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Pearl Jam and Philosophy (New Book Coming Out November)

igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,991
edited March 2021 in The Porch
New book coming out next year.
https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/pearl-jam-and-philosophy-9781501362798/?fbclid=IwAR3qeqNW9JUu6lHgyjMDP3RzMyeKCETIs3HqkTVjr0Qwsg6IqS69oBaoNwQ

Pearl Jam and Philosophy Hardcover – November 4, 2021 by Stefano Marino (Editor), Andrea Schembari (Editor)
http://amzn.to/3cjRAQn


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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535
    List price: $120.00

    Damn!
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,991
    edited October 2020
    Stefano Marino
    In 2021, 30th anniversary of "Ten", we will celebrate the anniversary with the very first book of philosophical interpretations of the songs of Pearl Jam: "Pearl Jam and Philosophy", Bloomsbury Academic Publishing, forthcoming :)


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  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,423
    demetrios said:
    List price: $120.00

    Damn!
    Yeah, but what's the shipping cost?

    Too soon?
  • SM236947SM236947 Posts: 2
    The list price is higher than the average new book because it's coming from the academic publishing side of Bloomsbury. A lot of university and other academic libraries purchase at that initial price point. It's like the prices video rental stores paid for new VHS tapes back in the day. Depending on the publisher/title, some academic books eventually have a lower price point, especially if the book has a paperback printing.

    That said, I don't know anything specific about the price/publishing of this book. But I suspect that many regulars won't be disappointed if they make the $120 investment...

    As a contributor, though, I am really excited! There's going to be lots of great stuff on a variety of topics. For me, it was finally a chance to write about some ideas and thoughts that had been rolling around in my head for years.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535
    SM236947 said:
    The list price is higher than the average new book because it's coming from the academic publishing side of Bloomsbury. A lot of university and other academic libraries purchase at that initial price point. It's like the prices video rental stores paid for new VHS tapes back in the day. Depending on the publisher/title, some academic books eventually have a lower price point, especially if the book has a paperback printing.

    That said, I don't know anything specific about the price/publishing of this book. But I suspect that many regulars won't be disappointed if they make the $120 investment...

    As a contributor, though, I am really excited! There's going to be lots of great stuff on a variety of topics. For me, it was finally a chance to write about some ideas and thoughts that had been rolling around in my head for years.

    Thanks for clarifying. If I can get a copy here in Canada then I'll be happy. :) 
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,991
    From the same people putting out Not For You Pearl Jam and the Present Tense 
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  • stemarinostemarino Posts: 10
    edited October 2020
    Yes, I understand that the price of the hardcover version of the forthcoming collection of essays 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy', edited by Andrea Schembari and me as both academic scholars and long-time Pearl Jam fans, is very high, and - as already noted in one of the comments above - this depends on the fact that the book is coming from the academic publishing side of Bloomsbury, and this is not unusual for academic books that are often purchased at that initial price by university and other academic libraries. 
    I have recently finished working at another collection of essays, in that case on Immanuel Kant's philosophy rather than on the philosophical contents and implications in Pearl Jam songs, and also the price of the hardcover version of the Kant book, published by a German academic publisher, is very high. So, as I said, this is not unusual for academic books. https://www.degruyter.com/view/title/537494
    As editors of this book and also authors of two chapters included in it, we surely hope that the publisher may decide after some months to also have a paperback printing at a lower price, but please understand that this does not depend on us as authors or editors of the book, but it only depends on the publisher.
    As editor of this book and author of one of its chapters, I fully agree with what I have read in the comment above. It is really exciting, as an academic scholar of philosophy and at the same time a long-time Pearl Jam fan ever since my teens, to work at this book which allowed to all of us, the authors of the single essays collected in 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy', to write about some ideas and thoughts that had been rolling around in our heads for years or even decades.
    As we learn from the refrain of 'Even Flow', sometimes 'thoughts arrive like butterflies' and indeed the idea to plan, realize and publish a book like this came to my and Andrea's minds while we were in Firenze in June 2017, waiting for Eddie Vedder to go on stage and perform his - absolutely unforgettable - solo concert at the 'Firenze Rocks' festival. We were there, waiting for the concert to start, and we suddenly thought 'Well, we are academic scholars, we write articles and books on a variety of philosophical and literary topics for our work, when we were young our lives were saved by Pearl Jam - freely referring to Lou Reed's famous song 'Rock 'n' Roll', of course -, and there are so many philosophical aspects that can be found in so many Pearl Jam songs, so one day we should definitely write a book on Pearl Jam and philosophy'. We are so happy, sincerely happy, that our idea spontaneously emerged before Eddie Vedder's concert in Firenze 2017 finally became a book, that we are currently working at and that we will publish in 2021, for the 30th anniversary of 'Ten'.
    Thanks for your interest in our project, ciao :)
    Stefano
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  • PJamminPJammin Posts: 606
    Just to confirm - the preorder is for an actual hardcopy version of the book, correct? At first glance it appears to reference the e-book .

