"Filler Vitalogy Tracks"

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  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,219
    I don't mind the "fillers". I can (at least I think I can) understand why some were put on the albums. Funny side story, I was at work writing a computer program and listening to music on the PC there. Well, I apparently fell asleep and when I woke up, Stupid Mop was playing and it about scared me to death. I didn't know what was going on for a couple of seconds there.
  • happyhourhero
    happyhourhero Posts: 204
    i like the "filler" tracks on vitolagy, i think with out them vitalogy wouldn't be the same. as for the other "filler" tracks on other albums they are all awesome as well.
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    happyhourhero wrote:
    i like the "filler" tracks on vitolagy, i think with out them vitalogy wouldn't be the same. as for the other "filler" tracks on other albums they are all awesome as well.

    We have the exact same opinion! Except, sorry to who I offend, but fuck Writer's Block. That is a waste...
  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    I happen to like them all. Vitalogy is probably my favorite album. :)
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  • LimeDisease
    LimeDisease Posts: 89
    aye divinita is one of pjs finest moments actually, not filler at all, just has no words
  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    ToeJam wrote:
    and the only filler on No Code is "I'm Open".

    Heresy, I say!

    Anyway, I don't really mind Aye Davanita, and I think Stupid Mop is cool simply because it is creepy and unique... but Bugs and Pry, To don't work for me.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    danny72688 wrote:
    Who here likes the "filler" tracks on Vitalogy too? By "filler" I mean: Pry, to, Bugs, Aye Davanita, and Hey Foxymophandlemama, That's Me (Stupid Mop). Bugs is the only one I sometimes skip over just because I don't like the accordian that much (though when I'm in the mood I like it), but the other three I think are cool. Pry, to is a weird, short track that has a cool jam going. I especially love how creepy the last song is. And Aye Davanita is oddly catchy.

    Any thoughts from others about these four overlooked tracks?


    I like those tracks. The only "filler' on Vitalogy as far as I'm concerned is Betterman
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I like those tracks. The only "filler' on Vitalogy as far as I'm concerned is Betterman

    Better Man? Why is that "filler"?
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    LimeDisease wrote:
    aye divinita is one of pjs finest moments actually, not filler at all, just has no words

    Love Aye Davanita!
    DOSW wrote:
    Anyway, I don't really mind Aye Davanita, and I think Stupid Mop is cool simply because it is creepy and unique... but Bugs and Pry, To don't work for me.

    Stupid Mop is one of my favorites on the album because it's so weird. Something attracts me to it. Pry, To could've been something had it been longer, but what we get I like. And Bugs, well it doesn't BUG me ;)
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    MJSilvestri wrote:
    To me a filler track is a song you put on the album because you do not have enough songs to make it a full LP. This is not the case with these songs they are there for some artisitc purpose or another.

    Vitalogy is my favorite album and I feel that these tracks help give it the feel the band wanted more like an old 70s album...

    Absolutely agree :)
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    danny72688 wrote:
    Better Man? Why is that "filler"?

    Well "filler" might be a little harsh. first off, i don't like that song at all so I'm biased against it. Secondly and more importantly, I don't think it fits the tone of the album very well. I think the fact that it was written about 5 years before the rest of the REAL Vitalogy material might have something to do with it.

    I've always thought that Betterman would have been better off alone, like on the Merkinball EP or something. not too many people share this view with me though.
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Well "filler" might be a little harsh. first off, i don't like that song at all so I'm biased against it. Secondly and more importantly, I don't think it fits the tone of the album very well. I think the fact that it was written about 5 years before the rest of the REAL Vitalogy material might have something to do with it.

    I've always thought that Betterman would have been better off alone, like on the Merkinball EP or something. not too many people share this view with me though.

    I see exactly where you're coming from, however I think Better Man fits with Vitalogy.

    Reasons:
    *Creepy intro fits the theme of Vitalogy and with it flows great right from Satan's Bed, then ends on a note to flow right into Aye Davanita.
    *Lyrics fit the theme of Vitalogy
    *Upbeat music lulls you into a false sense of security about the song when it's something much darker (very Vitalogy in my opinion)
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    danny72688 wrote:
    Reasons:
    *Creepy intro fits the theme of Vitalogy and with it flows great right from Satan's Bed, then ends on a note to flow right into Aye Davanita.

    I've always thought that creepy intro is kinda tacked on. As if to say "see, this song has an odd intro so it belongs on this album.

    I know what you mean though. Everyone seems to love Betterman so i'm in a minority here. I'll take The Whale Song over it anyday.
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I've always thought that creepy intro is kinda tacked on. As if to say "see, this song has an odd intro so it belongs on this album.

    I know what you mean though. Everyone seems to love Betterman so i'm in a minority here. I'll take The Whale Song over it anyday.

    I love the Whale Song :)

    Yeah the intro does feel a bit forced, but I like how it starts like that, then changes into the same thing, but sounds happy. Better Man may have done better on Merkin Ball, but I like it on Vitalogy.

    You know, you got me thinking. I hate Better Man on the radio. I never hear that intro on the radio so it seems sort of fake to me. Wonder how it'd sound on Vitalogy WITHOUT the intro......
  • Dirty Hank
    Dirty Hank Posts: 15
    danny72688 wrote:
    Yeah I hate to admit but I think I only like 'em 'cause it's PJ... But that's actually a compliment to the band because no other band could've made them cool to me :). I'm also a fan of the other "fillers" on the rest of their CDs. Is it me or is it a trend for PJ to have an odd track on each album after Ten???

    I'm sorry..but Dirty Frank?! What was that?
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  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    For me, the fillers of vitalogy are part of the album and help to create the spirit of it. I'm pretty sure the album would sound different without these tracks... it goes with the cover, with the entire spirit behind vitalogy's concept...
    Still my favorite album, and I'm even listening to betterman right now...
    Fucking jesus, it's really the best album of all time... I was in antwerp (belgium) this week and they played 5 or 6 tracks of this album... i'm still shivering..
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Dirty Hank wrote:
    I'm sorry..but Dirty Frank?! What was that?

    It's a pretty cool song. That's what it is ;) I love that song! But yes, that one is a weird track, and from Ten!
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Julien wrote:
    For me, the fillers of vitalogy are part of the album and help to create the spirit of it. I'm pretty sure the album would sound different without these tracks... it goes with the cover, with the entire spirit behind vitalogy's concept...
    Still my favorite album, and I'm even listening to betterman right now...
    Fucking jesus, it's really the best album of all time... I was in antwerp (belgium) this week and they played 5 or 6 tracks of this album... i'm still shivering..

    Yeah Vitalogy would be weird without them! This album is very good if you can appreciate all the songs. I wish Pry, To was a bit longer, they had a good jam going.
    Which 6 songs did they play? Probably Corduroy, and Better Man. I'm too lazy to look right now.
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    djerdap wrote:
    Vitalogy is a concept album and these fillers contribute to the story of the album. Although I do believe Stupid Mop is simply too much...

    Bugs rules!!!

    I've been listening to Bugs a lot lately. Recently it's become so catchy :):D
    Stupid Mop is tough to swallow, but I love that song (before midnight - had some bad experience with that song over the summer ;)) The drums and guitar tidbits are awesome and really take you on a ride, and when the bass comes in... :) I love that "song".

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