Seattle is the only major population centre anywhere near it.
Calgary and Edmonton are different. There big enough to host their own shows. George, WA isn't and hosts shows for Seattle, ergo a Seattle venue
If we count the Gorge as Seattle (which I do, because George, WA has like 200 people, so obviously it's main draw is from people in Seattle).
I think it was Lolla '96. RATM, Ramones, Devo, Metallica, Soundgarden - So I guess Soundgarden would be the first.
If we don't count the Gorge, then it's Pearl Jam's 2nd show at Memorial Stadium in '98.
I'm missing Seattle shows a lot. Given that I live in Vancouver Island, I travel to either Vancouver or Seattle for bigger shows. I much prefer Seattle. The last show I saw in Seattle was the Stones in 2019 (which is also my last stadium/arena sized concert) :(
I would be in the camp that doesn’t count George, WA as Seattle. If it is you may as well count Calgary as Edmonton or vice versa. It’s over two hours away. Not exactly a suburb lol.
In all fairness, Tacoma and Everett are as close as Seattle. Spokane is about 15 minutes closer. Coeur D’ Alene is only 15 minutes farther than Spokane. Wenatchee is 45 minutes away.
The Gorge is actually a regional event venue. People meet in the middle.
PJ has played in Spokane and George is actually closer to Spokane than Seattle. Therefore, Seattle is not the only major population centre near it and your argument falls apart there. I’ve never heard anyone say they saw a band at “the Gorge in Seattle”.
If we count the Gorge as Seattle (which I do, because George, WA has like 200 people, so obviously it's main draw is from people in Seattle).
I think it was Lolla '96. RATM, Ramones, Devo, Metallica, Soundgarden - So I guess Soundgarden would be the first.
If we don't count the Gorge, then it's Pearl Jam's 2nd show at Memorial Stadium in '98.
I'm missing Seattle shows a lot. Given that I live in Vancouver Island, I travel to either Vancouver or Seattle for bigger shows. I much prefer Seattle. The last show I saw in Seattle was the Stones in 2019 (which is also my last stadium/arena sized concert) :(
I would be in the camp that doesn’t count George, WA as Seattle. If it is you may as well count Calgary as Edmonton or vice versa. It’s over two hours away. Not exactly a suburb lol.
For reference. My house to downtown Edmonchuck:
Get your records out I'm comming over!!
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Obviously the gorge isn't physically in seattle, but it is a seattle venue. Seattle's the biggest closest population centre. The Seattle area has something like 4 million people and spokane has a few hundred thousand.
The majority of people that go to gorge shows are from the seattle area, but yes, people travel from other areas too.
If seattle wasn't a few hours drive away, there wouldn't be enough people to warrant having a venue there.
I think my 1st ever shows at all in Seattle were Bumbershoot '93 or '94, and the 1st band definitely from Seattle I remember seeing was Sky Cries Mary... and I remember liking them a LOT.
looking at a map it looks to me like it serves several communities, so I wouldn't personally attribute it to seattle exclusively.
I would agree with that, but Seattle would be the primary market, because all the other cities that surround the gorge area are fairly small in comparison.
Anyways....
For those that thing the gorge serves george, wa which has a population of 501 people, then my first seattle band a seattle venue would be Pearl Jam at Memorial Coliseum on July 22 1998.
all I'm saying is, we also have a venue like that (or we did-it didn't last more than one year). it's located near a beach an hour north of Winnipeg. Winnipeg is definitely the closest biggest market, but I still wouldn't call it a Winnipeg venue.
just a matter of personal perspective I guess.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
In all fairness. While the Gorge is not Seattle. Big bands that are touring late spring to early fall either play Seattle, or the Gorge. Not both. So i think promoters and tour managers consider it a Seattle stop. I've seen bands do the Gorge+Vancouver WA/Portland. And Gorge+Vancouver B.C. But rarely Gorge+Seattle. Make any sense?
In all fairness. While the Gorge is not Seattle. Big bands that are touring late spring to early fall either play Seattle, or the Gorge. Not both. So i think promoters and tour managers consider it a Seattle stop. I've seen bands do the Gorge+Vancouver WA/Portland. And Gorge+Vancouver B.C. But rarely Gorge+Seattle. Make any sense?
on one tour, The Tragically Hip inexplicably played Brandon, a city 1/10 the size of Winnipeg, and 3 hours away, but not Winnipeg. I'm sure most of that crowd was made up of Winnipeggers. Does that make the Brandon Keystone Centre a Winnipeg venue?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
In all fairness. While the Gorge is not Seattle. Big bands that are touring late spring to early fall either play Seattle, or the Gorge. Not both. So i think promoters and tour managers consider it a Seattle stop. I've seen bands do the Gorge+Vancouver WA/Portland. And Gorge+Vancouver B.C. But rarely Gorge+Seattle. Make any sense?
on one tour, The Tragically Hip inexplicably played Brandon, a city 1/10 the size of Winnipeg, and 3 hours away, but not Winnipeg. I'm sure most of that crowd was made up of Winnipeggers. Does that make the Brandon Keystone Centre a Winnipeg venue?
