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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy Graham is having a tough row of it. Nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing ‘Ol Lindsey Flimsy lose. Okay, the PTAPE being released tomorrow, a week before the election, would but you can’t always get what you want.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    Does anyone remember “death panels?” Well, they’re here with a vengeance.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot! (Chris Jericho)Posts: 23,802
    lindsay graham losing would be the absolute best karmic turn of events ever. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,264
    lindsay graham losing would be the absolute best karmic turn of events ever. 

    Next to Moscow Mitch.  But that's not happening.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot! (Chris Jericho)Posts: 23,802
    OnWis97 said:
    lindsay graham losing would be the absolute best karmic turn of events ever. 

    Next to Moscow Mitch.  But that's not happening.
    i say lindsay because at least mitch has never wavered. he's the devil you know. lindsay is a pandering little weasel. he was one of trump's biggest critics until he won. then he almost immediately started kissing the ring (once mccain had passed). he's worse than mitch in that way. 

    mitch is still evil. but lindsay will kiss anyone's ass or sell out anyone to save his own skin. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s power of the pardon ain’t saving your sorry loser asses.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot! (Chris Jericho)Posts: 23,802
    if wohl goes to prison and trump loses? wohl senior will have an aneurysm. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 19,287
    utterly fucking ridiculous...

    Congressional candidates echo Trump’s response to election defeat - The Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/10/joe-biden-trump-election-live-updates/#link-5ERPPRT6TNAFTGVTUNQ43EAT2Y

    Errol Webber was never expected to have much of a chance at winning his race for Congress. The Republican had challenged a popular incumbent, Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.), in a deep-blue swath of Los Angeles, so it was no surprise returns showed him losing by more than 72 percentage points.

    But that did not stop Webber, a 33-year-old movie producer, from questioning the results in California’s 37th District in the House.

    “I’m going to the Los Angeles County Registrar’s Office in Norwalk today to audit the vote counting procedures,” he wrote Monday. “I will NOT concede. Every LEGAL vote needs to be counted!”

    It has become a familiar cry among losing GOP candidates in recent days, including from inside the White House. As President Trump makes unfounded allegations of voting fraud and demands a recount in the presidential election, his rhetoric and unwillingness to concede seem to be trickling down the ballot.

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    Despite having lost to their Democratic opponents by decisive margins last week, Webber and a few other Republican congressional candidates — all fervent Trump supporters — have followed his lead, refusing to concede and making their own baseless claims about the election.

    While several top Republicans have backed Trump’s efforts to contest his loss to President-elect Joe Biden, these candidates appear to be applying the president’s approach to their own Senate and House races.

    In Maryland, House candidate Kimberly Klacik (R) declared Sunday her campaign would “investigate” the results of her race against Rep. Kweisi Mfume (D-Md.), in which the incumbent trounced her by more than 40 points.

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    It was unclear how she would probe the results, and neither Klacik nor her campaign manager immediately responded to a request for comment from The Washington Post.

    Mfume had already defeated Klacik in an April special election following the death of Elijah E. Cummings, who previously held the Baltimore-area seat. But after Trump shared one of her provocative campaign ads on Twitter, the Republican’s fame and funds both surged earlier this year, The Post’s Meagan Flynn reported, earning her a speaking slot at the Republican National Convention in August.

    Still, she appeared to fare only slightly better in a rematch against Mfume last week. With an estimated 81 percent of votes counted, Klacik had claimed just over one-quarter, and according to the Baltimore Sun, was trailing him in returns for both mail-in and in-person voting on Election Day.

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    During the weekend, however, she made false claims about those results — with no evidence to back them up.

    “I beat my opponent on day of & in-person early voting, along with absentee. However, 97k mail in ballots were found in his favor?” she wrote Sunday, retweeting a post from Trump making baseless claims of a “stolen election.”

    Like Klacik, Republican Senate candidate John James, a 39-year-old businessman, has refused to concede in his Michigan race against Sen. Gary Peters (D).

    The heated contest was too close to call on Election Day. But by the evening of Nov. 4, Peters was winning by a sufficiently wide margin that the Associated Press called the race shortly after 9 p.m. As of early Tuesday, Peters maintained a lead of about 1.5 percent, or about 87,000 votes.

