Mars Landing

If you didn't watch it live, check out the animation and replay. Its amazing what we're capable of accomplishing when we put our heads together and work together. Watching the data stream live was amazing. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over my head.

WATCH LIVE: NASA's Perseverance rover landing on Mars - YouTube

Entry, Descent and Landing (EDL) - NASA Mars
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    edited February 2021
    So many problems on earth but let’s sound billions on space...sounds about right....
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    So many problems on earth but let’s sound billions on space...sounds about right....
    Mars is going to have massive Covid infections within the week.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Well damn. I wanted to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I was beat to it!

    That was something else to witness. Glad I did :)

  • hedonist said:
    Well damn. I wanted to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I was beat to it!

    That was something else to witness. Glad I did :)

    Did you catch David Bowie at the end?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    hedonist said:
    Well damn. I wanted to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I was beat to it!

    That was something else to witness. Glad I did :)

    Did you catch David Bowie at the end?
    You mean that group doing a terrible Bowie cover?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,062
    Still shocked I somehow didn’t win Pearl Jam tix to see them on Mars 🙁

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  • tbergs said:
    hedonist said:
    Well damn. I wanted to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I was beat to it!

    That was something else to witness. Glad I did :)

    Did you catch David Bowie at the end?
    You mean that group doing a terrible Bowie cover?
    Well, it was Bowie singing. Weird but give the nerds credit for trying to be hip.
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  • Still shocked I somehow didn’t win Pearl Jam tix to see them on Mars 🙁

    Ha! I forgot about that. I lost every test draw there ever was. And then some.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    hedonist said:
    Well damn. I wanted to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I was beat to it!

    That was something else to witness. Glad I did :)

    Did you catch David Bowie at the end?
    I did.

    It’s the freakiest show, baby!
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    tbergs said:
    hedonist said:
    Well damn. I wanted to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I was beat to it!

    That was something else to witness. Glad I did :)

    Did you catch David Bowie at the end?
    You mean that group doing a terrible Bowie cover?
    Well, it was Bowie singing. Weird but give the nerds credit for trying to be hip.
    Hmm, that's not what I heard. The cover by Yungblud is what I saw when I watched live.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    hedonist said:
    Well damn. I wanted to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I was beat to it!

    That was something else to witness. Glad I did :)

    Did you catch David Bowie at the end?
    You mean that group doing a terrible Bowie cover?
    Well, it was Bowie singing. Weird but give the nerds credit for trying to be hip.
    Hmm, that's not what I heard. The cover by Yungblud is what I saw when I watched live.
    Damn, my eyesight is bad. I thought it was one of those hologram thingys of a young Bowie with a remote band due to covid. Thinking it was nerds, they'd pull that off. Aren't I a clown shoe! Now I'm laughing at myself. I should have smoked before watching. I might have had more clarity. And to be honest, it was pretty bad. And I have never heard of Yungblud. Is that what all the kids listen to now? 
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    hedonist said:
    Well damn. I wanted to be the negative Nancy on this one, but I was beat to it!

    That was something else to witness. Glad I did :)

    Did you catch David Bowie at the end?
    You mean that group doing a terrible Bowie cover?
    Well, it was Bowie singing. Weird but give the nerds credit for trying to be hip.
    Hmm, that's not what I heard. The cover by Yungblud is what I saw when I watched live.
    Damn, my eyesight is bad. I thought it was one of those hologram thingys of a young Bowie with a remote band due to covid. Thinking it was nerds, they'd pull that off. Aren't I a clown shoe! Now I'm laughing at myself. I should have smoked before watching. I might have had more clarity. And to be honest, it was pretty bad. And I have never heard of Yungblud. Is that what all the kids listen to now? 
    Hahaha. I did smoke before. So that’s my excuse =)
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    My wife watched it with some friends (yes, distanced and masked). She was mildly impressed, the friends were quite impressed. She told me about it when I got home. I told her,

    You know that David Bowie line about "it's lonely in space"? Well, I'm sure it is, but feeling the way I do about spending money on going to the moon or Mars or whatever- that makes it lonely to me down here on earth.

    I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who thinks about all this the way I do.
     

