Report: Cuomo groped female aide in governor's residence

Gern Blansten

Repubs are supporting tRump running again in 2024 despite all of the allegations against him and despite what a horrible job he did.

cincybearcat

Gern Blansten said:

Repubs are supporting tRump running again in 2024 despite all of the allegations against him and despite what a horrible job he did.

Yup.  Anyone calling Cuomo out and supporting trump is a hypocrite.

tbergs

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Kavanaugh accusations sticks out big time. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.

How far back you want to go?

Kamala?
Biden?
Weiner?
Justice C Thomas?
Clinton?

The fact they have a slush fund of taxpayers money for sexual lawsuits tells you everything.  Bunch of fucking scum these politicians. 

And yet Kavanaugh and Trump suffered no repercussions. Cuomo was already elected, but he definitely won't be going any further with his career. He's a creep. Seems to be a trend among middle aged men in a POA.

gimmesometruth27

i think cuomo needs to step down. 

that said, we cannot have one party adhering to a certain standard and doing what is right while the other one does the opposite. 

i believe that allegations against cuomo are going to continue to come out until the heat gets too hot. his political career is basically over now.

but any trumpers coming out and demanding resignation when trump has 20+ allegations can go jump in a lake.

josevolution

Yep pretty much he has to go! And I agree with you Gimmie, 

brianlux

If Cuomo actually did what he has been accused of here, I say give him the boot.  But where here is the proof?  All I hear is you guys saying he did it.  Yes, I could go hunt down the evidence myself, but I'm not going to because you guys made the accusation, not me, and there has been no verifiable evidence presented here.  I'm going to be stubborn on this (and you know me, I am rarely stubborn) and not cut you any slack.  If you make an accusation, show the proof.  Otherwise, it's just gossip, and you people are/can be better than that.

F Me In The Brain

That sounds horribly unfair to the women involved.

Proof or nobody believes you.

Sort of supports the type of environment that powerful men can act like predators in and have for years.  

Why would a woman ever come forward if she doesn't have an assault recorded?

Throw out the anonymous claim and you still have women sharing stories of him being a creeper and sexually harassing some of them.

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-6e3c286c9ccfde352fc7b15ae7be9f70

Reserving judgement is fine and can make sense....but demanding proof in cases like these is odd, to me.

Telling me I can be better than that is also pretty darn odd.  I believe that women have been held down with this thinking.

I choose to believe the stories of the victims and not the powerful, lying, politician.

Same as I believed those standing against Kevin Spacey.  Kobe Bryant.  Donald Trump.  Celebrity and power does not mean people can get away with it.  In the case of Cuomo he is a known liar.  (Fact)  So, should people just accept that when he says these women misinterpreted his creepiness that Cuomo is now an honest man?

Not this guy.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

That sounds horribly unfair to the women involved.

Proof or nobody believes you.

Sort of supports the type of environment that powerful men can act like predators in and have for years.  

Why would a woman ever come forward if she doesn't have an assault recorded?

Throw out the anonymous claim and you still have women sharing stories of him being a creeper and sexually harassing some of them.

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-6e3c286c9ccfde352fc7b15ae7be9f70

Reserving judgement is fine and can make sense....but demanding proof in cases like these is odd, to me.

Telling me I can be better than that is also pretty darn odd.  I believe that women have been held down with this thinking.

I choose to believe the stories of the victims and not the powerful, lying, politician.

Same as I believed those standing against Kevin Spacey.  Kobe Bryant.  Donald Trump.  Celebrity and power does not mean people can get away with it.  In the case of Cuomo he is a known liar.  (Fact)  So, should people just accept that when he says these women misinterpreted his creepiness that Cuomo is now an honest man?

Not this guy.

If this is the standard then Joe Biden needs to step down from President because he's a creep that hugs a little too long or sniffs womens hair.

What's good for one is good for all right?

Edit: he had accusers too.

F Me In The Brain

Does not compare.  

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

Does not compare.  

Of course it doesn't...

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Does not compare.  

Of course it doesn't...

Then why bring it up?

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Does not compare.  

Of course it doesn't...

Then why bring it up?

Because it is the same thing.  My response was rhetorical.  I fully expect anyone who is accused of something to be treated the same as everybody else, not because I might like or dislike that person or political party.

Saying it doesn't compare to me is wrong.

nicknyr15

brianlux said:

If Cuomo actually did what he has been accused of here, I say give him the boot.  But where here is the proof?  All I hear is you guys saying he did it.  Yes, I could go hunt down the evidence myself, but I'm not going to because you guys made the accusation, not me, and there has been no verifiable evidence presented here.  I'm going to be stubborn on this (and you know me, I am rarely stubborn) and not cut you any slack.  If you make an accusation, show the proof.  Otherwise, it's just gossip, and you people are/can be better than that.