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    James said he would accept the final results “and the will of the people” once all ballots have been counted. But he also had “deep concerns that millions of Michiganders may have been disenfranchised by a dishonest few who cheat,” his campaign said in a statement Thursday that offered no evidence of such allegations.

    The candidate’s lawyer sent a letter to election officials in Detroit alleging problems with the vote count, WKAR reported, and state and national Republicans, including Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, amplified similar claims.

    Last week, she alleged Republican poll watchers at the city’s vote-counting site were being forced to stand so far back they could not monitor the ballot-tallying activities. (GOP lawsuits making similar claims in Michigan have been dismissed so far, though a third allegation with six signed affidavits was filed Monday.)

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    As the nonprofit news outlet Michigan Advance noted, James’s advisers, including Republican operative Stu Sandler, have also spread conspiracy theories about voter fraud at the Detroit facility.

    “The idea that ballots miraculously showed up at … 3:30am is voodoo,” Sandler wrote in a since-deleted tweet that had been flagged by Twitter, according to the Advance. “The tricks and shenanigans have to stop.”

    While other James supporters have pointed out Peters took about three weeks to concede in his 2002 race for Michigan attorney general, that race was decided by about 5,200 votes, a much thinner margin.

    Next to the well-funded Klacik and the nationally backed James, Webber’s refusal to accept defeat may be the most unlikely of all.

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    Originally from Jamaica, the film producer and frequent Trump rally attendee was running his first race for U.S. political office — though, as the Los Angeles Daily News reported, he had scant fundraising or campaign efforts.

    One campaign video repeated several familiar GOP talking points: that his home state of California had been ruined by “vindictive Democrat politicians” and their “failed leftist policies,” and that his city of Los Angeles was an “American nightmare” rife with violence and homelessness.

    Days after both he and Trump lost their elections, their Twitter feeds remained largely indistinguishable.

    “We will take back this country from the frauds, the cheats and the liars!” Webber wrote Monday. “They will NOT get away with this!”



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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,264
    Profiles in Cowardice.

    All this crap serves to weaken the Republic.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    Just a reminder that repubs have lost all credibility with their blind faith in Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and that Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden and his Administration wont need nor want any of your advice or recommendations. On anything. Y’all can go fuck yourselves and STFU.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 10,862
    The proposed expansion to the FL Stand Your Ground law is fucking dark.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    DewieCox said:
    The proposed expansion to the FL Stand Your Ground law is fucking dark.
    All you’ll have to say is, “they was lootin’!”
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    Looks like someone is having a come to jeebus moment. Well, fuck him and his ilk. They gave rise to and promoted all the shit to get to this Shit show. Whaddya think, should Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden welcome him with open arms or tell him and his ilk to fuck off?


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    I don’t trust them as far as I could throw them and I’d publicly hold them at arms length and privately rip them new assholes. Then I’d work with progressive and socially responsible corporations to write and implement agendas. Sorry, old school, white nationalists corporate‘Murica, you lose.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 1,883
    I don’t trust them as far as I could throw them and I’d publicly hold them at arms length and privately rip them new assholes. Then I’d work with progressive and socially responsible corporations to write and implement agendas. Sorry, old school, white nationalists corporate‘Murica, you lose.
    Do progressive socially responsible corporations exist?  Not companies or businesses, I’m talking specifically of corporations.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    static111 said:
    I don’t trust them as far as I could throw them and I’d publicly hold them at arms length and privately rip them new assholes. Then I’d work with progressive and socially responsible corporations to write and implement agendas. Sorry, old school, white nationalists corporate‘Murica, you lose.
    Do progressive socially responsible corporations exist?  Not companies or businesses, I’m talking specifically of corporations.
    Yes, and more need to be like these.


    https://better.net/philanthropy/get-inspired/20-u-s-companies-that-excel-at-corporate-social-responsibility/

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  • static111static111 Posts: 1,883
    static111 said:
    I don’t trust them as far as I could throw them and I’d publicly hold them at arms length and privately rip them new assholes. Then I’d work with progressive and socially responsible corporations to write and implement agendas. Sorry, old school, white nationalists corporate‘Murica, you lose.
    Do progressive socially responsible corporations exist?  Not companies or businesses, I’m talking specifically of corporations.
    Yes, and more need to be like these.


    https://better.net/philanthropy/get-inspired/20-u-s-companies-that-excel-at-corporate-social-responsibility/