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    Dr. Robert Zubrin with a brilliant answer to "Why Should We Go To Mars?"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Mu8qfVb5I&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=JaminGray
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    Live on Mars?  No thanks.  I'd rather be dead than red.
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  • We’ve been cooped up and isolated in our homes for almost a year. It takes about 8 months to get to mars. They just landed a rover that will spew oxygen. Soon there will be lawns and golf courses. Where do I sign up?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    Psychology tells us that when an individual is in crisis, he or she may have grand illusion of unlikely dreams. 
    "I'll win the lottery.  Everything will be fine!"

    I wonder if the same holds true for society/ civilization in general?
    "We'll just move a bunch of people to Mars!  Everything will be fine!"

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  • Space exploration is one of my favorite topics.  Deep ocean exploration, another.  Learning more about what we do not know is fascinating, to me.

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,442
    Space exploration is one of my favorite topics.  Deep ocean exploration, another.  Learning more about what we do not know is fascinating, to me.

    Deep ocean exploration is insane. I love the ocean. It’s incredible how little of it we actually explored. 
  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,423
    Space exploration is one of my favorite topics.  Deep ocean exploration, another.  Learning more about what we do not know is fascinating, to me.

    The Final Frontier? The Undiscovered Country? :glasses:
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    brianlux said:
    Live on Mars?  No thanks.  I'd rather be dead than red.
    That's all you got from that eh?
  • Hobbes said:
    Space exploration is one of my favorite topics.  Deep ocean exploration, another.  Learning more about what we do not know is fascinating, to me.

    The Final Frontier? The Undiscovered Country? :glasses:
    Yeeehaw, buddy!
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  • Space exploration is one of my favorite topics.  Deep ocean exploration, another.  Learning more about what we do not know is fascinating, to me.

    I reckon yous into Ariel?
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  • Space exploration is one of my favorite topics.  Deep ocean exploration, another.  Learning more about what we do not know is fascinating, to me.

    I reckon yous into Ariel?
    Hahaha.  
    You are perceptives....and that's what I appreciates about yous.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    Hobbes said:
    Space exploration is one of my favorite topics.  Deep ocean exploration, another.  Learning more about what we do not know is fascinating, to me.

    The Final Frontier? The Undiscovered Country? :glasses:

    Edward O. Wilson talks about another final frontier of sorts in one of his books.  He said that only a small fraction of microbes on this planet have been identified and named and that kind of research would be both fascinating and useful. 

    I know some of you are going to hate me for saying something like this again, but in my lonely head space I truly believe if we spent the billions that go into space exploration on understanding our own planet, we might actually be able to solve some of the problems that face us rather than looking for some pie-in-the-sky sci-fi fantasy about going somewhere else.  There no place like home.
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  • I would hope nobody hates you for saying (well, repeating) it....certainly a concern that you have and others have shared.
    I do not share it -- but I think we can understand that you find it a grand illusion, unlikely dream, fantasy, wasteful spending, etc...

    The Mars landing was awesome and I look forward to seeing the pictures as we gain access to them. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    I would hope nobody hates you for saying (well, repeating) it....certainly a concern that you have and others have shared.
    I do not share it -- but I think we can understand that you find it a grand illusion, unlikely dream, fantasy, wasteful spending, etc...

    The Mars landing was awesome and I look forward to seeing the pictures as we gain access to them. 

    And I'm certainly OK with individuals who are fans of space exploration.  My objections are to the general concept and the diversion of funds that could be used to solve some of the pressing issues we face here on earth.  My objections are certainly not toward folks like yourself who find all that fascinating.  

    One of the biggest fans of NASA and space exploration I've ever known was my mother.  She was completely enthralled by space exploration and was hugely disappointed when, as we watched the first person step on the moon, I said, "Well that was a huge waste of money."  I should have been more sensitive to her as an individual who was finding herself in a moment of sheer awe when that happened.  I don't regret my beliefs, just my timing.  And I loved my mom more than anyone in the world.
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  • dignin said:

    Dr. Robert Zubrin with a brilliant answer to "Why Should We Go To Mars?"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Mu8qfVb5I&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=JaminGray
    wow. that was awesome. 
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  • brianlux said:
    My wife watched it with some friends (yes, distanced and masked). She was mildly impressed, the friends were quite impressed. She told me about it when I got home. I told her,

    You know that David Bowie line about "it's lonely in space"? Well, I'm sure it is, but feeling the way I do about spending money on going to the moon or Mars or whatever- that makes it lonely to me down here on earth.

    I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who thinks about all this the way I do.
     

    i hear ya, Brian. I was once where you are. then I was taught about the overwhelming technological benefits that have come out of the space program. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies
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