Marjorie Taylor Greene

Go Beavers

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

The Juggler said:

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As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 

From what I can wrap my head around, I observe five major voting cohorts:

1. Trumpist: Pro-Trump
2. Will-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican, Trump-tolerant, anti-Democrat
3. Won't-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican/anti-Democrat
4. Will-hear-you-out democrat: Pro-Democrat, anti-Trump, anti-Republican
5. Won't hear you out democrat: Pro-liberal, Democrat-tolerant, anti-Republican

I don't envision any changes for Cohorts 1, 3, 4, or 5, and I'm unconvinced that given the degradation of the Republican party over the past decade, this will have any impact whatsoever. Even the partisan divides now have partisan divides, and no one wants to engage with different opinions, nor to risk being proven wrong.

I think you're forgetting actual swing voters.  They truly don't align with either party and are politically ambivalent.  Many of them have issues that matter to them, but they could be on either side of the aisle.  Further, they may not be likely to vote in mid terms or special elections.  So winning the EV at the state level can hinge on getting them to the polls on one of the issues that matter to them. Be it crime, abortion, gay marriage, etc.  I think elections swing on turnout of those people, plus the #2 and #4 above. 

I often wonder about how much swing voters vote on policy vs emotional response. It seems like there’s focus on trustworthiness, leadership, likability, and that they “ just don’t like the way things are going” vs weighing policy. 

mrussel1

Go Beavers said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

The Juggler said:

^
As horrendous as she is, the more attention she draws to herself, it's like free advertising for the democratic party. 

From what I can wrap my head around, I observe five major voting cohorts:

1. Trumpist: Pro-Trump
2. Will-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican, Trump-tolerant, anti-Democrat
3. Won't-hear-you-out conservative: Pro-Republican/anti-Democrat
4. Will-hear-you-out democrat: Pro-Democrat, anti-Trump, anti-Republican
5. Won't hear you out democrat: Pro-liberal, Democrat-tolerant, anti-Republican

I don't envision any changes for Cohorts 1, 3, 4, or 5, and I'm unconvinced that given the degradation of the Republican party over the past decade, this will have any impact whatsoever. Even the partisan divides now have partisan divides, and no one wants to engage with different opinions, nor to risk being proven wrong.

I think you're forgetting actual swing voters.  They truly don't align with either party and are politically ambivalent.  Many of them have issues that matter to them, but they could be on either side of the aisle.  Further, they may not be likely to vote in mid terms or special elections.  So winning the EV at the state level can hinge on getting them to the polls on one of the issues that matter to them. Be it crime, abortion, gay marriage, etc.  I think elections swing on turnout of those people, plus the #2 and #4 above. 

I often wonder about how much swing voters vote on policy vs emotional response. It seems like there’s focus on trustworthiness, leadership, likability, and that they “ just don’t like the way things are going” vs weighing policy. 

I think that's true,  but there are issues that animate them,  such as abortion as we clearly see.  Certain issues or people can get them to the polls.  Trump got people to the polls on both sides.

Halifax2TheMax

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

cincybearcat

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

mickeyrat

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

oh so now we're gonna adultering whore shame?

Merkin Baller

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

oh so now we're gonna adultering whore shame?

I don't disagree with Cincy's premise, but you're onto something too... that would only further endear people to her. "she's only human, everyone makes mistakes"

They are supremacists.

They're immune to accusations of hypocrisy, because as supremacists, they believe they are above the rules applied to the rest of society. 

Poncier

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

oh so now we're gonna adultering whore shame?

When the adultering whore is constantly on her soap box telling the rest of us how to live our lives and acting like she's the moral compass, it seems appropriate.

mickeyrat

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

oh so now we're gonna adultering whore shame?

When the adultering whore is constantly on her soap box telling the rest of us how to live our lives and acting like she's the moral compass, it seems appropriate.

I didnt say I was against it. Just wanted to be clear on what I was doing.

cincybearcat

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

oh so now we're gonna adultering whore shame?

Yup.  That's where I am at with her.  

mickeyrat

cincybearcat said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

oh so now we're gonna adultering whore shame?

Yup.  That's where I am at with her.  

soooo do I stand to your right or your left?

cincybearcat

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

oh so now we're gonna adultering whore shame?

Yup.  That's where I am at with her.  

soooo do I stand to your right or your left?

My guess is you are left of me

gimmesometruth27

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, take your poster board and go home. Nobody wants to play with you! Go on now, go home!

https://youtu.be/Lc0lAjcehy0

I honestly am at a point where I wish people would throw it back around at her.

Anytime she accuses and says her bullshit, everyone should respond with "Are you going to fuck around on America like you did your husband? Do you plan to fuck us over too?  Do you plan to break up America like you broke up your family?"  

Only response ever to her.  Nothing else.

oh so now we're gonna adultering ***** shame?

When the adultering ***** is constantly on her soap box telling the rest of us how to live our lives and acting like she's the moral compass, it seems appropriate.

^^^ this

Bentleyspop

Idiots gonna be idiots....

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1650563806882324482?t=797KSHFv9aDtsfGbk45V0Q&s=19

https://twitter.com/RepBoebert/status/1650527321508442112?t=5F-eUtmu1eff8GPxyNN9LA&s=19

gimmesometruth27

Bentleyspop said:

Idiots gonna be idiots....

