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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,826
    are you referring to the accident that left him paralyzed? he wasn't the driver, if so. but man, what a piece of garbage this guy is. he lied about the accident, saying the driver left him for dead, when in fact he saved his life by pulling him out of the burning vehicle, and then said the accident dogged his chances of being in the naval academy, but he was rejected before he got in the accident. 
    No, getting popped for speeding while his license was revoked. All the rules for thee nonsense we hear so much about until it’s one of their own. But yea, guy is a Deplorable. 
    yeah, no kidding. jeez
    Now imagine the majority of voters in his district that elected him to congress?

    well he has 7 primary challengers
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,629
    mickeyrat said:
    are you referring to the accident that left him paralyzed? he wasn't the driver, if so. but man, what a piece of garbage this guy is. he lied about the accident, saying the driver left him for dead, when in fact he saved his life by pulling him out of the burning vehicle, and then said the accident dogged his chances of being in the naval academy, but he was rejected before he got in the accident. 
    No, getting popped for speeding while his license was revoked. All the rules for thee nonsense we hear so much about until it’s one of their own. But yea, guy is a Deplorable. 
    yeah, no kidding. jeez
    Now imagine the majority of voters in his district that elected him to congress?

    well he has 7 primary challengers
    The midterms, primary and general, are going to be interesting. 7 primary opponents probably results in a run off and him getting re-elected. Hope not but it favors the incumbent.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,826
    mickeyrat said:
    are you referring to the accident that left him paralyzed? he wasn't the driver, if so. but man, what a piece of garbage this guy is. he lied about the accident, saying the driver left him for dead, when in fact he saved his life by pulling him out of the burning vehicle, and then said the accident dogged his chances of being in the naval academy, but he was rejected before he got in the accident. 
    No, getting popped for speeding while his license was revoked. All the rules for thee nonsense we hear so much about until it’s one of their own. But yea, guy is a Deplorable. 
    yeah, no kidding. jeez
    Now imagine the majority of voters in his district that elected him to congress?

    well he has 7 primary challengers
    The midterms, primary and general, are going to be interesting. 7 primary opponents probably results in a run off and him getting re-elected. Hope not but it favors the incumbent.
    historically, yes. but given him and the rest of the shit squad , we haven't seen this behavior before to rely on historical results as a predictor.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,629
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    are you referring to the accident that left him paralyzed? he wasn't the driver, if so. but man, what a piece of garbage this guy is. he lied about the accident, saying the driver left him for dead, when in fact he saved his life by pulling him out of the burning vehicle, and then said the accident dogged his chances of being in the naval academy, but he was rejected before he got in the accident. 
    No, getting popped for speeding while his license was revoked. All the rules for thee nonsense we hear so much about until it’s one of their own. But yea, guy is a Deplorable. 
    yeah, no kidding. jeez
    Now imagine the majority of voters in his district that elected him to congress?

    well he has 7 primary challengers
    The midterms, primary and general, are going to be interesting. 7 primary opponents probably results in a run off and him getting re-elected. Hope not but it favors the incumbent.
    historically, yes. but given him and the rest of the shit squad , we haven't seen this behavior before to rely on historical results as a predictor.

    That’s why it’s going to be interesting. Will the voters return these deplorables to congress knowing what they know now or will they swing back toward “civility” and some level of reasonableness, if you can call it that? If the former, it won’t bode well for 2024 and either POOTWH returning or someone more polished and made in his image, like Deathsantis (his hand motions aren’t an accident and neither is his dickishness)?
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,307
    Texas oh Tejas 
    https://twitter.com/donlew87/status/1502401113508749316?s=21
    death penalty for women & doctors at abortion clinics! Really Republicans are this putrid damn..
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,168
    kinzinger says his biggest regret is not voting to impeach trump over ukraine, or, impeachment #1.

    sorry man, too late. you had all the evidence right in front of you. you can carry the guilt the rest of your life.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,826
    kinzinger says his biggest regret is not voting to impeach trump over ukraine, or, impeachment #1.

    sorry man, too late. you had all the evidence right in front of you. you can carry the guilt the rest of your life.

    irrelevant.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,826
    Texas oh Tejas 
    https://twitter.com/donlew87/status/1502401113508749316?s=21
    death penalty for women & doctors at abortion clinics! Really Republicans are this putrid damn..


