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well. if it actually happens I gladly eat my cynicism after all this time.
I wonder if this is going to result in the legal system chasing one 'big dog' to set a precedent of intolerance, then generally laying low as more minor offences continue. I.e. let's prosecute the president for corruption, then the public sees that 'America cares', then they resume allowing more minor acts of corruption. Sort of a Martha Stewart of politics rather than insider trading.
We’re talkin about the stormy bribe? Yeah the crime itself might not be major like our typical NCIS story, but the result of the crime was far more grave. A bribe to deny the public the truth about a candidate’s immorality is massive, and could impact the power of the Supreme Court for 35 years
Almost all crimes don’t bear more significance to the majority of the public than this one.
But the criminal liability of that bribe is a falsification of a state of NY business filing. The criminal liability of that with regards to fines and jail time is peanuts. I think POOTWH is more concerned with Melania cutting his balls of and his ability to do business in NY. That’s why he should perp walk in and out, making a grandiose statement before the microphones, snapping his suit jacket and hopping into a black tinted window SUV. But he’s too much of a pussy to do that. It’ll take years to go to trial.
Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor. I would certainly hope there is a felony in here. I wouldn't support this kind of grand jury nonsense for a misdemeanor. It wouldn't make any sense. There has to be something around laundering, wire fraud or the like.
tax fraud....deducting payoffs to sluts as legal fees
Is it tax fraud? Is that a deductible expense in some way?
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*IF* they're going to arrest him.... they would be absolutely foolish to do it on Tuesday. Not a chance. If they have the evidence and paperwork all ready to go, you go and issue an arrest warrant ASAP.
How much of a flight risk he is will be interesting, so I'm not sure if they intend on issuing an arrest warrant in the hopes he turns himself in, or they go full on raid mode and go get him. Either way.... they would be remarkably dumb to do it on Tuesday.
Trump is going to use this as he always does to his advantage no matter what. But do not do it on the Tuesday. ASAP.
He wants the 'protests' .. he is going to want to see violence because of this just like on Jan 6th.
What’s wrong with Tuesday? Isn’t it common for high profile people to arrange a time for them to turn themselves in? Even OJ, in a double murder, was allowed the luxury. Maybe this slid what happened. We’ll find out Tuesday I guess.
Do note its only he who is saying Tuesday. Grand Jury is still hearing witnesses.....
Yes, I haven't heard anyone say Tuesday but Trump. The comment wasn't is it going to happen on Tuesday, it was asking why do you (can't remember if it was you or someone else who said it) think Tuesday is a bad idea? But it was said arresting him on Tuesday is a bad idea. I don't see why it's any different than any other day.
News this morning that Trump's team is bringing a witness to the grand jury. So the indictment can't be locked in yet.
explain to me how trump can bring a witness to a grand jury proceeding? I thought only the target could testify?
I think he is being called by Bragg to cement Cohens testimony.
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well. if it actually happens I gladly eat my cynicism after all this time.
I wonder if this is going to result in the legal system chasing one 'big dog' to set a precedent of intolerance, then generally laying low as more minor offences continue. I.e. let's prosecute the president for corruption, then the public sees that 'America cares', then they resume allowing more minor acts of corruption. Sort of a Martha Stewart of politics rather than insider trading.
We’re talkin about the stormy bribe? Yeah the crime itself might not be major like our typical NCIS story, but the result of the crime was far more grave. A bribe to deny the public the truth about a candidate’s immorality is massive, and could impact the power of the Supreme Court for 35 years
Almost all crimes don’t bear more significance to the majority of the public than this one.
But the criminal liability of that bribe is a falsification of a state of NY business filing. The criminal liability of that with regards to fines and jail time is peanuts. I think POOTWH is more concerned with Melania cutting his balls of and his ability to do business in NY. That’s why he should perp walk in and out, making a grandiose statement before the microphones, snapping his suit jacket and hopping into a black tinted window SUV. But he’s too much of a pussy to do that. It’ll take years to go to trial.
Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor. I would certainly hope there is a felony in here. I wouldn't support this kind of grand jury nonsense for a misdemeanor. It wouldn't make any sense. There has to be something around laundering, wire fraud or the like.
tax fraud....deducting payoffs to sluts as legal fees
think he was paying out as consulting fees to the campaign.
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well. if it actually happens I gladly eat my cynicism after all this time.
I wonder if this is going to result in the legal system chasing one 'big dog' to set a precedent of intolerance, then generally laying low as more minor offences continue. I.e. let's prosecute the president for corruption, then the public sees that 'America cares', then they resume allowing more minor acts of corruption. Sort of a Martha Stewart of politics rather than insider trading.
