RIP Ruth Bader Ginsburg

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,014
    edited September 2020
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Fucking Romney caved....what a douche
    I read that he supports having a vote, not that he would vote yes. Maybe it doesn't matter, but to me that could mean he thinks each senator should be on record for what they feel is the right step to take. If they vote to proceed, I think we know what is going to happen when democrats gain the majority. You reap what you sow.

    Romney is a solid conservative from a solidly red state. If Dems think that’s where their wishes should be, they are lost. They have 50 votes and are even willing to bring in Pence to break a tie if needed. That would be another absurd abuse of constitutional power. The VP decides on the Supreme Court where Congress is supposed to be a check on executive power. 

    But the constitution does not expressly prohibit that, so the Rs do it.

    Until the Dems get more aggressive with politics the republicans will run the govt with the  judiciary.
    Given the circumstances of 2016, I do think there should not be anyone appointed until after the election. But how is Pence being the tie breaker in the senate an abuse of constitutional power? That's exactly what is supposed to happen in a tie, so the VP being a tie breaker isn't abuse, that is really the one rule being followed here.
    agreed. if it's a detailed provision in the constitution, like it is here, it's not an abuse. it's only an abuse because democrats don't like it. well, now you know next time, you should use it if necessary. 
    But I thought this VP rule was created after McConnell blew up the vote on Gorsuch and went to majority instead of 60 votes for a justice? In the past a VP wasn't involved with the SCOTUS pick because there was no need for a tie break. It's basically cheating. Of course the current VP is going to approve his president's pick. It's just semantics.
    I learned in 8th grade VP is always the tie breaker vote in senate. I don’t think the rules would be different for a scotus vote. If senate is tied, VP votes. That’s my understanding.
    The majority rule may be newer, but the VP being a tie breaker isn’t.
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  • cutz
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,981
    edited September 2020
    cutz said:

    i stated this earlier. why bother running for prez when he knows he's the most powerful man in america today?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,951
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cutz said:

    i stated this earlier. why bother running for prez when he knows he's the most powerful man in america today?
    That is a really dumb tweet.  His party...of which make up over 50 of the senate members, choose him to lead the party in the senate.  It has nothing to do with the number of votes he got in Kentucky.  I'm kinda tired of the dumb shit arguments.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,014
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cutz said:

    i stated this earlier. why bother running for prez when he knows he's the most powerful man in america today?
    That is a really dumb tweet.  His party...of which make up over 50 of the senate members, choose him to lead the party in the senate.  It has nothing to do with the number of votes he got in Kentucky.  I'm kinda tired of the dumb shit arguments.
    No one here complained about the rules when Harry Reid was in charge of the senate majority for basically the same reason. He got rid of the filibuster when the dems had control of the senate, with the exception of the scotus. Did they really think when the republicans had control again they wouldn't do the same thing and include the scotus this time? I wish politics wasn't dirty, but it is. I think its dirty they didn't vote in 2016 and are pushing one through now. But if the shoe was on the other foot the dems would probably be doing it to. Used car salesmen and politicians are a lot alike. 
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court-memorial/h_f251e2a047e68dfa9f425f0ed6ef10bf
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,620
    stuckinline said:
    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court-memorial/h_f251e2a047e68dfa9f425f0ed6ef10bf
    I watched this.
    It was moving and sad.
    But what an amazing person she was.
    And what a truly great American hero she was.
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    Bentleyspop said:
    stuckinline said:
    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court-memorial/h_f251e2a047e68dfa9f425f0ed6ef10bf
    I watched this.
    It was moving and sad.
    But what an amazing person she was.
    And what a truly great American hero she was.
    I was able to watch a portion of this, and yes it was very moving. 
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    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,620
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