  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    stemarino said:
    Yes, I understand that the price of the hardcover version of the forthcoming collection of essays 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy', edited by Andrea Schembari and me as both academic scholars and long-time Pearl Jam fans, is very high, and - as already noted in one of the comments above - this depends on the fact that the book is coming from the academic publishing side of Bloomsbury, and this is not unusual for academic books that are often purchased at that initial price by university and other academic libraries. 
    I have recently finished working at another collection of essays, in that case on Immanuel Kant's philosophy rather than on the philosophical contents and implications in Pearl Jam songs, and also the price of the hardcover version of the Kant book, published by a German academic publisher, is very high. So, as I said, this is not unusual for academic books. https://www.degruyter.com/view/title/537494
    As editors of this book and also authors of two chapters included in it, we surely hope that the publisher may decide after some months to also have a paperback printing at a lower price, but please understand that this does not depend on us as authors or editors of the book, but it only depends on the publisher.
    As editor of this book and author of one of its chapters, I fully agree with what I have read in the comment above. It is really exciting, as an academic scholar of philosophy and at the same time a long-time Pearl Jam fan ever since my teens, to work at this book which allowed to all of us, the authors of the single essays collected in 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy', to write about some ideas and thoughts that had been rolling around in our heads for years or even decades.
    As we learn from the refrain of 'Even Flow', sometimes 'thoughts arrive like butterflies' and indeed the idea to plan, realize and publish a book like this came to my and Andrea's minds while we were in Firenze in June 2017, waiting for Eddie Vedder to go on stage and perform his - absolutely unforgettable - solo concert at the 'Firenze Rocks' festival. We were there, waiting for the concert to start, and we suddenly thought 'Well, we are academic scholars, we write articles and books on a variety of philosophical and literary topics for our work, when we were young our lives were saved by Pearl Jam - freely referring to Lou Reed's famous song 'Rock 'n' Roll', of course -, and there are some many philosophical aspects that can be found in so many Pearl Jam songs, so one day we should definitely write a book on Pearl Jam and philosophy'. We are so happy, sincerely happy, that our idea spontaneously emerged before Eddie Vedder's concert in Firenze 2017 finally became a book, that we are currently working at and that we will publish in 2021, for the 30th anniversary of 'Ten'.
    Thanks for your interest in our project, ciao :)
    Stefano
    This is an interesting project, and I look forward to its release.  I was getting my BS in philosophy when Riot Act came out, which seemed apropos.
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  • stemarinostemarino Posts: 10
    You are right, I just looked at the publisher's website and it is not clear whether they refer to the hardcover printed version of the book or the e-book... I am sorry for this, which obviously does not depend on the book's authors but on the publisher's website.. I will try to check and let you know.
    Beside this, should it be of interest for anyone here, this summer I briefly talked about the project of the book 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy' and the idea itself of a philosophical interpretation of Pearl Jam songs during a TV program, now available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diayxtzF8wI
    Thanks again for your interest and best wishes.
    Stefano
  • stemarinostemarino Posts: 10
    Vitalogensia said:
    stemarino said:
    Yes, I understand that the price of the hardcover version of the forthcoming collection of essays 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy', edited by Andrea Schembari and me as both academic scholars and long-time Pearl Jam fans, is very high, and - as already noted in one of the comments above - this depends on the fact that the book is coming from the academic publishing side of Bloomsbury, and this is not unusual for academic books that are often purchased at that initial price by university and other academic libraries. 
    I have recently finished working at another collection of essays, in that case on Immanuel Kant's philosophy rather than on the philosophical contents and implications in Pearl Jam songs, and also the price of the hardcover version of the Kant book, published by a German academic publisher, is very high. So, as I said, this is not unusual for academic books. https://www.degruyter.com/view/title/537494
    As editors of this book and also authors of two chapters included in it, we surely hope that the publisher may decide after some months to also have a paperback printing at a lower price, but please understand that this does not depend on us as authors or editors of the book, but it only depends on the publisher.
    As editor of this book and author of one of its chapters, I fully agree with what I have read in the comment above. It is really exciting, as an academic scholar of philosophy and at the same time a long-time Pearl Jam fan ever since my teens, to work at this book which allowed to all of us, the authors of the single essays collected in 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy', to write about some ideas and thoughts that had been rolling around in our heads for years or even decades.
    As we learn from the refrain of 'Even Flow', sometimes 'thoughts arrive like butterflies' and indeed the idea to plan, realize and publish a book like this came to my and Andrea's minds while we were in Firenze in June 2017, waiting for Eddie Vedder to go on stage and perform his - absolutely unforgettable - solo concert at the 'Firenze Rocks' festival. We were there, waiting for the concert to start, and we suddenly thought 'Well, we are academic scholars, we write articles and books on a variety of philosophical and literary topics for our work, when we were young our lives were saved by Pearl Jam - freely referring to Lou Reed's famous song 'Rock 'n' Roll', of course -, and there are some many philosophical aspects that can be found in so many Pearl Jam songs, so one day we should definitely write a book on Pearl Jam and philosophy'. We are so happy, sincerely happy, that our idea spontaneously emerged before Eddie Vedder's concert in Firenze 2017 finally became a book, that we are currently working at and that we will publish in 2021, for the 30th anniversary of 'Ten'.
    Thanks for your interest in our project, ciao :)
    Stefano
    This is an interesting project, and I look forward to its release.  I was getting my BS in philosophy when Riot Act came out, which seemed apropos.
    "Riot Act" is a very philosophical album, in my view!
    It is so rich, complex, stimulating and challenging: one of my favorite PJ records, definitely.
    Thanks for defining our project about PJ and philosophy "interesting", I was happy to read your comment: we are doing our best to publish a book that can be of some interest for both readers of philosophy and fans of PJ.
    Best, Stefano