    Thanks I’ll look deeper at these companies.  Disney, Starbucks , and visa being on the list gave me the initial reaction of rolling my eyes, but I will do some diligence looking at those and the other companies on the list.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I don’t trust them as far as I could throw them and I’d publicly hold them at arms length and privately rip them new assholes. Then I’d work with progressive and socially responsible corporations to write and implement agendas. Sorry, old school, white nationalists corporate‘Murica, you lose.
    Do progressive socially responsible corporations exist?  Not companies or businesses, I’m talking specifically of corporations.
    Yes, and more need to be like these.


    https://better.net/philanthropy/get-inspired/20-u-s-companies-that-excel-at-corporate-social-responsibility/

    Thanks I’ll look deeper at these companies.  Disney, Starbucks , and visa being on the list gave me the initial reaction of rolling my eyes, but I will do some diligence looking at those and the other companies on the list.
    Believe it or not but there are companies or corporations that are doing their best to fight climate change, offer their employees healthcare and paid time off for their kids or family care, investing in neglected communities, etc. These are the companies that Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden needs to work with, invite in and help shape policy, because it’s working, they didn’t go under and they’re still profitable. And they’re probably growing, have better retention rates and happier employees. These are the folks you want out front convincing the “working middle class” that it’s possible and not a doomed to fail socialist take over. Even Wal Mart has made changes, not nearly enough but even they see benefits for being a better corporation (I still avoid them at all cost, fuck that family).
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 26,106
    MMMAGA March, the hate fest will be on full display today. Take pictures? Identify? DOX? What do you say? Are they working for you? Would you hire them? Should they or would you “like” to live next door to them? Support and vote for the candidates they rally for? Are you okay with any, some or all of that?
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  • static111static111 Posts: 1,883
    MMMAGA March, the hate fest will be on full display today. Take pictures? Identify? DOX? What do you say? Are they working for you? Would you hire them? Should they or would you “like” to live next door to them? Support and vote for the candidates they rally for? Are you okay with any, some or all of that?
    Just make sure not to put them on a “list” or ask to hold them accountable!
  • Looks like someone is having a come to jeebus moment. Well, fuck him and his ilk. They gave rise to and promoted all the shit to get to this Shit show. Whaddya think, should Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden welcome him with open arms or tell him and his ilk to fuck off?


    I still think he has given 99% to republican candidates in 2020 or whatever. All talk.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 19,287
     Republicans sound alarm on Georgia Senate runoffs as they privately weigh Trump’s influence
    By Robert Costa and Tom Hamburger

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/georgia-senate-runoffs-gop-t/2020/11/16/9d7c0678-2848-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html