Be honest. Would you be saying this or asking these questions if it was , let’s say Ted Cruz being accused? 

nicknyr15

Halifax2TheMax said:

This may very well be POOTWH's ace in the hole. Seems odd the allegations are only coming out now, while POOTWH is under intense scrutiny and likely facing charges in NY State.  A repub gubner could pardon him. That said, Andrew is an old, lonely, creepy guy and if the investigation or a civil suit determines the charges are credible, he should resign and face whatever consequences there may be. Timing is everything. Of which there should be some reform, for the accused and the accuser, but I don't profess to know what that solution would look like. I have ideas but its a complicated, multi-faceted and difficult issue.

Ooooohhhhhh a conspiracy theory? Digging deep there 

dignin

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

That sounds horribly unfair to the women involved.

Proof or nobody believes you.

Sort of supports the type of environment that powerful men can act like predators in and have for years.  

Why would a woman ever come forward if she doesn't have an assault recorded?

Throw out the anonymous claim and you still have women sharing stories of him being a creeper and sexually harassing some of them.

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-6e3c286c9ccfde352fc7b15ae7be9f70

Reserving judgement is fine and can make sense....but demanding proof in cases like these is odd, to me.

Telling me I can be better than that is also pretty darn odd.  I believe that women have been held down with this thinking.

I choose to believe the stories of the victims and not the powerful, lying, politician.

Same as I believed those standing against Kevin Spacey.  Kobe Bryant.  Donald Trump.  Celebrity and power does not mean people can get away with it.  In the case of Cuomo he is a known liar.  (Fact)  So, should people just accept that when he says these women misinterpreted his creepiness that Cuomo is now an honest man?

Not this guy.

If this is the standard then Joe Biden needs to step down from President because he's a creep that hugs a little too long or sniffs womens hair.

What's good for one is good for all right?

Edit: he had accusers too.

One not credible accuser in about 100 years of public life compared to multiple credible accusers.

Definitely not the same situations.

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Does not compare.  

Of course it doesn't...

Then why bring it up?

Because it is the same thing.  My response was rhetorical.  I fully expect anyone who is accused of something to be treated the same as everybody else, not because I might like or dislike that person or political party.

Saying it doesn't compare to me is wrong.

Are people who worked for Joe Biden making accusations?

It is not the same thing.

Did you read the article I posted?

I get that you think Cuomo is just flirting -- we can agree to disagree.  I think it is gross, and completely out of line for the leader to be doing this around his subordinates. 

Do you also feel there needs to be proof in order to believe women when they make claims of this type of behavior?

If it is a he said she said....well, we know Cuomo is a liar. 

Enough reason not to believe him.

Also.....political party or liking Cuomo has nothing to do with my view.  I voted for the great grandfather Biden out of horror at the alternative, but am not a Democrat.  I cheered like crazy for Cuomo as a voice of strength opposite insane clown leader Donny Diapers. 

I still think he is a fucking creep and believe the women coming forward over him. 

hedonist

F Me In The Brain said:

That sounds horribly unfair to the women involved.

Proof or nobody believes you.

Sort of supports the type of environment that powerful men can act like predators in and have for years.  

Why would a woman ever come forward if she doesn't have an assault recorded?

Throw out the anonymous claim and you still have women sharing stories of him being a creeper and sexually harassing some of them.

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-6e3c286c9ccfde352fc7b15ae7be9f70

Reserving judgement is fine and can make sense....but demanding proof in cases like these is odd, to me.

Telling me I can be better than that is also pretty darn odd.  I believe that women have been held down with this thinking.

I choose to believe the stories of the victims and not the powerful, lying, politician.

Same as I believed those standing against Kevin Spacey.  Kobe Bryant.  Donald Trump.  Celebrity and power does not mean people can get away with it.  In the case of Cuomo he is a known liar.  (Fact)  So, should people just accept that when he says these women misinterpreted his creepiness that Cuomo is now an honest man?

Not this guy.

Sounds that way to me too. Perhaps I’m just sensitive to this touchy subject and, I don’t know...NOT BEING BELIEVED.

Thank you for your post, F Me. 

static111

dignin said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

That sounds horribly unfair to the women involved.

Proof or nobody believes you.

Sort of supports the type of environment that powerful men can act like predators in and have for years.  

Why would a woman ever come forward if she doesn't have an assault recorded?

Throw out the anonymous claim and you still have women sharing stories of him being a creeper and sexually harassing some of them.

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-6e3c286c9ccfde352fc7b15ae7be9f70

Reserving judgement is fine and can make sense....but demanding proof in cases like these is odd, to me.

