This further delay could be related to the Deep magazine. Shipping them with at least one copy of Deep will save a heap of money. I imagine there just isnt a copy of Deep done yet otherwise we would have got that with digital singles.
wasn't digital copies of deep made available with the digital singles back in April?
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This further delay could be related to the Deep magazine. Shipping them with at least one copy of Deep will save a heap of money. I imagine there just isnt a copy of Deep done yet otherwise we would have got that with digital singles.
wasn't digital copies of deep made available with the digital singles back in April?
I don’t think it would be more obvious they don’t care about getting these out even if band wrote a letter and said “don’t be a bunch of snowflakes, we don’t care about getting these out” and I still wouldn’t be more convinced than I am right now.
I don’t care about them having my concert money, that isn’t on them, the show will either happen or I will get a refund. Didn’t TM already offer refunds for those that wanted one?
This further delay could be related to the Deep magazine. Shipping them with at least one copy of Deep will save a heap of money. I imagine there just isnt a copy of Deep done yet otherwise we would have got that with digital singles.
wasn't digital copies of deep made available with the digital singles back in April?
This further delay could be related to the Deep magazine. Shipping them with at least one copy of Deep will save a heap of money. I imagine there just isnt a copy of Deep done yet otherwise we would have got that with digital singles.
wasn't digital copies of deep made available with the digital singles back in April?
Yeah I see the 2017 and 2018 Deep mags in my downloads. There goes that theory then. I probably forgot because I read them in print form but not interested in a pdf. Dont know what excuse they could give really for not delivering these then but they are happy selling new product.
I hope it’s a duet with side 1 being Ed and Biden singing Blood. Side 2 is Smile with Biden playing bass. Disc 2 is labeled side C/D to be “cool” and “counterculture.” The gatefold inner pic is just an explicit blurred out photo of a huge dump on a Polaroid of trumps face. Side C is the audio recording of Mike baking cupcakes and side D is just ocean sounds, recorded in an endless loop, with Howard Zinn talking about his favorite fast food.
I hope it’s a duet with side 1 being Ed and Biden singing Blood. Side 2 is Smile with Biden playing bass. Disc 2 is labeled side C/D to be “cool” and “counterculture.” The gatefold inner pic is just an explicit blurred out photo of a huge dump on a Polaroid of trumps face. Side C is the audio recording of Mike baking cupcakes and side D is just ocean sounds, recorded in an endless loop, with Howard Zinn talking about his favorite fast food.
I hope it’s a duet with side 1 being Ed and Biden singing Blood. Side 2 is Smile with Biden playing bass. Disc 2 is labeled side C/D to be “cool” and “counterculture.” The gatefold inner pic is just an explicit blurred out photo of a huge dump on a Polaroid of trumps face. Side C is the audio recording of Mike baking cupcakes and side D is just ocean sounds, recorded in an endless loop, with Howard Zinn talking about his favorite fast food.
So they can organise choosing, designing, pressing, manufacturing and distributing Vault #10, but not the fan club singles that are waaaaaaay overdue?
Other than the quantity, you’re right. They prob have to press like 50k of those singles (or more?) but only 15k of the vaults
Given that sending out these singles is going to generate zero USD for the band maybe they could subsidise the cost by using some of the profits they are making from the jacked-up postage costs on Vault #10?
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O2 Arena - Aug 18, 2009
Hyde Park - Jun 25, 2010
Manchester - #1 & #2, 2012
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Milton Keynes - July 11, 2014 EV: London - #1 & #2, 2017 O2 Arena - June 18, 2018 O2 Arena - June 19, 2018 O2 Arena - July 17, 2018 Hyde Park - July 10, 2020 Hyde Park - #1 & #2, 2021 (hopefully!)
So they can organise choosing, designing, pressing, manufacturing and distributing Vault #10, but not the fan club singles that are waaaaaaay overdue?
Other than the quantity, you’re right. They prob have to press like 50k of those singles (or more?) but only 15k of the vaults
Given that sending out these singles is going to generate zero USD for the band maybe they could subsidise the cost by using some of the profits they are making from the jacked-up postage costs on Vault #10?
They have already generated a ton of cash on these. We have paid for them including shipping.
So they can organise choosing, designing, pressing, manufacturing and distributing Vault #10, but not the fan club singles that are waaaaaaay overdue?
Other than the quantity, you’re right. They prob have to press like 50k of those singles (or more?) but only 15k of the vaults
Given that sending out these singles is going to generate zero USD for the band maybe they could subsidise the cost by using some of the profits they are making from the jacked-up postage costs on Vault #10?
You are into deep. Take a step back.
We have already generated the USD they wanted for them, for the band.
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They have already generated a ton of cash on these. We have paid for them including shipping.
Exactly my point. Completing this exercise generates nil USD for them, but will only incur costs - hence I believe is not seen as a priority. Don't get me wrong I love this band, but give us what we've been promised and have paid for months and years ago before you start selling 'reissued' Unplugged vinyl, cancelled tour posters, new Vaults and streamed shows.
