#46 President Joe Biden

Ledbetterman10

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

Did Covid originate from a lab in Chiiiiiiiina?

tbergs

Ledbetterman10 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

People pondering something and people spreading misinformation are very different things. This still seems to be hard for many to grasp. Latching on to someone's stream of conscience as possible evidence/fact on either subject is what was targeted. Conspiracy theories usually have at least one small portion of their origin that are either in the gray or unable to be completely refuted, but that doesn't mean we should allow them to run rampant. I can't believe this needs to be explained.

mrussel1

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

You posted two polls that took place in the past, not contemporaneously.  How do you say "America is waking up" and post things from two years ago?  That doesn't make sense.  Post something from the last few weeks that prove your statement. 

Ledbetterman10

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

People pondering something and people spreading misinformation are very different things. This still seems to be hard for many to grasp. Latching on to someone's stream of conscience as possible evidence/fact on either subject is what was targeted. Conspiracy theories usually have at least one small portion of their origin that are either in the gray or unable to be completely refuted, but that doesn't mean we should allow them to run rampant. I can't believe this needs to be explained.

Many scientists with every bit as much credibility as Fauci theorized that the virus might have come from a lab. “Pondering something” as you say. But if you shared those essays on social media, it was censored as Covid misinformation.  

As for the laptop, I don’t know much about the particulars of what’s alleged to be on it so I won’t speculate. But it’s been long reported that there might be something, and that was “Russian disinformation” until the NYT “confirmed” it. 

mrussel1

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

People pondering something and people spreading misinformation are very different things. This still seems to be hard for many to grasp. Latching on to someone's stream of conscience as possible evidence/fact on either subject is what was targeted. Conspiracy theories usually have at least one small portion of their origin that are either in the gray or unable to be completely refuted, but that doesn't mean we should allow them to run rampant. I can't believe this needs to be explained.

Many scientists with every bit as much credibility as Fauci theorized that the virus might have come from a lab. “Pondering something” as you say. But if you shared those essays on social media, it was censored as Covid misinformation.  

As for the laptop, I don’t know much about the particulars of what’s alleged to be on it so I won’t speculate. But it’s been long reported that there might be something, and that was “Russian disinformation” until the NYT “confirmed” it. 

If it was censored, how do you know about it?  There are so many sources of information today, you can find what you want and most of it are lies.  Again, Fox News says it's the "most watched" yet unless Twitter and Facebook are forced to post things (as a private company), it's censored?  Give me a fucking break.  Too many snowflakes. 

HughFreakingDillon

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

HughFreakingDillon

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

People pondering something and people spreading misinformation are very different things. This still seems to be hard for many to grasp. Latching on to someone's stream of conscience as possible evidence/fact on either subject is what was targeted. Conspiracy theories usually have at least one small portion of their origin that are either in the gray or unable to be completely refuted, but that doesn't mean we should allow them to run rampant. I can't believe this needs to be explained.

Many scientists with every bit as much credibility as Fauci theorized that the virus might have come from a lab. “Pondering something” as you say. But if you shared those essays on social media, it was censored as Covid misinformation.  

As for the laptop, I don’t know much about the particulars of what’s alleged to be on it so I won’t speculate. But it’s been long reported that there might be something, and that was “Russian disinformation” until the NYT “confirmed” it. 

even fauci said it was possible, but that it was unlikely and until it's proven, it's useless to speculate, and not only useless, it's dangerous from what we already saw of racists and how asians were being treated simply because that's where the virus was first discovered/reported. 

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

People pondering something and people spreading misinformation are very different things. This still seems to be hard for many to grasp. Latching on to someone's stream of conscience as possible evidence/fact on either subject is what was targeted. Conspiracy theories usually have at least one small portion of their origin that are either in the gray or unable to be completely refuted, but that doesn't mean we should allow them to run rampant. I can't believe this needs to be explained.

Many scientists with every bit as much credibility as Fauci theorized that the virus might have come from a lab. “Pondering something” as you say. But if you shared those essays on social media, it was censored as Covid misinformation.  

As for the laptop, I don’t know much about the particulars of what’s alleged to be on it so I won’t speculate. But it’s been long reported that there might be something, and that was “Russian disinformation” until the NYT “confirmed” it. 

even fauci said it was possible, but that it was unlikely and until it's proven, it's useless to speculate, and not only useless, it's dangerous from what we already saw of racists and how asians were being treated simply because that's where the virus was first discovered/reported. 

Right,  and Asian hate crimes have shot up in the last two years.  73% fun 2020 to 21, 339% from 21 to 22.  That is horrible.  This isn't random.  Covid originating from Asia and these crimes are connected.  Maybe not 100%, but you'd have to be mental to think these stats are random.  So speculation isn't harmless. 