  • PJamminPJammin Posts: 606
    stemarino said:
    You are right, I just looked at the publisher's website and it is not clear whether they refer to the hardcover printed version of the book or the e-book... I am sorry for this, which obviously does not depend on the book's authors but on the publisher's website.. I will try to check and let you know.
    Beside this, should it be of interest for anyone here, this summer I briefly talked about the project of the book 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy' and the idea itself of a philosophical interpretation of Pearl Jam songs during a TV program, now available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diayxtzF8wI
    Thanks again for your interest and best wishes.
    Stefano
    Thanks Stefano. Yes, it would be great to have confirmation of it being a hardcover edition. Hope all is well wherever you happen to be today.
  • PJamminPJammin Posts: 606
    And it looks like your Youtube video has now been blocked....bummer.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,991
    PJammin said:
    And it looks like your Youtube video has now been blocked....bummer.
    It's not blocked. You just have to watch it on YouTube and not here
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  • stemarinostemarino Posts: 10
    edited October 2020
    Sorry if the video was blocked here... I think that you can easily find it on YouTube, should you be interested in it. Thanks.
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  • stemarinostemarino Posts: 10
    PJammin said:
    Just to confirm - the preorder is for an actual hardcopy version of the book, correct? At first glance it appears to reference the e-book .

    Dear all, as promised, as co-editor of the forthcoming book 'Pearl Jam and Philosophy' I got in contact with the publisher and they told me that I can confirm that the price for the hardcover is $120, while the price for the ebook is $108. They also added that the price of the ebook will decrease once the paperback comes out, and they plan to release a paperback 18 months after hardcover publication. I hope this information may be useful for anyone in the community of Pearl Jam fans interested in our project of a collection of essays dealing with different philosophical aspects and implications that, in our view, as academic scholars and also long-time Pearl Jam fans, are present in the songs of this very special and indeed unique band. All the best, ciao. Stefano
  • PJamminPJammin Posts: 606
    Thanks for following up Stefano. I just checked the link above and when you add the item to the cart to preorder it continues to recognize it only as a purchase of an eBook for $120. Hopefully they will make that change on the site to recognize the purchase as being an actual hardcopy for $120 and not the eBook for $120. Thanks again for looking into this for us. 
  • PapPap Posts: 28,989
    igotid88 said:
    Stefano Marino
    In 2021, 30th anniversary of "Ten", we will celebrate the anniversary with the very first book of philosophical interpretations of the songs of Pearl Jam: "Pearl Jam and Philosophy", Bloomsbury Academic Publishing, forthcoming :)