    By Robert Costa and Tom Hamburger
    November 16 at 8:16 PM EST
    Republican leaders are increasingly alarmed about the party’s ability to stave off Democratic challengers in Georgia’s two Senate runoff elections — and they privately described President Trump on a recent conference call as a political burden who despite his false claims of victory was the likely loser of the 2020 election.
    Those blunt assessments, which capture a Republican Party in turmoil as Trump refuses to concede to President-elect Joe Biden, were made on a Nov. 10 call with donors hosted by the National Republican Senatorial Committee. It featured Georgia’s embattled GOP incumbents, Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, and Karl Rove, a veteran strategist who is coordinating fundraising for the Jan. 5 runoffs.
    The comments by the senators and Rove were shared with The Washington Post by a person who provided a detailed and precise account of what was said by each speaker on the call. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity since they were not authorized to divulge the contents of the private discussion.
    Most striking was the way the senators nodded toward the likelihood of Biden’s presidency. While Trump keeps insisting that he won the election, making baseless claims of voter fraud and mounting legal challenges, Republicans on the call privately cast those efforts as an understandable but potentially futile protest.
    “What we’re going to have to do is make sure we get all the votes out from the general and get them back out,” Perdue said of core Republican voters. “That’s always a hard thing to do in a presidential year, particularly this year, given that President Trump, it looks like now, may not be able to hold out.”
    Perdue added that “we don’t know that” yet — and said he fully supports Trump and his dispute of the results in several states. But, he said, “we’re assuming that we’re going to be standing out here alone. And that means that we have to get the vote out, no matter what the outcome of that adjudication is on the recount in two states and some lawsuits, and others. Kelly and I can’t wait for that.”
    Perdue noted later that he had confronted an “anti-Trump vote in Georgia” in the first round of voting and said the runoff is about getting “enough conservative Republicans out to vote” in the Atlanta suburbs and elsewhere who might have opposed the president’s reelection.
    “I’m talking about people that may have voted for Biden but now may come back and vote for us because there was an anti-Trump vote in Georgia,” Perdue said. “And we think some of those people, particularly in the suburbs, may come back to us. And I’m hopeful of that.”
    [Fear of losing Senate majority in Georgia runoffs drives GOP embrace of Trump’s unfounded claims of election fraud]
    Perdue’s delicate approach — standing with Trump, but also privately acknowledging that the president’s time in power could be waning and that he carries possible political liabilities — extended to others on the call who tried to balance their loyalty to Trump with their apprehension about what is needed in Georgia to save the GOP Senate majority. It is revealing of the Republican dilemma in the winter of Trump’s presidency, with fear of offending him and his fervent supporters hovering over a cold political reality.
    “In fact, I’m assuming the worst. I’m assuming the worst but hoping for the best. And the worst-case scenario is that we have a Democrat in the White House, that we have Nancy Pelosi still with her hands on that speaker’s gavel, which appears almost a certainty,” Sen. Todd C. Young (R-Ind.), who recently chaired the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said on the call, as he spoke urgently of the need to win in Georgia.
    Those remarks came as Perdue and Loeffler have remained publicly defiant about the 2020 election result in their state. Biden won Georgia by about 14,000 votes — the first time a Democratic presidential candidate has won there since 1992 — and a hand recount is underway. Both senators have called for Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) to resign for failing to be “transparent,” channeling voter anger but not citing anything that he might have done wrong.
    The GOP fretting also comes as Trump flails and as Democrats, with a caucus of 48 senators so far, see one last chance to reclaim the Senate majority by trying to secure a double victory in what used to be a conservative Republican stronghold. If they’re successful, the 50-50 Senate would tilt to the Democrats once Vice President-elect Kamala D. Harris is sworn in next year.
    [Ga. secretary of state says fellow Republicans are pressuring him to find ways to exclude legal ballots]
    The private GOP phone call highlighted the party’s rising angst over the highly unusual dual runoff campaign, which is unfolding under the cloud of the Georgia presidential recount and Trump’s refusal to concede, while at the same time Democrats appear energized and emboldened by Biden’s win in the state.
    Some on the call expressed particular concern about Georgia’s fast-changing electorate, driven by the increasingly liberal metro Atlanta region and the push by 2018 gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams to register more Democratic voters, especially in the state’s communities of color.
    Democrats hope that the candidate challenging Loeffler in the runoff, the Rev. Raphael Warnock — the pastor at Atlanta’s iconic Ebenezer Baptist Church, where the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. once preached — will help energize Black voters.
    Perdue, elected in 2014, faces Democrat Jon Ossoff, a documentary filmmaker running his first statewide race.
    “They changed, dramatically, the face of the electorate in Georgia. Many of these new voters are from California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, and they’re not of the conservative persuasion,” Perdue said on the call.
    Loeffler and Perdue laid bare their strategies for the closing weeks, with an emphasis on making incendiary attacks on the Democrats and rallying the GOP base in Georgia, which is majority White.
    “This is really not about messaging. It’s not about persuasion in my race. It’s more about getting the vote out,” Perdue said. He later said: “We have to remind people of what the Democrats will do. It has nothing to do with Kelly or me.”
    [Trump’s refusal to concede creates tricky messaging issue for Ga. Republicans]