Ledbetterman10

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

People pondering something and people spreading misinformation are very different things. This still seems to be hard for many to grasp. Latching on to someone's stream of conscience as possible evidence/fact on either subject is what was targeted. Conspiracy theories usually have at least one small portion of their origin that are either in the gray or unable to be completely refuted, but that doesn't mean we should allow them to run rampant. I can't believe this needs to be explained.

Many scientists with every bit as much credibility as Fauci theorized that the virus might have come from a lab. “Pondering something” as you say. But if you shared those essays on social media, it was censored as Covid misinformation.  

As for the laptop, I don’t know much about the particulars of what’s alleged to be on it so I won’t speculate. But it’s been long reported that there might be something, and that was “Russian disinformation” until the NYT “confirmed” it. 

If it was censored, how do you know about it?  There are so many sources of information today, you can find what you want and most of it are lies.  Again, Fox News says it's the "most watched" yet unless Twitter and Facebook are forced to post things (as a private company), it's censored?  Give me a fucking break.  Too many snowflakes. 

This is ridiculous and you know it. Way more people these days get their news from links on Twitter than watch Fox News (or CNN and MSNBC for that matter). But even if that wasn’t the case, social media companies picking and choosing what can and can’t be shared is bullshit. Especially when you know it’s for partisan reasons. I’m sure you’d be singing a different tune if if was the other way around and the social media companies were doing the bidding of the conservatives. But I wouldn’t.  I’d be just as against the conservatives being the gatekeepers of what is or isn’t “misinformation” as I am that the liberals are. 

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Fucking Giuliani had it....not suppressed

The Juggler

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Buckle up. Republicans will continue to talk about it for years to come. This is what happens when you have no ideas. You double down on bullshit like this to rile up people like the trolls who pop in and out of here. 

JB16057

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Fucking Giuliani had it....not suppressed

How is this not suppression?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521823-50-former-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-post-story-sounds-like-russian

HughFreakingDillon

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

dankind said:

Do you have evidence that they are not?

So you just make off the cuff statements and they're true unless proven otherwise.  Okay.  I feel like you're not even trying here. 

I posted links to 2 different polls that no one here would accept as legit. That's fair enough.

The truth behind Hunter's laptop was being suppressed until now. America is seeing it and it's up to each person to decide if it matters or not.

Yeah the suppressing of the story on social media, and calling anyone that talked about it a “peddler of misinformation,” is complete bullshit. I have a bigger issue with that than whatever might actually be on the laptop. Too reminiscent of the Covid lab theory that was censored on social media. 

People pondering something and people spreading misinformation are very different things. This still seems to be hard for many to grasp. Latching on to someone's stream of conscience as possible evidence/fact on either subject is what was targeted. Conspiracy theories usually have at least one small portion of their origin that are either in the gray or unable to be completely refuted, but that doesn't mean we should allow them to run rampant. I can't believe this needs to be explained.

Many scientists with every bit as much credibility as Fauci theorized that the virus might have come from a lab. “Pondering something” as you say. But if you shared those essays on social media, it was censored as Covid misinformation.  

As for the laptop, I don’t know much about the particulars of what’s alleged to be on it so I won’t speculate. But it’s been long reported that there might be something, and that was “Russian disinformation” until the NYT “confirmed” it. 

If it was censored, how do you know about it?  There are so many sources of information today, you can find what you want and most of it are lies.  Again, Fox News says it's the "most watched" yet unless Twitter and Facebook are forced to post things (as a private company), it's censored?  Give me a fucking break.  Too many snowflakes. 

This is ridiculous and you know it. Way more people these days get their news from links on Twitter than watch Fox News (or CNN and MSNBC for that matter). But even if that wasn’t the case, social media companies picking and choosing what can and can’t be shared is bullshit. Especially when you know it’s for partisan reasons. I’m sure you’d be singing a different tune if if was the other way around and the social media companies were doing the bidding of the conservatives. But I wouldn’t.  I’d be just as against the conservatives being the gatekeepers of what is or isn’t “misinformation” as I am that the liberals are. 

so you want to control what a private company allows on their platform?

for the record, Trump and other R's were allowed WAY more leeway on social media over 4 years all in the name of "public interest" than anything covid related over the last 2. so no, it wasn't partisan reasons. it was the public spoke up that they didn't want that bullshit on those platforms anymore, and the platforms obliged. 

none of these companies make decisions like these unless there's enormous public pressure to do so. that's called marketing your product. 