    That should be good!
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535

    CDN $170.50

    The first scholarly discussion on the band, Pearl Jam and Philosophy examines both the songs (music and lyrics) and the activities (live performances, political commitments) of one of the most celebrated and charismatic rock bands of the last 30 years. The book investigates the philosophical aspects of their music at various levels: existential, spiritual, ethical, political, and aesthetic. This philosophical interpretation is also dependent on the application of textual and poetic analysis: the interdisciplinary volume puts philosophical aspects of the band's lyrics in close dialogue with 19th- and 20th-century European and American poetry. Through this widespread philosophical examination, the book further looks into the band's immense popularity and commercial success, their deeply loyal fanbase and genuine sense of community surrounding their music, and the pivotal place the band holds within popular music culture.

    • Publisher : Bloomsbury Academic (Nov. 4 2021)
    • Language : English
    • Hardcover : 256 pages
    • ISBN-10 : 150136278X
    • ISBN-13 : 978-1501362781
    • Item Weight : 788 g
    • Dimensions : 15.24 x 22.86 cm

  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535
    edited March 2021
    List price: $108.00
    Online price: $86.40
    Save $21.60 (20%)

    Table of contents

    Preface
    Theodore Gracyk, Minnesota State University, USA

    Introduction
    Stefano Marino, University of Bologna, Italy, and Andrea Schembari, Univesity of Szczecin, Poland

    1. Contingency, (In)significance, and the All-Encompassing Trip: Pearl Jam and the Question of the Meaning of Life
    Stefano Marino, University of Bologna, Italy

    2. “Just Like Innocence”: Pearl Jam and the (Re)Discovery of Hope
    Sam Morris, University of California, Santa Barbara, USA

    3. Who's the Elderly Band Behind the Counter in a Small Town?
    Radu Uszkai, Bucharest University of Economic Studies, Romania, and Mihail-Valentin Cernea, Bucharest University of Economic Studies, Romania

    4. Making a Choice When There Is No “Better Man”
    Laura M. Bernhardt, University of Southern Indiana, USA

    5. That's Where We're Living: Determinism and Free Will in “Unthought Known”
    Enrico Terrone, University of Torino, Italy

    6. No Code Aesthetics
    Alberto L. Siani, University of Pisa, Italy

    7. Can Truth Be Found in the Wild?
    Paolo Stellino, Nova Institute of Philosophy, Portugal

    8. “They Can Buy, But Can't Put On My Clothes”: Pearl Jam, Grunge, and Subcultural Authenticity in a Postmodern Fashion Climate
    Stephanie Kramer, Independent Scholar

    9. Pearl Jam's Ghosts: The Ethical Claim Made From the Exiled Space(s) of Homelessness and War-An Aesthetic Response-Ability
    Jacqueline Moulton, Institute for Doctoral Studies in the Visual Arts, USA

    10. Pearl Jam: Responsible Music or the Tragedy of Culture?
    Cristina Parapar, Sorbonne University (Paris IV), France

    11. Pearl Jam / Nirvana: A Dialectical Vortex that Revolves around the Void
    Alessandro Alfieri, Accademia Delle Belle Arti Di Roma, Italy

    12. The Tide on the Shell: Pearl Jam and the Aquatic Allegories of Existence
    Andrea Schembari, Univesity of Szczecin, Poland

    Index




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    US
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,991
    Very interesting 
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,989
    I'm probably buying this one when it will be released.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535
    Pap said:
    I'm probably buying this one when it will be released.

    Same here. But will keep an eye out when there is a good sale.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535
    https://www.amazon.co.jp/Pearl-Jam-Philosophy-Stefano-Marino/dp/150136278X
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,989
    Early career researcher discount? :smile:
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,991
    I hope the price drops. 
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,535
    igotid88 said:
    I hope the price drops. 

    Me too. It's right now $157.50 CDN over @ Amazon Canada.
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