We’re talkin about the stormy bribe? Yeah the crime itself might not be major like our typical NCIS story, but the result of the crime was far more grave. A bribe to deny the public the truth about a candidate’s immorality is massive, and could impact the power of the Supreme Court for 35 years
Almost all crimes don’t bear more significance to the majority of the public than this one.
But the criminal liability of that bribe is a falsification of a state of NY business filing. The criminal liability of that with regards to fines and jail time is peanuts. I think POOTWH is more concerned with Melania cutting his balls of and his ability to do business in NY. That’s why he should perp walk in and out, making a grandiose statement before the microphones, snapping his suit jacket and hopping into a black tinted window SUV. But he’s too much of a pussy to do that. It’ll take years to go to trial.
Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor. I would certainly hope there is a felony in here. I wouldn't support this kind of grand jury nonsense for a misdemeanor. It wouldn't make any sense. There has to be something around laundering, wire fraud or the like.
tax fraud....deducting payoffs to sluts as legal fees
Is it tax fraud? Is that a deductible expense in some way?
I'm not sure they will try to prosecute that angle but tax fraud might only be a misdemeanor in NY anyway.
But I remember reading that the payment to Cohen was "grossed up" which to me means that Cohen knew he couldn't deduct the payment on his return so tRump bore the brunt of the tax hit by paying Cohen for the lost deduction.
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*IF* they're going to arrest him.... they would be absolutely foolish to do it on Tuesday. Not a chance. If they have the evidence and paperwork all ready to go, you go and issue an arrest warrant ASAP.
How much of a flight risk he is will be interesting, so I'm not sure if they intend on issuing an arrest warrant in the hopes he turns himself in, or they go full on raid mode and go get him. Either way.... they would be remarkably dumb to do it on Tuesday.
Trump is going to use this as he always does to his advantage no matter what. But do not do it on the Tuesday. ASAP.
He wants the 'protests' .. he is going to want to see violence because of this just like on Jan 6th.
What’s wrong with Tuesday? Isn’t it common for high profile people to arrange a time for them to turn themselves in? Even OJ, in a double murder, was allowed the luxury. Maybe this slid what happened. We’ll find out Tuesday I guess.
Do note its only he who is saying Tuesday. Grand Jury is still hearing witnesses.....
Yes, I haven't heard anyone say Tuesday but Trump. The comment wasn't is it going to happen on Tuesday, it was asking why do you (can't remember if it was you or someone else who said it) think Tuesday is a bad idea? But it was said arresting him on Tuesday is a bad idea. I don't see why it's any different than any other day.
News this morning that Trump's team is bringing a witness to the grand jury. So the indictment can't be locked in yet.
explain to me how trump can bring a witness to a grand jury proceeding? I thought only the target could testify?
I think he is being called by Bragg to cement Cohens testimony.
POOTWH’s attorney asked Bragg that he be allowed to testify to counter Cohen’s testimony. Professional courtesy and probably avoids grounds for appeal upon indictment. Funny thing is, POOTWH could testify and clear everything up.
*IF* they're going to arrest him.... they would be absolutely foolish to do it on Tuesday. Not a chance. If they have the evidence and paperwork all ready to go, you go and issue an arrest warrant ASAP.
How much of a flight risk he is will be interesting, so I'm not sure if they intend on issuing an arrest warrant in the hopes he turns himself in, or they go full on raid mode and go get him. Either way.... they would be remarkably dumb to do it on Tuesday.
Trump is going to use this as he always does to his advantage no matter what. But do not do it on the Tuesday. ASAP.
He wants the 'protests' .. he is going to want to see violence because of this just like on Jan 6th.
What’s wrong with Tuesday? Isn’t it common for high profile people to arrange a time for them to turn themselves in? Even OJ, in a double murder, was allowed the luxury. Maybe this slid what happened. We’ll find out Tuesday I guess.
Do note its only he who is saying Tuesday. Grand Jury is still hearing witnesses.....
Yes, I haven't heard anyone say Tuesday but Trump. The comment wasn't is it going to happen on Tuesday, it was asking why do you (can't remember if it was you or someone else who said it) think Tuesday is a bad idea? But it was said arresting him on Tuesday is a bad idea. I don't see why it's any different than any other day.
News this morning that Trump's team is bringing a witness to the grand jury. So the indictment can't be locked in yet.
explain to me how trump can bring a witness to a grand jury proceeding? I thought only the target could testify?
I think he is being called by Bragg to cement Cohens testimony.