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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,629
    mickeyrat said:
    kinzinger says his biggest regret is not voting to impeach trump over ukraine, or, impeachment #1.

    sorry man, too late. you had all the evidence right in front of you. you can carry the guilt the rest of your life.

    irrelevant.
    What’s irrelevant?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,629
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,826
    mickeyrat said:
    kinzinger says his biggest regret is not voting to impeach trump over ukraine, or, impeachment #1.

    sorry man, too late. you had all the evidence right in front of you. you can carry the guilt the rest of your life.

    irrelevant.
    What’s irrelevant?

    whether he voted for or against impeachment.  it happened anyway. and no conviction cuz mitchy baby....
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,629
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    kinzinger says his biggest regret is not voting to impeach trump over ukraine, or, impeachment #1.

    sorry man, too late. you had all the evidence right in front of you. you can carry the guilt the rest of your life.

    irrelevant.
    What’s irrelevant?

    whether he voted for or against impeachment.  it happened anyway. and no conviction cuz mitchy baby....
    seems he’s trying to grow a spine, feels remorse and may finally realize the damage POOTWH did to this nation. Too little, too late. Fuck him.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,826
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    kinzinger says his biggest regret is not voting to impeach trump over ukraine, or, impeachment #1.

    sorry man, too late. you had all the evidence right in front of you. you can carry the guilt the rest of your life.

    irrelevant.
    What’s irrelevant?

    whether he voted for or against impeachment.  it happened anyway. and no conviction cuz mitchy baby....
    seems he’s trying to grow a spine, feels remorse and may finally realize the damage POOTWH did to this nation. Too little, too late. Fuck him.

    especially since he isnt running for 22....

    appreciate the jan 6 committee work but dude.....
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    Would love to see her bloody Trump up in a primary debate...


    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/politics/liz-cheney-trump-republican-fundraiser/

    Republican donors line up behind Liz Cheney as she takes on Trump



    Former President Donald Trump speaks at a rally on September 25 2021 in Perry Georgia Republican Senate candidate Herschel Walker Georgia Secretary of State candidate Rep Jody Hice R-GA and Georgia Lieutenant Gubernatorial candidate State Sen Burt Jones R-GA also appeared as guests at the rally


    (CNN)Bobbie and Bill Kilberg were expecting a few dozen people for their fundraiser Monday for GOP Rep. Liz Cheney, an intimate cocktail party they were planning at their home in McLean, Virginia.