    Loeffler was optimistic that Trump’s voters would come out again and rally behind the GOP, but she said the party can’t “take for granted” that the president’s coalition will reassemble at Election Day levels.
    “We think that Trump voters are going to continue to be very energized, and we don’t think we’ll have a problem with that,” Loeffler said. “But the question is about the Democrat turnout. We don’t know. We can’t take for granted that we’re going to keep everyone motivated.”
    A spokesman for the National Republican Senatorial Committee declined to comment, and Rove was unavailable. A Senate GOP campaign official, who spoke about private discussions on the condition of anonymity, said the urgent tone of the call was unsurprising. “On calls with donors you usually talk about worst-case scenarios,” the official said.
    A spokesman for Loeffler, Stephen Lawson, said the senator is confident about her campaign. Perdue spokesman John Burke said of the conference call, “This isn’t news, there’s nothing new here.”
    “As we have said from the beginning, this runoff is all about turnout. Senator Perdue has been President Trump’s strongest ally in the Senate, and we’re proud to have his support in this race,” Burke added.
    All four runoff campaigns, and their various outside supporters, are seeking to nationalize the contests and focus their messaging on the impact that victories could have for each side, with Democrats trying to achieve a historically high Black turnout normally associated with a presidential race. Republicans are painting the races as critical to securing the GOP majority and shoring up a conservative bulwark against Democrats with Biden’s presidency looming.
    “We’ve got to pile on big time,” Rove said on the call as he urged donors to quickly organize and bundle cash for the runoffs. He also warned them that Democratic billionaire Mike Bloomberg, the former New York mayor, “is going to drop, you know, 20 million dollars on our head.”
    While Bloomberg was a prolific Democratic donor during the 2020 campaign, he has not signaled his plans for Georgia. A Bloomberg adviser declined to comment.
    Rove added: “Don’t kid ourselves. We got a lot of work to do. And even at the end, though, we’re going to be outspent. The question is: Are we going to have sufficient money? Not: Are we going to have more money?”
    Warnock, seeking to become the first elected Black Democratic senator from the Deep South, faces Loeffler in a contest that was long expected to go to a runoff because it is a special election to fill the rest of the term won four years ago by Johnny Isakson (R). Loeffler was appointed to the seat after Isakson resigned for health reasons at the end of last year.
    Rove said Republicans must pay close attention to Abrams and make sure GOP voters will show up in January.
    “We’re going to have a big issue with mail-in ballots that Stacey Abrams has been working for years. Her apparatus is already geared up,” Rove said.
    Warnock faces a bruising negative campaign from Loeffler, who previewed her strategy on the call. Among the lines of attack, she said, would be his past praise of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who had been Barack Obama’s pastor in Chicago; his criticism of police; and a visit in the 1990s by Cuban dictator Fidel Castro to a church where Warnock worked.
    “He really escaped unscathed. . . . And we’re going to show everyone who he is,” Loeffler said.
    PolitiFact, a nonpartisan fact-checking news organization, has concluded that Warnock was “the youth pastor at a New York City church when Castro spoke there in 1995” but “found no evidence that Warnock celebrated or welcomed Castro or that he was involved in arranging his appearance.”
    “Get ready, Georgia, the negative ads are coming. Kelly Loeffler doesn’t want to talk about why she’s for getting rid of health care in the middle of a pandemic. So she’s going to try to scare you with lies about me,” Warnock said in a recent video to try to preempt the barrage of negative ads heading toward him.
    [The Trailer: The double feature in Georgia]
    Few states embody the forces charging the country’s political and social debates the way Georgia does. It was there that Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed Black jogger, was fatally shot by a White former police officer, fueling months of nationwide street protests.
    Georgia was also where the first open supporter of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory, Marjorie Taylor Greene, won a seat in Congress. Greene has made offensive statements at a time when many Black Americans think the GOP has become more hospitable to white supremacists.
    In general, the state’s political geography is a microcosm of the nation’s political landscape. Trump was propelled in Georgia, as he was across the country, by strong support from White and rural voters, while Biden performed strongly among suburban voters and with Black Americans and city dwellers.
    Perdue noted on the call that he and Loeffler are effectively running as a ticket, having “fully integrated our teams” and locked arms on fundraising. That new joint committee, called the Georgia Battleground Fund, was encouraged by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and organized the call. It also enlisted Rove to serve as its finance chair, a move first reported by Politico.
    Paul Kane and David Weigel contributed to this report.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot! (Chris Jericho)Posts: 23,802
    it astounds me the number of GOP folks actually think trump has a snowflake's chance in hell to remain prez. 
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,231
    it astounds me the number of GOP folks actually think trump has a snowflake's chance in hell to remain prez. 
    Of course he does
    As long as they  keep sending thoughts and prayers to god's gift he'll stay where god meant him to be.
  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 4,295
    How can Martha Stewart be a felon insider trader, but not Loeffler? 

    Is this another she can be busted once another new admin is in place?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,231
    Smellyman said:
    How can Martha Stewart be a felon insider trader, but not Loeffler? 

    Is this another she can be busted once another new admin is in place?
    I believe that there is a house/senate rule that allows for what she and others did.

    I could be wrong
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