Telling me I can be better than that is also pretty darn odd.  I believe that women have been held down with this thinking.

I choose to believe the stories of the victims and not the powerful, lying, politician.

Same as I believed those standing against Kevin Spacey.  Kobe Bryant.  Donald Trump.  Celebrity and power does not mean people can get away with it.  In the case of Cuomo he is a known liar.  (Fact)  So, should people just accept that when he says these women misinterpreted his creepiness that Cuomo is now an honest man?

Not this guy.

If this is the standard then Joe Biden needs to step down from President because he's a creep that hugs a little too long or sniffs womens hair.

What's good for one is good for all right?

Edit: he had accusers too.

One not credible accuser in about 100 years of public life compared to multiple credible accusers.

Definitely not the same situations.

So what exactly makes an accuser credible? Serious question.  If there is evidence then hopefully there will be a trial.  What differentiates this and say Kavanaugh? I dislike hypocritical republicans as much as the next guy but we can’t say that only those that accuse republicans are credible, that’s ludicrous.  We probably wouldn’t have got here if they would have found Clinton guilty and set a precedent in the days of Monica, but here we are.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Does not compare.  

Of course it doesn't...

Then why bring it up?

Because it is the same thing.  My response was rhetorical.  I fully expect anyone who is accused of something to be treated the same as everybody else, not because I might like or dislike that person or political party.

Saying it doesn't compare to me is wrong.

Are people who worked for Joe Biden making accusations?

It is not the same thing.

Did you read the article I posted?

I get that you think Cuomo is just flirting -- we can agree to disagree.  I think it is gross, and completely out of line for the leader to be doing this around his subordinates. 

Do you also feel there needs to be proof in order to believe women when they make claims of this type of behavior?

If it is a he said she said....well, we know Cuomo is a liar. 

Enough reason not to believe him.

Also.....political party or liking Cuomo has nothing to do with my view.  I voted for the great grandfather Biden out of horror at the alternative, but am not a Democrat.  I cheered like crazy for Cuomo as a voice of strength opposite insane clown leader Donny Diapers. 

I still think he is a fucking creep and believe the women coming forward over him. 

An accusation is an accusation whether it's at work or not.  That is my point.

Cuomo being in his position, especially since signing into NY law that sexual harassments in the work place be acknowledged, should know better.

Reading the women's accounts are flirting to me but some are definitely more aggressive.  Keanu Reeves when taking pictures w women will hold his hand behind their back and never actually touch them.  We are in a much different society now.

Being that I think it is flirting still has no place at work, you are correct there.  Maybe he does need to go for that.

dignin

static111 said:

dignin said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

That sounds horribly unfair to the women involved.

Proof or nobody believes you.

Sort of supports the type of environment that powerful men can act like predators in and have for years.  

Why would a woman ever come forward if she doesn't have an assault recorded?

Throw out the anonymous claim and you still have women sharing stories of him being a creeper and sexually harassing some of them.

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-6e3c286c9ccfde352fc7b15ae7be9f70

Reserving judgement is fine and can make sense....but demanding proof in cases like these is odd, to me.

Telling me I can be better than that is also pretty darn odd.  I believe that women have been held down with this thinking.

I choose to believe the stories of the victims and not the powerful, lying, politician.

Same as I believed those standing against Kevin Spacey.  Kobe Bryant.  Donald Trump.  Celebrity and power does not mean people can get away with it.  In the case of Cuomo he is a known liar.  (Fact)  So, should people just accept that when he says these women misinterpreted his creepiness that Cuomo is now an honest man?

Not this guy.

If this is the standard then Joe Biden needs to step down from President because he's a creep that hugs a little too long or sniffs womens hair.

What's good for one is good for all right?

Edit: he had accusers too.

One not credible accuser in about 100 years of public life compared to multiple credible accusers.

Definitely not the same situations.

So what exactly makes an accuser credible? Serious question.  If there is evidence then hopefully there will be a trial.  What differentiates this and say Kavanaugh? I dislike hypocritical republicans as much as the next guy but we can’t say that only those that accuse republicans are credible, that’s ludicrous.  We probably wouldn’t have got here if they would have found Clinton guilty and set a precedent in the days of Monica, but here we are.

This has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. Bad behaviour should be called out no matter the party. Biden's accuser had a history of shady behavior and many things about her story didn't add up and changed. Is it still possible that Biden did assault her? Yes, but her story wasn't credible.

Now compare that to the accusers of Cuomo, which are multiple, whose accusations are very credible, some he has admitted to himself. One incident where the accuser reported the misconduct directly after it happened.

That is why these two instances are not comparable.