    But in the weeks since the Republican National Committee voted to censure Cheney for her involvement in the ongoing House select committee investigation of the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, the couple was flooded with requests to come and meet the congresswoman and the event's special guest, Utah GOP Sen. Mitt Romney.
    So many people RSVP'd yes that Monday's event was moved to another, larger venue. The Kilbergs finally had to cap the list of co-hosts when it hit 75.
      The donor interest isn't all for Cheney's reelection bid for her House seat in Wyoming. More than two full years before the 2024 election, Cheney is emerging as the anti-Trump champion, and plenty of Republicans are glad to see it.
        "We are moving beyond Donald Trump," Bobbie Kilberg told CNN. "Enough, already. Enough's enough."
          Kilberg and other allies insist Cheney remains focused on her reelection to the House this year, which includes a daunting primary challenge from her onetime adviser Harriet Hageman. Trump has endorsed Hageman, who has all but cleared the field of Republican challengers, and defeating Cheney remains one of the former President's top priorities in the midterm cycle.
          But several Republicans have said it's not out of the question she could seek the GOP nomination for president if Trump runs again.
            "Would it surprise me? Not even in the slightest," said Landon Brown, a state representative in Wyoming and one of the few elected Republicans there publicly backing Cheney in the primary.
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            Through a spokesman, Cheney declined to comment for this story.
            Cheney's own activity suggests she is laying the groundwork for something more. Last year, she traveled to the early primary state of New Hampshire. She has been making speeches to national Republican organizations such as the centrist Ripon Society. And Cheney has demonstrated impressive fundraising prowess, including raising a personal record $2 million in the final quarter of 2021.
            "People respond to people who are principled and who stand up and are their own person," said former Republican Rep. Barbara Comstock of Virginia, who is attending the McLean fundraiser.
            Both George W. Bush and Romney, the two living Republican presidential nominees besides Trump, have raised money for Cheney's reelection effort, connecting her directly to their broad donor networks.
            Among the others on the fundraiser's invitation are several luminaries of the pre-Trump GOP and veterans of past Republican administrations, including Cheney's parents, former Vice President Dick Cheney and Lynne Cheney, and her sister, Mary, and Mary's wife, Heather.
            Also expected to attend are former Oklahoma Sen. Don Nickles, former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, former Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby, former presidential candidate and ex-Hewlett-Packard executive Carly Fiorina, former Solicitor General Ted Olson, conservative lawyer Miguel Estrada and former Massachusetts Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey, who served under Romney when he was governor of the Bay State.
            Cheney's alliance with Romney has drawn particular attention given his status as both an elder statesman and one of the most prominent elected Republicans to oppose Trump's influence on the party.
            "That baton has passed to Liz. She is the one," said one Republican operative who has spoken with Cheney occasionally.
            Despite her ouster from House GOP leadership last year, Cheney has enhanced her visibility in recent months. She has become a de facto spokeswoman for the anti-Trump wing of the party from her perch as the top Republican on the January 6 select committee -- a role that could elevate her further if the panel holds public hearings on its findings this year.
            The RNC's censure last month of Cheney and Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, the other Republican on the select committee, seems to have galvanized opponents and skeptics of Trump within the party to rally around Cheney. Comstock said that in the days following the censure, former RNC members and staff reached out to express their outrage about the move.
            But any pursuit of a White House bid would depend on Cheney's performance against Hageman in the Wyoming primary on August 16. Given Trump's animosity toward the congresswoman, the full power of his political operation could be directed toward her. And Hageman and her allies have seized on Cheney's connections to powerful Republicans in Washington.
            "As I have traveled throughout the state of Wyoming over the last six months, it has become very apparent to me that we are ready for new blood in Congress," Hageman said at a recent event in Cheyenne, Wyoming, with Kentucky GOP Sen. Rand Paul, a longtime critic of Cheney.
            Despite her considerable and growing campaign coffers, Cheney faces an uphill battle in Wyoming, the state Trump won by his widest margin in 2020.
            "She hasn't been really challenged hard," said Brown, the Wyoming state representative. "I don't think it's a shoo-in like it has been in the past."
              But the prospect of defeating the Trump machine through the Wyoming primary is what has party bigwigs opening their wallets. And if Cheney is successful?
              "I think she has all kinds of prospects," said Comstock.
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              Would love to see her bloody Trump up in a primary debate...


              https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/politics/liz-cheney-trump-republican-fundraiser/

              Republican donors line up behind Liz Cheney as she takes on Trump



              Former President Donald Trump speaks at a rally on September 25 2021 in Perry Georgia Republican Senate candidate Herschel Walker Georgia Secretary of State candidate Rep Jody Hice R-GA and Georgia Lieutenant Gubernatorial candidate State Sen Burt Jones R-GA also appeared as guests at the rally


              (CNN)Bobbie and Bill Kilberg were expecting a few dozen people for their fundraiser Monday for GOP Rep. Liz Cheney, an intimate cocktail party they were planning at their home in McLean, Virginia.

