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HughFreakingDillon

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing to me is that pence thinks he actually has a shot at winning the primary in the "hang mike pence" party.

I agree. I can't see Pence being even a footnote in this. 

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

Hey how is that four months going to be for Steve Bannon?

Only four?

FiveBelow

mrussel1 said:

Hey how is that four months going to be for Steve Bannon?

Very unDufresne like.

HughFreakingDillon

so with our revolving door justice systems for white males, he'll go in in the morning and with good behaviour at lunch he'll be out by 2pm?

josevolution

HughFreakingDillon said:

so with our revolving door justice systems for white males, he'll go in in the morning and with good behaviour at lunch he'll be out by 2pm?

Nope he’s free to roam until his appeal’s happen 

mrussel1

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so with our revolving door justice systems for white males, he'll go in in the morning and with good behaviour at lunch he'll be out by 2pm?

Nope he’s free to roam until his appeal’s happen 

He's already been denied a new trial.  Appeals do not prevent someone from going to jail. 

josevolution

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so with our revolving door justice systems for white males, he'll go in in the morning and with good behaviour at lunch he'll be out by 2pm?

Nope he’s free to roam until his appeal’s happen 

He's already been denied a new trial.  Appeals do not prevent someone from going to jail. 

lol yes for the unprivileged!

mrussel1

josevolution said:

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so with our revolving door justice systems for white males, he'll go in in the morning and with good behaviour at lunch he'll be out by 2pm?

Nope he’s free to roam until his appeal’s happen 

He's already been denied a new trial.  Appeals do not prevent someone from going to jail. 

lol yes for the unprivileged!

Meh.  This is a non-violent misdemeanor, so it would not surprise me if that happened.  And I wouldn't have a problem with that.  Very different than someone that is appealing a murder conviction.  

josevolution

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

so with our revolving door justice systems for white males, he'll go in in the morning and with good behaviour at lunch he'll be out by 2pm?

Nope he’s free to roam until his appeal’s happen 

He's already been denied a new trial.  Appeals do not prevent someone from going to jail. 

lol yes for the unprivileged!

Meh.  This is a non-violent misdemeanor, so it would not surprise me if that happened.  And I wouldn't have a problem with that.  Very different than someone that is appealing a murder conviction.  

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/10/21/steve-bannon-sentenced-to-4-months-in-prison-for-defying-house-jan-6-subpoena/amp/

11/19 that does seem like he’s free to roam! 

gimmesometruth27

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing to me is that pence thinks he actually has a shot at winning the primary in the "hang mike pence" party.

I agree. I can't see Pence being even a footnote in this. 

he has no political future. he is a laughingstock on both ends of the political spectrum.

josevolution

https://twitter.com/aweissmann_/status/1583487238117109760?s=46&t=XygLtWsoF8IASm4nMdM75A

Big mistake to just let him be free Bannon should of just been made to go straight to jail! 

Halifax2TheMax

Where’s all the deficit hawks at, yo? From Letter From An American:

But his main point today was to demonstrate how the Democrats’ program does not, in fact, blow up the nation’s finances the way Republicans have insisted for forty years. Biden focused on the deficit, which is the gap between what the government takes in through taxes and other revenue sources and what it pays out. Republicans insist that social welfare spending racks up government debt; Biden emphasized today that the Democrats’ investment in the nation has not increased the federal deficit. Indeed, the opposite is true: today the administration announced that the deficit this year fell by $1.4 trillion. This was the largest-ever decline in the federal deficit. Last year’s drop was $350 billion. 

The deficit climbed every year of the Trump presidency, including in the years before the pandemic. Trump and the Republicans added $400 billion to the deficit, primarily because of their $2 trillion tax cut for the wealthy and for corporations.

Biden was not simply talking about today’s numbers; he was making a case that government investment in ordinary Americans is better for the nation’s finances than handing more money to the wealthy, which Republicans claim will goose the economy to produce higher tax revenues and thus balance the budget. Biden was pointing out that unlike the Republicans’ supply-side economics, the Democrats’ version of the economy actually works.

The numbers prove his point. According to Politifact, Republican presidents since Ronald Reagan have exploded deficits, while Democrats have brought deficits down. Reagan sent the deficit from $70 billion to $175 billion. George H.W. Bush took it to $300 billion. Bill Clinton—with help from Bush’s willingness to raise taxes—got the deficit to zero. George W. Bush took it back up to $1.2 trillion with unfunded wars. Barack Obama cut that back to $600 billion. And Trump’s tax cuts sent it skyrocketing again, even before pandemic spending sent it higher still. 