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1650563806882324482?t=797KSHFv9aDtsfGbk45V0Q&s=19

https://twitter.com/RepBoebert/status/1650527321508442112?t=5F-eUtmu1eff8GPxyNN9LA&s=19

literally nobody is surprised. this is about as on brand as they can get.

Halifax2TheMax

Another wrongfully treated, patriotic, true ‘Murican freedumbs fighter that’ll go down in history being stood up for my Maggie Three Names and Lorena Bobbit. Can’t wait for their science fair like poster boards at the next investigative committee hearing meeting.

Halifax2TheMax

“A white Christian nationalist being wrongly persecuted for his race and religion by Brandon,” or whatever Maggie Three Fucks said.

New evidence filed in Massachusetts District Courtsuggests Jack Teixeira, the Massachusetts Air National Guard member suspected of leaking a trove of classified military intelligence, had a history of making violent comments, sought information about how to commit a shooting and had what prosecutors called a “virtual arsenal of weapons” stored at his places of residence, including an AK-style weapon.

In the court filing, prosecutors also accuse Teixeira of obstructing the investigation into the leaks by attempting to destroy evidence. The filing is intended to support the prosecutors’ request that Teixeira remain in custody without a bond, which a judge is expected to decide on Thursday.

Teixeira’s attorneys did not respond for request for comment late Wednesday.

Judge to decide if Discord leak suspect will remain in jail

Teixeira, 21, served with the 102nd Intelligence Wing at Otis Air National Guard Base and is accused of sharing classified information on the online chat platform Discord, in what is possibly the biggest military leak in a decade. Charged with the unauthorized retention and transmission of national defense information and the unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents, he could face 25 years in prison — possibly more.

The former IT specialist, who is accused of sharing the documents on a Discord server named “Thug Shaker Central,” has been described as a “charismatic gun enthusiast” who wanted to educate and inform his friends. But the new court filings reveal a fascination with mass killings and a concentrated effort to acquire military-grade weaponry while entertaining troubling ideas about how to use it.

In the court documents, prosecutors reveal that Teixeira was suspended from high school in 2018 after a classmate overheard him talking about “Molotov cocktails, guns at the school, and racial threats.” On social media in recent years, he has continued such rhetoric, prosecutors say, writing in a November message that he wanted to kill a “ton of people” because it would be “culling the weak minded.” In February, he asked a user for advice about what kind of rifle would fire best from an SUV, saying he wanted to commit a shooting in a “crowded urban or suburban environment.”

What we know about 21-year-old accused of leaking top-secret documents

Teixeira is also said to have used his military-issued device to search for “Las Vegas shooting,” “Buffalo tops shooting,” “Uvalde” and other shooting-related terms irrelevant to his job at the base.

A search of Teixeira’s bedroom found that he kept a gun locker two feet from his bed containing handguns, bolt-action rifles, shotguns, an AK-style weapon and a gas mask, among other weapons, prosecutors say in the new filing. Investigators also found ammunition and tactical pouches on his dresser and what appeared to be a silencer accessory in his desk drawer, while photos of Teixeira’s bedroom, submitted as evidence, show a hand-drawn design for a gun truck, a pile of rifle magazine pouches and other military paraphernalia.

The court filing also includes evidence that suggests Teixeira attempted to destroy electronic devices that could contain information about the leaks. A search of the dumpster outside his house found a smashed tablet, laptop and Xbox, as well as a box for a new iPhone. Two days before his arrest, Teixeira told colleagues he had a new phone number and email address.

“It appears that the Defendant took these steps with the intent to cover his tracks and to obscure his role in multiple crimes,” prosecutors wrote.

In Wednesday’s court filing, prosecutors expressed concern that Teixeira is a flight risk and a threat to public safety and national security.

In arguing that he should remain detained while awaiting trial, prosecutors noted that he “may still have access to a trove of classified information that would be of tremendous value to hostile nation states that could offer him safe harbor.”

If released, he is likely to “continue to destroy evidence, influence witnesses, and otherwise seek to obstruct justice before trial,” they wrote, adding, “The Defendant’s troubling history raises serious concerns about what he would do if released into the community.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/27/jack-teixeira-discord-leak-documents-guns/

Kat

I'd bet it wasn't only Democrats...

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/1661751285299793920

benjs

Kat said:

I'd bet it wasn't only Democrats...

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/1661751285299793920

I could honestly watch this over and over again. The part that makes me cringe though, is that she probably felt the same amount of shame as she's ever been capable of (none).

Halifax2TheMax

benjs said:

Kat said:

I'd bet it wasn't only Democrats...

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/1661751285299793920

I could honestly watch this over and over again. The part that makes me cringe though, is that she probably felt the same amount of shame as she's ever been capable of (none).

Are you kidding? She’s a seether. She probably went back to her tiny office and threw shoes before going back to Georgia to blast bud light 30 packs with her .50 cal.

gimmesometruth27

Kat said:

I'd bet it wasn't only Democrats...

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/1661751285299793920

the lincoln project said "we just witnessed mtg's Joker origin story"


to me, this is what happens when you take your child to work and the child steals the gavel.