POOTWH’s attorney asked Bragg that he be allowed to testify to counter Cohen’s testimony. Professional courtesy and probably avoids grounds for appeal upon indictment. Funny thing is, POOTWH could testify and clear everything up.
From WaPo:
Cohen’s former adviser, Robert Costello, said he was asked by Bragg’s team to appear in front of the grand jury panel in Lower Manhattan on Monday afternoon — but Costello noted the request originally came from Trump’s legal team.Under New York law, those expecting to be indicted can ask for witnesses to appear before grand juries on their behalf.
*IF* they're going to arrest him.... they would be absolutely foolish to do it on Tuesday. Not a chance. If they have the evidence and paperwork all ready to go, you go and issue an arrest warrant ASAP.
How much of a flight risk he is will be interesting, so I'm not sure if they intend on issuing an arrest warrant in the hopes he turns himself in, or they go full on raid mode and go get him. Either way.... they would be remarkably dumb to do it on Tuesday.
Trump is going to use this as he always does to his advantage no matter what. But do not do it on the Tuesday. ASAP.
He wants the 'protests' .. he is going to want to see violence because of this just like on Jan 6th.
What’s wrong with Tuesday? Isn’t it common for high profile people to arrange a time for them to turn themselves in? Even OJ, in a double murder, was allowed the luxury. Maybe this slid what happened. We’ll find out Tuesday I guess.
Do note its only he who is saying Tuesday. Grand Jury is still hearing witnesses.....
Yes, I haven't heard anyone say Tuesday but Trump. The comment wasn't is it going to happen on Tuesday, it was asking why do you (can't remember if it was you or someone else who said it) think Tuesday is a bad idea? But it was said arresting him on Tuesday is a bad idea. I don't see why it's any different than any other day.
News this morning that Trump's team is bringing a witness to the grand jury. So the indictment can't be locked in yet.
explain to me how trump can bring a witness to a grand jury proceeding? I thought only the target could testify?
I think he is being called by Bragg to cement Cohens testimony.
POOTWH’s attorney asked Bragg that he be allowed to testify to counter Cohen’s testimony. Professional courtesy and probably avoids grounds for appeal upon indictment. Funny thing is, POOTWH could testify and clear everything up.
From WaPo:
Cohen’s former adviser, Robert Costello, said he was asked by Bragg’s team to appear in front of the grand jury panel in Lower Manhattan on Monday afternoon — but Costello noted the request originally came from Trump’s legal team.Under New York law, those expecting to be indicted can ask for witnesses to appear before grand juries on their behalf.
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Former President Donald Trump and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis
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Atlanta-area prosecutors are considering bringing racketeering and conspiracy charges in connection with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation.
Investigators have a large volume of substantial evidence related
to a possible conspiracy from inside and outside the state, including
recordings of phone calls, emails, text messages, documents, and
testimony before a special grand jury.
Their work, the source said, underscores the belief that the push
to help Trump was not just a grassroots effort that originated inside
the state.
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Trump calls for protests, but even supporters dismiss idea
By ERIC TUCKER and MICHAEL KUNZELMAN
59 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Donald Trump’s calls for protests ahead of his anticipated indictment in New York have generated mostly muted reactions from supporters, with even some of his most ardent loyalists dismissing the idea as a waste of time or a law enforcement trap.
The ambivalence raises questions about whether Trump, though a leading Republican contender in the 2024 presidential race who retains a devoted following, still has the power to mobilize far-right supporters the way he did more than two years ago before the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. It also suggests that the hundreds of arrests that followed the Capitol riot, not to mention the convictions and long prison sentences, may have dampened the desire for repeat mass unrest.
Still, law enforcement in New York is continuing to closely monitor online chatter warning of protests and violence if Trump is arrested, with threats varying in specificity and credibility, four officials told The Associated Press. Mainly posted online and in chat groups, the messages have included calls for armed protesters to block law enforcement officers and attempt to stop any potential arrest, the officials said.
Around the time the Manhattan courthouse complex opened Monday morning, a New York Police Department truck began dropping off dozens of portable metal barricades that could be used to block off streets or sidewalks.
The New York Young Republican Club has announced plans for a protest at an undisclosed location in Manhattan on Monday, and incendiary but isolated posts surfaced on fringe social media platforms from supporters calling for an armed confrontation with law enforcement at Trump's Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago.
But nearly two days after Trump claimed on his Truth Social platform that he expected to be arrested on Tuesday and exhorted followers to protest, there were few signs his appeal had inspired his supporters to organize and rally around an event like the Jan. 6 gathering. In fact, a prominent organizer of rallies that preceded the Capitol riot posted on Twitter that he intended to remain on the sidelines.