Biden’s reduction of the deficit is due in part to the end of some of those pandemic programs, in part to the booming economy which is producing high tax revenues, and in part to higher taxes on the wealthy. He highlighted it today because, as he pointed out, the Republicans are promising further tax cuts that will send the deficit soaring upward again. The pattern is for them to cut taxes for the wealthy and then, when the deficit increases, complain that there is no money for social welfare programs and that Democrats advocating them are in favor of wasteful spending.

OnWis97

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing to me is that pence thinks he actually has a shot at winning the primary in the "hang mike pence" party.

I agree. I can't see Pence being even a footnote in this. 

he has no political future. he is a laughingstock on both ends of the political spectrum.

It's roughly as laughable as people suggesting Liz Cheney might run. When neither side like you, you're not going to get very far. I know that both of them are recognized by some of the center and left as able to do the bare minimum in term of keeping the Republic intact but that doesn't mean they're going to be high on anyone's list for any elected office.

History will look on their responses to the attempted coup well. That's as much good as that's going to do for them politically.

Halifax2TheMax

All you need to know. No solutions, just fear.

Their America Is Vanishing. Like Trump, They Insist They Were Cheated.

The white majority is fading, the economy is changing and there’s a pervasive sense of loss in districts where Republicans fought the outcome of the 2020 election.

By MICHAEL H. KELLER and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Oct. 23, 2022

HughFreakingDillon

OnWis97 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing to me is that pence thinks he actually has a shot at winning the primary in the "hang mike pence" party.

I agree. I can't see Pence being even a footnote in this. 

he has no political future. he is a laughingstock on both ends of the political spectrum.

It's roughly as laughable as people suggesting Liz Cheney might run. When neither side like you, you're not going to get very far. I know that both of them are recognized by some of the center and left as able to do the bare minimum in term of keeping the Republic intact but that doesn't mean they're going to be high on anyone's list for any elected office.

History will look on their responses to the attempted coup well. That's as much good as that's going to do for them politically.

they'd have to be as charismatic as obama to even have a hope in hell. and both of them are basically stuffed shirts. 

Halifax2TheMax

Delusional. Good night ‘Murica, it was nice knowing you. Kind of. And Roger Dodger Stoned makes an appearance. I was wondering whatever became of him?

Nearly every presenter had something to sell — a book (Flynn), a new health program (Gold), immune-boosting vitamins, blankets that promise to ward off radioactive waves, travel-sized vials of anointing oil, a glittery $500 handbag in the shape of a revolver. Roger Stone — Trump’s former adviser, pardoned after his 2019 conviction for witness tampering and lying to Congress — collected money for his legal fees in a trash bag.

Gift article.

https://wapo.st/3TxaJl9

Halifax2TheMax

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” ― Barry M. Goldwater

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing to me is that pence thinks he actually has a shot at winning the primary in the "hang mike pence" party.

I agree. I can't see Pence being even a footnote in this. 

I'm just hoping that he stays in long enough to rip tRump to shreds....that will be his only saving grace and he'll have to play that card once tRump starts insulting him on a daily basis.

Lerxst1992

OnWis97 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing to me is that pence thinks he actually has a shot at winning the primary in the "hang mike pence" party.

I agree. I can't see Pence being even a footnote in this. 

he has no political future. he is a laughingstock on both ends of the political spectrum.

It's roughly as laughable as people suggesting Liz Cheney might run. When neither side like you, you're not going to get very far. I know that both of them are recognized by some of the center and left as able to do the bare minimum in term of keeping the Republic intact but that doesn't mean they're going to be high on anyone's list for any elected office.

History will look on their responses to the attempted coup well. That's as much good as that's going to do for them politically.

Its not laughable, it's smart.

Cheney's objective is not to win outright, its to give conservatives a legitimate candidate to vote for.  

If she were to get even 5% of the conservative vote, that could be enough to influence the outcome in a negative manner for Republicans 

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing to me is that pence thinks he actually has a shot at winning the primary in the "hang mike pence" party.

I agree. I can't see Pence being even a footnote in this. 

I'm just hoping that he stays in long enough to rip tRump to shreds....that will be his only saving grace and he'll have to play that card once tRump starts insulting him on a daily basis.

he doesn't have that killer instinct I don't think.