              But in the weeks since the Republican National Committee voted to censure Cheney for her involvement in the ongoing House select committee investigation of the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, the couple was flooded with requests to come and meet the congresswoman and the event's special guest, Utah GOP Sen. Mitt Romney.
              So many people RSVP'd yes that Monday's event was moved to another, larger venue. The Kilbergs finally had to cap the list of co-hosts when it hit 75.
                The donor interest isn't all for Cheney's reelection bid for her House seat in Wyoming. More than two full years before the 2024 election, Cheney is emerging as the anti-Trump champion, and plenty of Republicans are glad to see it.
                  "We are moving beyond Donald Trump," Bobbie Kilberg told CNN. "Enough, already. Enough's enough."
                    Kilberg and other allies insist Cheney remains focused on her reelection to the House this year, which includes a daunting primary challenge from her onetime adviser Harriet Hageman. Trump has endorsed Hageman, who has all but cleared the field of Republican challengers, and defeating Cheney remains one of the former President's top priorities in the midterm cycle.
                    But several Republicans have said it's not out of the question she could seek the GOP nomination for president if Trump runs again.
                      "Would it surprise me? Not even in the slightest," said Landon Brown, a state representative in Wyoming and one of the few elected Republicans there publicly backing Cheney in the primary.
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                      Through a spokesman, Cheney declined to comment for this story.
                      Cheney's own activity suggests she is laying the groundwork for something more. Last year, she traveled to the early primary state of New Hampshire. She has been making speeches to national Republican organizations such as the centrist Ripon Society. And Cheney has demonstrated impressive fundraising prowess, including raising a personal record $2 million in the final quarter of 2021.
                      "People respond to people who are principled and who stand up and are their own person," said former Republican Rep. Barbara Comstock of Virginia, who is attending the McLean fundraiser.
                      Both George W. Bush and Romney, the two living Republican presidential nominees besides Trump, have raised money for Cheney's reelection effort, connecting her directly to their broad donor networks.
                      Among the others on the fundraiser's invitation are several luminaries of the pre-Trump GOP and veterans of past Republican administrations, including Cheney's parents, former Vice President Dick Cheney and Lynne Cheney, and her sister, Mary, and Mary's wife, Heather.
                      Also expected to attend are former Oklahoma Sen. Don Nickles, former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, former Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby, former presidential candidate and ex-Hewlett-Packard executive Carly Fiorina, former Solicitor General Ted Olson, conservative lawyer Miguel Estrada and former Massachusetts Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey, who served under Romney when he was governor of the Bay State.
                      Cheney's alliance with Romney has drawn particular attention given his status as both an elder statesman and one of the most prominent elected Republicans to oppose Trump's influence on the party.
                      "That baton has passed to Liz. She is the one," said one Republican operative who has spoken with Cheney occasionally.
                      Despite her ouster from House GOP leadership last year, Cheney has enhanced her visibility in recent months. She has become a de facto spokeswoman for the anti-Trump wing of the party from her perch as the top Republican on the January 6 select committee -- a role that could elevate her further if the panel holds public hearings on its findings this year.
                      The RNC's censure last month of Cheney and Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, the other Republican on the select committee, seems to have galvanized opponents and skeptics of Trump within the party to rally around Cheney. Comstock said that in the days following the censure, former RNC members and staff reached out to express their outrage about the move.
                      But any pursuit of a White House bid would depend on Cheney's performance against Hageman in the Wyoming primary on August 16. Given Trump's animosity toward the congresswoman, the full power of his political operation could be directed toward her. And Hageman and her allies have seized on Cheney's connections to powerful Republicans in Washington.
                      "As I have traveled throughout the state of Wyoming over the last six months, it has become very apparent to me that we are ready for new blood in Congress," Hageman said at a recent event in Cheyenne, Wyoming, with Kentucky GOP Sen. Rand Paul, a longtime critic of Cheney.
                      Despite her considerable and growing campaign coffers, Cheney faces an uphill battle in Wyoming, the state Trump won by his widest margin in 2020.
                      "She hasn't been really challenged hard," said Brown, the Wyoming state representative. "I don't think it's a shoo-in like it has been in the past."
                        But the prospect of defeating the Trump machine through the Wyoming primary is what has party bigwigs opening their wallets. And if Cheney is successful?
                        "I think she has all kinds of prospects," said Comstock.


                        This time hopefully GOP has one strong candidate to run against trump, unlike 2016 when Kasich, Rubio, Cruz split the anti trump  vote. Their plurality system rewards the one who gets the most vote, even as low as 30% in a four way race, with ALL delegates from a state. That’s what made trump difficult to beat for the nom in 16.
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                        HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
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                        mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,826
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 

                        it doesnt help she isnt believable to begin with.
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                        Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,976
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
                        It just shows her stupidity. She should have corrected herself immediately.
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                        mickeyrat said:
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 

                        it doesnt help she isnt believable to begin with.
                        Give her a break. She's a high school drop out. 
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                        HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
                        It just shows her stupidity. She should have corrected herself immediately.
                        I wouldn't say stupidity. I'd call it ignorance. she misspoke. should all members of congress know all the ranks of people in the military? I don't know. but it's making a deal out of little things like this that give credence to people believing all the criticism of people like her is entirely partisan, when in reality most of it is justified. 
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                        Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,629
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
                        It just shows her stupidity. She should have corrected herself immediately.
                        I wouldn't say stupidity. I'd call it ignorance. she misspoke. should all members of congress know all the ranks of people in the military? I don't know. but it's making a deal out of little things like this that give credence to people believing all the criticism of people like her is entirely partisan, when in reality most of it is justified. 
                        If you’re going to heckle the POTUS during a SOTU and then double and triple down on it in the wingnutosphere echo chamber, then yes, she should know the ranks in the military, particularly if the alleged mother of a service member TOLD you. At least practice and write notes on your palm before stepping in front of the cameras.