Ali Alexander, who as an organizer of the “Stop the Steal” movement staged rallies to promote Trump’s baseless claims that Democrats stole the 2020 election from him, warned Trump supporters that they would be "jailed or worse” if they protested in New York City.
“You have no liberty or rights there,” he tweeted.
One of Alexander’s allies in the “Stop the Steal” campaign was conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who amplified the election fraud claims on his Infowars show. Alexander posted that he had spoken to Jones and said that neither of them would be protesting this time around.
“We’ve both got enough going on fighting the government,” Alexander wrote. “No billionaire is covering our bills.”
That stands in contrast to the days before the Capitol riot when Trump stoked up supporters when he invited them to Washington for a “big protest” on a Jan. 6, tweeting, “Be there, will be wild!” Thousands of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol that day, busting through windows and violently clashing with officers in an ultimately failed effort to stop the congressional certification of Democrat Joe Biden's victory.
Since then, about 1,000 participants have been arrested, many racking up steep legal bills and expressing regret and contrition in court for their actions. Some have complained of feeling abandoned by Trump. And conspiracy theories that the riot was fueled or even set up by undercover law enforcement informants in the crowd have continued to flourish online, with Trump supporters citing that angst as a basis for steering clear of a new large-scale protest.
“How many Feds/Fed assets are in place to turn protest against the political arrest of Pres Trump into violence?” tweeted Rep. Marjorie-Taylor Greene. The Georgia Republican also invoked a conspiracy theory that an FBI informant had instigated the Jan. 6 riot.
“Has Ray Epps booked his flight to NY yet?” she tweeted on Sunday.
Epps, an Arizona man, was filmed encouraging others to enter the Capitol. Conspiracy theorists believe Epps was an FBI informant because he was removed from a Jan. 6 “wanted” list without being charged. In January, the House committee that investigated the Capitol attack said the claims about Epps were “unsupported.”
John Scott-Railton, a senior researcher at Citizen Lab who has tracked the “Stop the Steal” movement online, said anxiety over being entrapped by so-called agent provocateurs feeds a “paranoia that if they go and do violence, they may get caught and there may be consequences.”
“It seems to reduce a lot of people's willingness to make big statements about being willing to go out” and engage in violence, he said.
A grand jury is investigating hush money payments to women who alleged sexual encounters with Trump. Prosecutors have not said when their work might conclude or when charges could come. House Republicans on Monday wrote to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg seeking documents related to his inquiry, which they called “an unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority.”
The conflicted feelings over how far to support Trump in his fight against prosecution extends into the political realm, including among fellow Republicans seen as likely opponents in the 2024 race.
His own vice president, Mike Pence, who's expected to challenge Trump for the Republican nomination, castigated Trump in an ABC News interview this weekend as “reckless” for his actions on Jan. 6 and said history would hold him accountable — even as he echoed the former president's rhetoric that an indictment would be a “politically charged prosecution.”
“I have no doubt that President Trump knows how to take care of himself. And he will. But that doesn’t make it right to have a politically charged prosecution of a former president of the United States of America,” Pence said.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, an expected GOP presidential candidate, criticized the Trump investigation on Monday as politically motivated but also threw one of his first jabs at the former president in a move likely to intensify their simmering political rivalry.
“I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some kind of alleged affair. I can’t speak to that,” DeSantis said at a news conference in Panama City.
But, he added, "what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who is ignoring crimes happening every single day in his jurisdiction and he chooses to go back many, many years ago to try to use something about porn star hush money payments, that’s an example of pursuing a political agenda and weaponizing the office. And I think that’s fundamentally wrong.”
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Kunzelman reported from Silver Spring, Md. Associated Press writers Colleen Long and Michael Balsamo in Washington, Farnoush Amiri in Orlando, Fla., Anthony Izaguirre in Tallahassee, Fla., and Larry Neumeister in New York contributed to this report.
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well. if it actually happens I gladly eat my cynicism after all this time.
I wonder if this is going to result in the legal system chasing one 'big dog' to set a precedent of intolerance, then generally laying low as more minor offences continue. I.e. let's prosecute the president for corruption, then the public sees that 'America cares', then they resume allowing more minor acts of corruption. Sort of a Martha Stewart of politics rather than insider trading.
We’re talkin about the stormy bribe? Yeah the crime itself might not be major like our typical NCIS story, but the result of the crime was far more grave. A bribe to deny the public the truth about a candidate’s immorality is massive, and could impact the power of the Supreme Court for 35 years
Almost all crimes don’t bear more significance to the majority of the public than this one.