Technically it was the same when PJ played the Pemberton festival a few years ago. Obviously it was in Pemberton, but Pemberton only has a population of a few thousand. So physically it's in Pemberton, but in spirit it's a Vancouver show.
I still can't believe a lot of 10c'ers didn't go that show because "it wasn't in vancouver". I fucking loved that show
In all fairness. While the Gorge is not Seattle. Big bands that are touring late spring to early fall either play Seattle, or the Gorge. Not both. So i think promoters and tour managers consider it a Seattle stop. I've seen bands do the Gorge+Vancouver WA/Portland. And Gorge+Vancouver B.C. But rarely Gorge+Seattle. Make any sense?
on one tour, The Tragically Hip inexplicably played Brandon, a city 1/10 the size of Winnipeg, and 3 hours away, but not Winnipeg. I'm sure most of that crowd was made up of Winnipeggers. Does that make the Brandon Keystone Centre a Winnipeg venue?
Technically it was the same when PJ played the Pemberton festival a few years ago. Obviously it was in Pemberton, but Pemberton only has a population of a few thousand. So physically it's in Pemberton, but in spirit it's a Vancouver show.
I still can't believe a lot of 10c'ers didn't go that show because "it wasn't in vancouver". I fucking loved that show
Last time I looked the concert poster said Pemberton not Vancouver.
A concert location is its physical location, not where it is “in spirit”. How the hell would you find the venue? 😂
In all fairness. While the Gorge is not Seattle. Big bands that are touring late spring to early fall either play Seattle, or the Gorge. Not both. So i think promoters and tour managers consider it a Seattle stop. I've seen bands do the Gorge+Vancouver WA/Portland. And Gorge+Vancouver B.C. But rarely Gorge+Seattle. Make any sense?
on one tour, The Tragically Hip inexplicably played Brandon, a city 1/10 the size of Winnipeg, and 3 hours away, but not Winnipeg. I'm sure most of that crowd was made up of Winnipeggers. Does that make the Brandon Keystone Centre a Winnipeg venue?
Technically it was the same when PJ played the Pemberton festival a few years ago. Obviously it was in Pemberton, but Pemberton only has a population of a few thousand. So physically it's in Pemberton, but in spirit it's a Vancouver show.
I still can't believe a lot of 10c'ers didn't go that show because "it wasn't in vancouver". I fucking loved that show
Last time I looked the concert poster said Pemberton not Vancouver.
A concert location is its physical location, not where it is “in spirit”. How the hell would you find the venue? 😂
hey siri, open google spirit location and find "pearl jam concert".
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
In all fairness. While the Gorge is not Seattle. Big bands that are touring late spring to early fall either play Seattle, or the Gorge. Not both. So i think promoters and tour managers consider it a Seattle stop. I've seen bands do the Gorge+Vancouver WA/Portland. And Gorge+Vancouver B.C. But rarely Gorge+Seattle. Make any sense?
on one tour, The Tragically Hip inexplicably played Brandon, a city 1/10 the size of Winnipeg, and 3 hours away, but not Winnipeg. I'm sure most of that crowd was made up of Winnipeggers. Does that make the Brandon Keystone Centre a Winnipeg venue?
Technically it was the same when PJ played the Pemberton festival a few years ago. Obviously it was in Pemberton, but Pemberton only has a population of a few thousand. So physically it's in Pemberton, but in spirit it's a Vancouver show.
I still can't believe a lot of 10c'ers didn't go that show because "it wasn't in vancouver". I fucking loved that show
Last time I looked the concert poster said Pemberton not Vancouver.
A concert location is its physical location, not where it is “in spirit”. How the hell would you find the venue? 😂
hey siri, open google spirit location and find "pearl jam concert".
Haha. Zod’s point is not completely without merit. Pearl Jam isn’t playing Smithers, BC for example. The promoters need to know there is a population area close by that will ensure enough people attend to make it profitable.
However, I still believe the show is its physical location. Small towns like Pemberton and George WA are in many ways put on the map with these large events. If we don’t recognize those locations, they lose some of the fringe benefits and esteem that recognition provides. As a small-town boy most of my life, it was always very cool when people remembered the town(s) I grew up in. Often it was due to a concert or some other large event.
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First ever show in Seattle was Ministry/L7 in 1999 at the Paramount.
-EV 8/14/93
PS - Gorge is NOT IN SEATTLE. Not even close.
-EV 8/14/93
just a matter of personal perspective I guess.
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93
Zod’s point is not completely without merit. Pearl Jam isn’t playing Smithers, BC for example. The promoters need to know there is a population area close by that will ensure enough people attend to make it profitable.
-EV 8/14/93