                        I seem to remember a lot of yucks from a quote taken out of context and made in the form of “layman’s terms,” recently. Yo, both sides yo.
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                        Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,976
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
                        It just shows her stupidity. She should have corrected herself immediately.
                        I wouldn't say stupidity. I'd call it ignorance. she misspoke. should all members of congress know all the ranks of people in the military? I don't know. but it's making a deal out of little things like this that give credence to people believing all the criticism of people like her is entirely partisan, when in reality most of it is justified. 
                        Are you a card carrying member of the Boebert fan club? :smile:
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                        HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
                        It just shows her stupidity. She should have corrected herself immediately.
                        I wouldn't say stupidity. I'd call it ignorance. she misspoke. should all members of congress know all the ranks of people in the military? I don't know. but it's making a deal out of little things like this that give credence to people believing all the criticism of people like her is entirely partisan, when in reality most of it is justified. 
                        Are you a card carrying member of the Boebert fan club? :smile:
                        not sure if calling someone an unhinged tool qualifies me for their fan club, but......
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                        HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
                        It just shows her stupidity. She should have corrected herself immediately.
                        I wouldn't say stupidity. I'd call it ignorance. she misspoke. should all members of congress know all the ranks of people in the military? I don't know. but it's making a deal out of little things like this that give credence to people believing all the criticism of people like her is entirely partisan, when in reality most of it is justified. 
                        If you’re going to heckle the POTUS during a SOTU and then double and triple down on it in the wingnutosphere echo chamber, then yes, she should know the ranks in the military, particularly if the alleged mother of a service member TOLD you. At least practice and write notes on your palm before stepping in front of the cameras.

                        I seem to remember a lot of yucks from a quote taken out of context and made in the form of “layman’s terms,” recently. Yo, both sides yo.
                        yes, we can never judge anything on its own merit. it always has to be compared to the "other side". how about just debating the topic, instead of the constant whataboutisms?
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                        There are certain types of people who deserve the benefit of the doubt and those who do not. Boebert is the latter.
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                        it's not about "benefit of the doubt". it's about caring about something that matters. this ain't it. 
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                        Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,629
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
                        It just shows her stupidity. She should have corrected herself immediately.
                        I wouldn't say stupidity. I'd call it ignorance. she misspoke. should all members of congress know all the ranks of people in the military? I don't know. but it's making a deal out of little things like this that give credence to people believing all the criticism of people like her is entirely partisan, when in reality most of it is justified. 
                        If you’re going to heckle the POTUS during a SOTU and then double and triple down on it in the wingnutosphere echo chamber, then yes, she should know the ranks in the military, particularly if the alleged mother of a service member TOLD you. At least practice and write notes on your palm before stepping in front of the cameras.

                        I seem to remember a lot of yucks from a quote taken out of context and made in the form of “layman’s terms,” recently. Yo, both sides yo.
                        yes, we can never judge anything on its own merit. it always has to be compared to the "other side". how about just debating the topic, instead of the constant whataboutisms?
                        Ok, she didn’t misspeak. She’s a fucking idiot and a disgrace to the halls of Congress. Feel better?

                        Talk about “whataboutisms,” sheesh. Sure, give her “the benefit of the doubt.”
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                        RunIntoTheRainRunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,011
                        she later corrected herself in a tweet saying the correct title was "lance corporal". she's an unhinged tool, but I don't really care about silly mistakes like that. 
                        It just shows her stupidity. She should have corrected herself immediately.
                        I wouldn't say stupidity. I'd call it ignorance. she misspoke. should all members of congress know all the ranks of people in the military? I don't know. but it's making a deal out of little things like this that give credence to people believing all the criticism of people like her is entirely partisan, when in reality most of it is justified. 
                        @HughFreakingDillon the bolded part is exactly how I feel.
                        This is not a "whataboutism" at all IMHO

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