But the criminal liability of that bribe is a falsification of a state of NY business filing. The criminal liability of that with regards to fines and jail time is peanuts. I think POOTWH is more concerned with Melania cutting his balls of and his ability to do business in NY. That’s why he should perp walk in and out, making a grandiose statement before the microphones, snapping his suit jacket and hopping into a black tinted window SUV. But he’s too much of a pussy to do that. It’ll take years to go to trial.
Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor. I would certainly hope there is a felony in here. I wouldn't support this kind of grand jury nonsense for a misdemeanor. It wouldn't make any sense. There has to be something around laundering, wire fraud or the like.
tax fraud....deducting payoffs to sluts as legal fees
Is it tax fraud? Is that a deductible expense in some way?
well. if it actually happens I gladly eat my cynicism after all this time.
I wonder if this is going to result in the legal system chasing one 'big dog' to set a precedent of intolerance, then generally laying low as more minor offences continue. I.e. let's prosecute the president for corruption, then the public sees that 'America cares', then they resume allowing more minor acts of corruption. Sort of a Martha Stewart of politics rather than insider trading.
We’re talkin about the stormy bribe? Yeah the crime itself might not be major like our typical NCIS story, but the result of the crime was far more grave. A bribe to deny the public the truth about a candidate’s immorality is massive, and could impact the power of the Supreme Court for 35 years
Almost all crimes don’t bear more significance to the majority of the public than this one.
But the criminal liability of that bribe is a falsification of a state of NY business filing. The criminal liability of that with regards to fines and jail time is peanuts. I think POOTWH is more concerned with Melania cutting his balls of and his ability to do business in NY. That’s why he should perp walk in and out, making a grandiose statement before the microphones, snapping his suit jacket and hopping into a black tinted window SUV. But he’s too much of a pussy to do that. It’ll take years to go to trial.
Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor. I would certainly hope there is a felony in here. I wouldn't support this kind of grand jury nonsense for a misdemeanor. It wouldn't make any sense. There has to be something around laundering, wire fraud or the like.
tax fraud....deducting payoffs to sluts as legal fees
Is it tax fraud? Is that a deductible expense in some way?
I'm not sure they will try to prosecute that angle but tax fraud might only be a misdemeanor in NY anyway.
But I remember reading that the payment to Cohen was "grossed up" which to me means that Cohen knew he couldn't deduct the payment on his return so tRump bore the brunt of the tax hit by paying Cohen for the lost deduction.
in the business record the multiple payments to cohen were for "retainer" and he was not officially on retainer. that is how this was all caught, because cohen was not officially on retainer to trump org. just trump himself apparently.
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Trump loses last bid to keep key evidence out of rape trial
By LARRY NEUMEISTER
Today
NEW YORK (AP) — Former President Donald Trump’s effort to keep key evidence out of his civil rape trial next month was rejected by a federal judge Monday.
Judge Lewis A. Kaplan in Manhattan ruled that key witnesses will be allowed to testify and misogynistic remarks Trump made about women in 2005 when he apparently didn’t realize he was being recorded can be played for a jury that will hear quarter-century-old rape allegations made by a former magazine columnist.
A trial in the case filed by E. Jean Carroll is scheduled to start April 25. Carroll and Trump are expected to testify.
Carroll said in a 2019 memoir that she was raped by Trump in the mid-1990s in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman, an upscale Manhattan department store. She said a chance encounter filled with lighthearted banter turned violent when they entered a small room while teasing one another about who would try on a piece of lingerie.
Trump has repeatedly insisted he never met Carroll at the store and that he didn't know who she was. During an October deposition, he misidentified a decades-old photograph of her as one of his ex-wives.
In the deposition, Trump was dismissive of Carroll’s claims, saying: “Physically she’s not my type."
Kaplan had previously ruled that taped remarks Trump made in an “Access Hollywood” tape could be used in a defamation case Carroll brought against him before she filed a rape claim against him in November, when a temporary law took effect allowing adult rape victims to sue their abusers, even if attacks happened decades ago.
He also ruled that two women who made sexual abuse claims in circumstances similar to those alleged by Carroll could testify at trial.
The Access Hollywood tape was revealed just weeks before Trump won the November 2016 presidential election.
In the tape, he said that sometimes when he sees beautiful women: “I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.” And he added that, “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything,” including grabbing women between their legs.
Afterward, he issued a rare apology, saying the comments were “locker room banter” caught on a hot mic.
Lawyers for Trump and Carroll had agreed that the defamation claim, made in a separate lawsuit, could be tried along with the rape claim, but the judge rejected that proposal Monday, saying the defamation lawsuit could be tried separately or not at all if the Justice Department successfully replaces Trump as a defendant with the United States.