Aloha Stadium - Dec 09, 2006
O2 Arena - Aug 18, 2009
Hyde Park - Jun 25, 2010
Manchester - #1 & #2, 2012
EV: London #1 & #2 2012
Leeds - July 8, 2014
Milton Keynes - July 11, 2014 EV: London - #1 & #2, 2017 O2 Arena - June 18, 2018 O2 Arena - June 19, 2018 O2 Arena - July 17, 2018 Hyde Park - July 10, 2020 Hyde Park - #1 & #2, 2021 (hopefully!)
Anyone else hoping they do something special to make up for the long wait?
I’m hoping....definitely not expecting or counting on it.
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I hope it’s a duet with side 1 being Ed and Biden singing Blood. Side 2 is Smile with Biden playing bass. Disc 2 is labeled side C/D to be “cool” and “counterculture.” The gatefold inner pic is just an explicit blurred out photo of a huge dump on a Polaroid of trumps face. Side C is the audio recording of Mike baking cupcakes and side D is just ocean sounds, recorded in an endless loop, with Howard Zinn talking about his favorite fast food.
Hidden bonus track:
Ed farting into a microphone backstage at The Spectrum 1st night October 27th 2009
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I just got my reminder that my digital membership auto renewed. So now I'm on my 2nd year of digital, and still no singles from my old analog days.... lol.
Dumb. Really lame at this point. I try not to get aggravated at small stuff but lately this bugs me. Just the blatant releasing of other stuff while not making this happen is just rude and uncool. Blahhhhhh bla blahhh
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Anyone else hoping they do something special to make up for the long wait?
I’m hoping....definitely not expecting or counting on it.
Hoping - yes.
Expecting - nope. Based on where we are with it and the communication along the way, I don't expect them to do anything special. They can;t even meet their commitments for non-special, prepaid items.
Unrelated but a reminder (mystery box) of how great 10c/JEFF/pj can be. All those picks, signed guitars posters baseballs, was pretty fantastic. Maybe throw some picks in the singles if Jeff has another box laying around!
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So this would be the 2016/2017... I know I'm kidding myself here...they also owe us Deeps for 2018, 2019 and soon enough, 2020.
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O2 Arena - Aug 18, 2009
Hyde Park - Jun 25, 2010
Manchester - #1 & #2, 2012
EV: London #1 & #2 2012
Leeds - July 8, 2014
Milton Keynes - July 11, 2014
EV: London - #1 & #2, 2017
O2 Arena - June 18, 2018
O2 Arena - June 19, 2018
O2 Arena - July 17, 2018
Hyde Park - July 10, 2020
Hyde Park - #1 & #2, 2021 (hopefully!)
press like 50k of those singles (or more?) but only 15k of the vaults
O2 Arena - Aug 18, 2009
Hyde Park - Jun 25, 2010
Manchester - #1 & #2, 2012
EV: London #1 & #2 2012
Leeds - July 8, 2014
Milton Keynes - July 11, 2014
EV: London - #1 & #2, 2017
O2 Arena - June 18, 2018
O2 Arena - June 19, 2018
O2 Arena - July 17, 2018
Hyde Park - July 10, 2020
Hyde Park - #1 & #2, 2021 (hopefully!)
We have already generated the USD they wanted for them, for the band.
Don't get me wrong I love this band, but give us what we've been promised and have paid for months and years ago before you start selling 'reissued' Unplugged vinyl, cancelled tour posters, new Vaults and streamed shows.
O2 Arena - Aug 18, 2009
Hyde Park - Jun 25, 2010
Manchester - #1 & #2, 2012
EV: London #1 & #2 2012
Leeds - July 8, 2014
Milton Keynes - July 11, 2014
EV: London - #1 & #2, 2017
O2 Arena - June 18, 2018
O2 Arena - June 19, 2018
O2 Arena - July 17, 2018
Hyde Park - July 10, 2020
Hyde Park - #1 & #2, 2021 (hopefully!)
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10.03.04 Grand Rapids
10.05.05 Chicago
05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee
08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago
Hidden bonus track:
Ed farting into a microphone backstage at The Spectrum 1st night October 27th 2009
4-2-92
7-29-92
5-4-95 Hovercraft / Cleveland
8-26-98
4-25-03
5-20-06
8-21-08 E.V. Chicago
10-31-09 Philadelphia
5-09-10 Cleveland
5-10-10 Buffalo
6-26-11 E.V. Detroit
10-11-13 Pittsburgh
10-12-13 Buffalo
10-29-13 Charlottesville
4-18-16 Hampton
8-22-16 Chicago
Expecting - nope. Based on where we are with it and the communication along the way, I don't expect them to do anything special. They can;t even meet their commitments for non-special, prepaid items.
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