The Juggler

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Fucking Giuliani had it....not suppressed

How is this not suppression?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521823-50-former-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-post-story-sounds-like-russian

How did Giuliani get it and how is a bipartisan group of intelligence officials voicing their opinion somehow suppression to you?

Also, how much longer will you cry about the 2020 election?

Halifax2TheMax

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Fucking Giuliani had it....not suppressed

How is this not suppression?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521823-50-former-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-post-story-sounds-like-russian

Do you even read the articles you link to? If you do, do you comprehend them?

HughFreakingDillon

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Fucking Giuliani had it....not suppressed

How is this not suppression?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521823-50-former-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-post-story-sounds-like-russian

a conservative's suppression is a liberal's due diligence. 

GUILIANI HANDED IT OVER TO THE POST, specifically because he knew they wouldn't try to verify its contents prior to reporting on it, and people voiced their concerns about that. how is it being suppressed?

tbergs

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Fucking Giuliani had it....not suppressed

How is this not suppression?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521823-50-former-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-post-story-sounds-like-russian

Read this. From 2020! But it was suppressed and covered up, right?

The complaints from President Donald Trump and his allies have been growing louder as the election approaches: Why isn’t the mainstream media covering the Hunter Biden laptop story?

Trump and his allies say there is evidence of corruption in emails and documents allegedly found on a laptop belonging to Democrat Joe Biden’s son. They say those and other documents show that Hunter Biden used his father’s influence to enrich himself through business deals in Ukraine and China, and that his father not only facilitated that, but may have benefited financially.

But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news organizations that have been given access to key documents — found that the emails and other records don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions about their provenance, the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both news organizations concluded.

As to Ukraine, a single email published by the New York Post suggests Joe Biden may have had a meeting with a representative of a Ukrainian company that employed his son. Trump and his allies alleged that means Joe Biden has lied when he said he never discussed his son’s business roles. The Biden campaign denies the meeting happened.

The lack of major new revelations is perhaps the biggest reason the story has not gotten traction, but not the only one. Among others: Most mainstream news organizations, including NBC News, have not been granted access to the documents. NBC News asked by email, text, phone call and certified mail, and was ultimately denied.

Another factor tamping down coverage of the story is that there isn’t much new in what the laptop documents appear to reveal. The allegation that Hunter Biden has traded on his family name has been thoroughly explored in previous news stories, including a lengthy New Yorker investigation last year in which Robert Weissman, the president of the advocacy group Public Citizen, said, “It’s hard to avoid the conclusion that Hunter’s foreign employers and partners were seeking to leverage Hunter’s relationship with Joe, either by seeking improper influence or to project access to him.” Reports published while the elder Biden was still vice president raised ethical questions about the Burisma deal.

While the question of whether Joe Biden enabled his son to profit from the vice president’s influence is relevant to the presidential campaign, issues of balance and proportionality also come into play.

Trump, according to the same good government advocates who have criticized Hunter Biden, is ethically challenged when it comes to appearing to use the power of his office to enrich himself and his family. David Farenthold of The Washington Post has used federal and other records to calculate that the federal government has spent at least $2.5 million on food and lodging at Trump properties since Trump took office. Earlier this month, Ben Sasse, a Republican senator from Nebraska who is up for re-election, told supporters that Trump’s family “has treated the presidency like a business opportunity.”

Yet stories about Trump’s children and their business dealings are not dominating the news cycle in the days before the election, because they have already been covered, just as the Hunter Biden story has been covered. (Trump’s tax information, on the other hand, has been covered extensively by The New York Times, because the secret tax data obtained by the newspaper revealed important new information about his tax payments and his business dealings.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533

Halifax2TheMax

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Fucking Giuliani had it....not suppressed

How is this not suppression?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521823-50-former-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-post-story-sounds-like-russian

a conservative's suppression is a liberal's due diligence. 

GUILIANI HANDED IT OVER TO THE POST, specifically because he knew they wouldn't try to verify its contents prior to reporting on it, and people voiced their concerns about that. how is it being suppressed?

The NYT reporting that NY Post reporters had reservations regarding the veracity of the contents of Hunter’s laptop = suppression, duh.

JB16057

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

haven't we been hearing about hunter's laptop for over 2 years now? how has this been suppressed?

Fucking Giuliani had it....not suppressed

How is this not suppression?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521823-50-former-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-post-story-sounds-like-russian

a conservative's suppression is a liberal's due diligence. 

GUILIANI HANDED IT OVER TO THE POST, specifically because he knew they wouldn't try to verify its contents prior to reporting on it, and people voiced their concerns about that. how is it being suppressed?

Almost every major news outlet pushed that it was Russian disinformation.

You're right, Giuliani handed it over to the Post who was then suppressed online from talking about out freely.