In an order Monday, Kaplan ruled specifically that he would allow the “Access Hollywood” tape and testimony by two other women who say Trump attacked them sexually to be included in next month's trial, repeating his rulings from the defamation case.
“There is no reason, and Mr. Trump has made no persuasive argument, for me to rule differently,” he wrote.
He also said he will allow testimony from two individuals who worked at the department store at the time of the alleged rape to testify, even though Trump's lawyers objected, saying they hadn't been notified in a timely fashion of the testimony and hadn't had a chance to depose the witnesses.
The judge said lawyers for Carroll had notified them of the witnesses in a timely fashion.
Roberta Kaplan, a lawyer for Carroll, declined comment. A lawyer for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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*IF* they're going to arrest him.... they would be absolutely foolish to do it on Tuesday. Not a chance. If they have the evidence and paperwork all ready to go, you go and issue an arrest warrant ASAP.
How much of a flight risk he is will be interesting, so I'm not sure if they intend on issuing an arrest warrant in the hopes he turns himself in, or they go full on raid mode and go get him. Either way.... they would be remarkably dumb to do it on Tuesday.
Trump is going to use this as he always does to his advantage no matter what. But do not do it on the Tuesday. ASAP.
He wants the 'protests' .. he is going to want to see violence because of this just like on Jan 6th.
What’s wrong with Tuesday? Isn’t it common for high profile people to arrange a time for them to turn themselves in? Even OJ, in a double murder, was allowed the luxury. Maybe this slid what happened. We’ll find out Tuesday I guess.
Do note its only he who is saying Tuesday. Grand Jury is still hearing witnesses.....
Yes, I haven't heard anyone say Tuesday but Trump. The comment wasn't is it going to happen on Tuesday, it was asking why do you (can't remember if it was you or someone else who said it) think Tuesday is a bad idea? But it was said arresting him on Tuesday is a bad idea. I don't see why it's any different than any other day.
It's a bad idea because this is completely unprecedented. A former leader of the free world telling his supporters what's going to happen and to protest has never happened in America. That's why it's a bad idea. The justice system should not do anything to prove him correct.
To the best of my knowledge, they've already poured a lot of money and personnel in securing New York and Washington simply because of this stupid tweet, or truth or whatever you wanna call it.
Trump is watching these people dance like puppets on a string.
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Did anyone even gather to support him? He's just doing whatever he can to try and stay in the news.
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Did anyone even gather to support him? He's just doing whatever he can to try and stay in the news.
Hopefully this guy diesn’t have very many listeners:
’Pete Santilli, a right-wing radio host, advocated recently on his show for the execution of former President Barack Obamaalong with former Attorney General Eric Holder and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice if former President Donald Trumpis indicted this week — as Trump has claimed he will be.’
Did anyone even gather to support him? He's just doing whatever he can to try and stay in the news.
Hopefully this guy diesn’t have very many listeners:
’Pete Santilli, a right-wing radio host, advocated recently on his show for the execution of former President Barack Obamaalong with former Attorney General Eric Holder and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice if former President Donald Trumpis indicted this week — as Trump has claimed he will be.’
Did anyone even gather to support him? He's just doing whatever he can to try and stay in the news.
Hopefully this guy diesn’t have very many listeners:
’Pete Santilli, a right-wing radio host, advocated recently on his show for the execution of former President Barack Obamaalong with former Attorney General Eric Holder and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice if former President Donald Trumpis indicted this week — as Trump has claimed he will be.’
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The second call might be worse than the first...
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explain to me how trump can bring a witness to a grand jury proceeding? I thought only the target could testify?
I think he is being called by Bragg to cement Cohens testimony.
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think he was paying out as consulting fees to the campaign.
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But I remember reading that the payment to Cohen was "grossed up" which to me means that Cohen knew he couldn't deduct the payment on his return so tRump bore the brunt of the tax hit by paying Cohen for the lost deduction.
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Cohen’s former adviser, Robert Costello, said he was asked by Bragg’s team to appear in front of the grand jury panel in Lower Manhattan on Monday afternoon — but Costello noted the request originally came from Trump’s legal team. Under New York law, those expecting to be indicted can ask for witnesses to appear before grand juries on their behalf.
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this is going to end very well....
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Georgia prosecutors considering racketeering and conspiracy charges in probe of effort to overturn Trump’s 2020 loss, source says
Atlanta-area prosecutors are considering bringing racketeering and conspiracy charges in connection with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation.
