"Filler Vitalogy Tracks"

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    danny72688 wrote:
    Better Man? Why is that "filler"?

    Well "filler" might be a little harsh. first off, i don't like that song at all so I'm biased against it. Secondly and more importantly, I don't think it fits the tone of the album very well. I think the fact that it was written about 5 years before the rest of the REAL Vitalogy material might have something to do with it.

    I've always thought that Betterman would have been better off alone, like on the Merkinball EP or something. not too many people share this view with me though.
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  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Well "filler" might be a little harsh. first off, i don't like that song at all so I'm biased against it. Secondly and more importantly, I don't think it fits the tone of the album very well. I think the fact that it was written about 5 years before the rest of the REAL Vitalogy material might have something to do with it.

    I've always thought that Betterman would have been better off alone, like on the Merkinball EP or something. not too many people share this view with me though.

    I see exactly where you're coming from, however I think Better Man fits with Vitalogy.

    Reasons:
    *Creepy intro fits the theme of Vitalogy and with it flows great right from Satan's Bed, then ends on a note to flow right into Aye Davanita.
    *Lyrics fit the theme of Vitalogy
    *Upbeat music lulls you into a false sense of security about the song when it's something much darker (very Vitalogy in my opinion)
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    danny72688 wrote:
    Reasons:
    *Creepy intro fits the theme of Vitalogy and with it flows great right from Satan's Bed, then ends on a note to flow right into Aye Davanita.

    I've always thought that creepy intro is kinda tacked on. As if to say "see, this song has an odd intro so it belongs on this album.

    I know what you mean though. Everyone seems to love Betterman so i'm in a minority here. I'll take The Whale Song over it anyday.
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  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    I've always thought that creepy intro is kinda tacked on. As if to say "see, this song has an odd intro so it belongs on this album.

    I know what you mean though. Everyone seems to love Betterman so i'm in a minority here. I'll take The Whale Song over it anyday.

    I love the Whale Song :)

    Yeah the intro does feel a bit forced, but I like how it starts like that, then changes into the same thing, but sounds happy. Better Man may have done better on Merkin Ball, but I like it on Vitalogy.

    You know, you got me thinking. I hate Better Man on the radio. I never hear that intro on the radio so it seems sort of fake to me. Wonder how it'd sound on Vitalogy WITHOUT the intro......
  • danny72688 wrote:
    Yeah I hate to admit but I think I only like 'em 'cause it's PJ... But that's actually a compliment to the band because no other band could've made them cool to me :). I'm also a fan of the other "fillers" on the rest of their CDs. Is it me or is it a trend for PJ to have an odd track on each album after Ten???

    I'm sorry..but Dirty Frank?! What was that?
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  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    For me, the fillers of vitalogy are part of the album and help to create the spirit of it. I'm pretty sure the album would sound different without these tracks... it goes with the cover, with the entire spirit behind vitalogy's concept...
    Still my favorite album, and I'm even listening to betterman right now...
    Fucking jesus, it's really the best album of all time... I was in antwerp (belgium) this week and they played 5 or 6 tracks of this album... i'm still shivering..
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  • Dirty Hank wrote:
    I'm sorry..but Dirty Frank?! What was that?

    It's a pretty cool song. That's what it is ;) I love that song! But yes, that one is a weird track, and from Ten!
  • Julien wrote:
    For me, the fillers of vitalogy are part of the album and help to create the spirit of it. I'm pretty sure the album would sound different without these tracks... it goes with the cover, with the entire spirit behind vitalogy's concept...
    Still my favorite album, and I'm even listening to betterman right now...
    Fucking jesus, it's really the best album of all time... I was in antwerp (belgium) this week and they played 5 or 6 tracks of this album... i'm still shivering..

    Yeah Vitalogy would be weird without them! This album is very good if you can appreciate all the songs. I wish Pry, To was a bit longer, they had a good jam going.
    Which 6 songs did they play? Probably Corduroy, and Better Man. I'm too lazy to look right now.
  • djerdap wrote:
    Vitalogy is a concept album and these fillers contribute to the story of the album. Although I do believe Stupid Mop is simply too much...

    Bugs rules!!!

    I've been listening to Bugs a lot lately. Recently it's become so catchy :):D
    Stupid Mop is tough to swallow, but I love that song (before midnight - had some bad experience with that song over the summer ;)) The drums and guitar tidbits are awesome and really take you on a ride, and when the bass comes in... :) I love that "song".
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