Investigators have a large volume of substantial evidence related to a possible conspiracy from inside and outside the state, including recordings of phone calls, emails, text messages, documents, and testimony before a special grand jury.
Their work, the source said, underscores the belief that the push to help Trump was not just a grassroots effort that originated inside the state.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Former President Donald Trump’s calls for protests ahead of his anticipated indictment in New York have generated mostly muted reactions from supporters, with even some of his most ardent loyalists dismissing the idea as a waste of time or a law enforcement trap.
The ambivalence raises questions about whether Trump, though a leading Republican contender in the 2024 presidential race who retains a devoted following, still has the power to mobilize far-right supporters the way he did more than two years ago before the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. It also suggests that the hundreds of arrests that followed the Capitol riot, not to mention the convictions and long prison sentences, may have dampened the desire for repeat mass unrest.
Still, law enforcement in New York is continuing to closely monitor online chatter warning of protests and violence if Trump is arrested, with threats varying in specificity and credibility, four officials told The Associated Press. Mainly posted online and in chat groups, the messages have included calls for armed protesters to block law enforcement officers and attempt to stop any potential arrest, the officials said.
Around the time the Manhattan courthouse complex opened Monday morning, a New York Police Department truck began dropping off dozens of portable metal barricades that could be used to block off streets or sidewalks.
The New York Young Republican Club has announced plans for a protest at an undisclosed location in Manhattan on Monday, and incendiary but isolated posts surfaced on fringe social media platforms from supporters calling for an armed confrontation with law enforcement at Trump's Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago.
But nearly two days after Trump claimed on his Truth Social platform that he expected to be arrested on Tuesday and exhorted followers to protest, there were few signs his appeal had inspired his supporters to organize and rally around an event like the Jan. 6 gathering. In fact, a prominent organizer of rallies that preceded the Capitol riot posted on Twitter that he intended to remain on the sidelines.
Ali Alexander, who as an organizer of the “Stop the Steal” movement staged rallies to promote Trump’s baseless claims that Democrats stole the 2020 election from him, warned Trump supporters that they would be "jailed or worse” if they protested in New York City.
“You have no liberty or rights there,” he tweeted.
One of Alexander’s allies in the “Stop the Steal” campaign was conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who amplified the election fraud claims on his Infowars show. Alexander posted that he had spoken to Jones and said that neither of them would be protesting this time around.
“We’ve both got enough going on fighting the government,” Alexander wrote. “No billionaire is covering our bills.”
That stands in contrast to the days before the Capitol riot when Trump stoked up supporters when he invited them to Washington for a “big protest” on a Jan. 6, tweeting, “Be there, will be wild!” Thousands of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol that day, busting through windows and violently clashing with officers in an ultimately failed effort to stop the congressional certification of Democrat Joe Biden's victory.
Since then, about 1,000 participants have been arrested, many racking up steep legal bills and expressing regret and contrition in court for their actions. Some have complained of feeling abandoned by Trump. And conspiracy theories that the riot was fueled or even set up by undercover law enforcement informants in the crowd have continued to flourish online, with Trump supporters citing that angst as a basis for steering clear of a new large-scale protest.
“How many Feds/Fed assets are in place to turn protest against the political arrest of Pres Trump into violence?” tweeted Rep. Marjorie-Taylor Greene. The Georgia Republican also invoked a conspiracy theory that an FBI informant had instigated the Jan. 6 riot.
“Has Ray Epps booked his flight to NY yet?” she tweeted on Sunday.
Epps, an Arizona man, was filmed encouraging others to enter the Capitol. Conspiracy theorists believe Epps was an FBI informant because he was removed from a Jan. 6 “wanted” list without being charged. In January, the House committee that investigated the Capitol attack said the claims about Epps were “unsupported.”
John Scott-Railton, a senior researcher at Citizen Lab who has tracked the “Stop the Steal” movement online, said anxiety over being entrapped by so-called agent provocateurs feeds a “paranoia that if they go and do violence, they may get caught and there may be consequences.”
“It seems to reduce a lot of people's willingness to make big statements about being willing to go out” and engage in violence, he said.
A grand jury is investigating hush money payments to women who alleged sexual encounters with Trump. Prosecutors have not said when their work might conclude or when charges could come. House Republicans on Monday wrote to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg seeking documents related to his inquiry, which they called “an unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority.”
The conflicted feelings over how far to support Trump in his fight against prosecution extends into the political realm, including among fellow Republicans seen as likely opponents in the 2024 race.
His own vice president, Mike Pence, who's expected to challenge Trump for the Republican nomination, castigated Trump in an ABC News interview this weekend as “reckless” for his actions on Jan. 6 and said history would hold him accountable — even as he echoed the former president's rhetoric that an indictment would be a “politically charged prosecution.”
“I have no doubt that President Trump knows how to take care of himself. And he will. But that doesn’t make it right to have a politically charged prosecution of a former president of the United States of America,” Pence said.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, an expected GOP presidential candidate, criticized the Trump investigation on Monday as politically motivated but also threw one of his first jabs at the former president in a move likely to intensify their simmering political rivalry.
“I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some kind of alleged affair. I can’t speak to that,” DeSantis said at a news conference in Panama City.
But, he added, "what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who is ignoring crimes happening every single day in his jurisdiction and he chooses to go back many, many years ago to try to use something about porn star hush money payments, that’s an example of pursuing a political agenda and weaponizing the office. And I think that’s fundamentally wrong.”
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Kunzelman reported from Silver Spring, Md. Associated Press writers Colleen Long and Michael Balsamo in Washington, Farnoush Amiri in Orlando, Fla., Anthony Izaguirre in Tallahassee, Fla., and Larry Neumeister in New York contributed to this report.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
he, a private citizen, is calling on his supporters to engage in political violence. that has to be a crime in and of itself, correct?
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NEW YORK (AP) — Former President Donald Trump’s effort to keep key evidence out of his civil rape trial next month was rejected by a federal judge Monday.
Judge Lewis A. Kaplan in Manhattan ruled that key witnesses will be allowed to testify and misogynistic remarks Trump made about women in 2005 when he apparently didn’t realize he was being recorded can be played for a jury that will hear quarter-century-old rape allegations made by a former magazine columnist.
A trial in the case filed by E. Jean Carroll is scheduled to start April 25. Carroll and Trump are expected to testify.
Carroll said in a 2019 memoir that she was raped by Trump in the mid-1990s in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman, an upscale Manhattan department store. She said a chance encounter filled with lighthearted banter turned violent when they entered a small room while teasing one another about who would try on a piece of lingerie.
Trump has repeatedly insisted he never met Carroll at the store and that he didn't know who she was. During an October deposition, he misidentified a decades-old photograph of her as one of his ex-wives.
In the deposition, Trump was dismissive of Carroll’s claims, saying: “Physically she’s not my type."
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Kaplan had previously ruled that taped remarks Trump made in an “Access Hollywood” tape could be used in a defamation case Carroll brought against him before she filed a rape claim against him in November, when a temporary law took effect allowing adult rape victims to sue their abusers, even if attacks happened decades ago.
He also ruled that two women who made sexual abuse claims in circumstances similar to those alleged by Carroll could testify at trial.
The Access Hollywood tape was revealed just weeks before Trump won the November 2016 presidential election.
In the tape, he said that sometimes when he sees beautiful women: “I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.” And he added that, “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything,” including grabbing women between their legs.
Afterward, he issued a rare apology, saying the comments were “locker room banter” caught on a hot mic.
Lawyers for Trump and Carroll had agreed that the defamation claim, made in a separate lawsuit, could be tried along with the rape claim, but the judge rejected that proposal Monday, saying the defamation lawsuit could be tried separately or not at all if the Justice Department successfully replaces Trump as a defendant with the United States.
In an order Monday, Kaplan ruled specifically that he would allow the “Access Hollywood” tape and testimony by two other women who say Trump attacked them sexually to be included in next month's trial, repeating his rulings from the defamation case.
“There is no reason, and Mr. Trump has made no persuasive argument, for me to rule differently,” he wrote.
He also said he will allow testimony from two individuals who worked at the department store at the time of the alleged rape to testify, even though Trump's lawyers objected, saying they hadn't been notified in a timely fashion of the testimony and hadn't had a chance to depose the witnesses.
The judge said lawyers for Carroll had notified them of the witnesses in a timely fashion.
Roberta Kaplan, a lawyer for Carroll, declined comment. A lawyer for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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I don't know what's going to happen today, the self imposed "NYC ARREST" day.
This case starting on 0425 is the REAL REAL.
Fucking douchebag.
To the best of my knowledge, they've already poured a lot of money and personnel in securing New York and Washington simply because of this stupid tweet, or truth or whatever you wanna call it.
Trump is watching these people dance like puppets on a string.
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’Pete Santilli, a right-wing radio host, advocated recently on his show for the execution of former President Barack Obamaalong with former Attorney General Eric Holder and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice if former President Donald Trumpis indicted this week — as Trump has claimed he will be.’
Definitely not a cult.
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Meaning he lied again...anyone surprised?
Haha! Too funny!