PJ 20 Gray Vinyl

Almost 30 years long PJ fan here but new to vinyl. Is PJ20 soundtrack that is on gray vinyl I see posted around the internet an official release or a bootleg/unofficial release?
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  • danlee1095danlee1095 Posts: 1,204
    It's not official but I bought a copy online from a record store in CA and it sounds great!
    9/8/98 (NJ), 9/10/98 (NY), 8/23/00 (NY), 8/24/00 (NY), 8/25/00 (NY), 4/30/03 (NY), 7/8/03 (NY), 7/9/03 (NY), 5/12/06 (NY), 6/1/06 (NJ), 6/3/06 (NJ), 8/5/07 (IL), 6/22/08 (DC), 6/24/08 (NY), 6/25/08 (NY), 7/1/08 (NY), 10/4/09 (TX ), 10/30/09 (PA), 5/20/10 (NY), 5/21/10 (NY), 9/3/11 (WI), 9/4/11 (WI), 7/19/13 (IL), 10/18/13 (NY), 10/19/13 (NY), 10/3/14 (MO), 9/23/15 (NY), 9/26/15 (NY), 5/1/16 (NY), 5/2/16 (NY), 8/5/16 (MA), 8/22/16 (IL), 4/7/17 (NY), 6/18/18 (UK), 8/20/18 (IL), 9/2/18 (MA), 9/4/18 (MA), 9/18/21 (NJ), 9/26/21 (CA), 10/1/21 (CA), 10/2/21 (CA), 9/10/22 (NY), 9/11/22 (NY), 9/14/22 (NJ), 9/16/22 (TN), 9/22/22 (CO), 8/31/23 (MN), 9/2/23 (MN), 9/5/23 (IL), 9/7/23 (IL), 5/16/24 (NV), 5/18/24 (NV), 5/28/24 (WA), 5/30/24 (WA), 8/29/24 (IL), 8/31/24 (IL), 9/3/24 (NY), 9/4/24 (NY), 9/7/24 (PA), 9/12/24 (MD), 9/15/24 (MA), 9/17/24 (MA)
  • pearljim10pearljim10 AZ Posts: 404
    In my opinion it’s a bootleg. 

    Discogs doesn’t have it listed yet but I’m pretty sure it’s an unofficial release. 

    Has anyone bought one? I was thinking of getting one and using it as a player instead of my official release but not sure if it’s a good recording. 
    The plural of VINYL is VINYL. slh

    1996 - Randalls Island 9/28 9/29, Buffalo 10/1
    1998 - Camden 8/28 8/29, East Rutherford 9/8, MSG 9/10, Hartford 9/13
    2000 - Letterman 4/12, Jones Beach 8/23 8/24 8/25, Saratoga Springs 8/27
    2003 - Long Island 4/30, Phoenix 6/7, MSG 7/8 7/9
    2006 - San Diego 7/7
    2009 - Philly IV 10/31
    2010 - MSG 5/20 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 Movie 9/23
    2012 - EV Phoenix 4/13
    2013 - Phoenix 11/19
    2016 - Telluride 7/10
    2018 - Boston/Fenway 9/4
    2019 - EV Tempe Innings Festival 3/3
  • Adi TAdi T New York City Posts: 161
    I have one on the way for the same reason, don’t want to use my OP

    heard from multiple sources the sound is good
    2003: Camden 7/6 | MSG 7/8 | MSG 7/9
    2006: East Rutherford 6/1 | East Rutherford 6/3
    2008: MSG 6/24 | MSG 6/25 | EV Solo Newark 8/7
    2010: MSG 5/20 | MSG 5/21
    2011: PJ20 Alpine Valley 9/3 | PJ20 Alpine Valley 9/4
    2012: EV Solo Orlando 11/27
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18 | Brooklyn 10/19
    2015: Central Park 9/26 | Mexico City 11/28
    2016: Fort Lauderdale 4/8 | Miami 4/9 | New Orleans 4/23 | Philadelphia 4/27 | MSG 5/1 | MSG 5/2
  • Patrick_Sea3Patrick_Sea3 West Seattle Posts: 909
    I have both original and unofficial, the unofficial sounds just as good.
  • pearljim10pearljim10 AZ Posts: 404
    Good to hear that the sound quality is good. 

    How much did you pay for the gray version?
    The plural of VINYL is VINYL. slh

    1996 - Randalls Island 9/28 9/29, Buffalo 10/1
    1998 - Camden 8/28 8/29, East Rutherford 9/8, MSG 9/10, Hartford 9/13
    2000 - Letterman 4/12, Jones Beach 8/23 8/24 8/25, Saratoga Springs 8/27
    2003 - Long Island 4/30, Phoenix 6/7, MSG 7/8 7/9
    2006 - San Diego 7/7
    2009 - Philly IV 10/31
    2010 - MSG 5/20 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 Movie 9/23
    2012 - EV Phoenix 4/13
    2013 - Phoenix 11/19
    2016 - Telluride 7/10
    2018 - Boston/Fenway 9/4
    2019 - EV Tempe Innings Festival 3/3
  • Adi TAdi T New York City Posts: 161
    Less than 60 shipped 
    2003: Camden 7/6 | MSG 7/8 | MSG 7/9
    2006: East Rutherford 6/1 | East Rutherford 6/3
    2008: MSG 6/24 | MSG 6/25 | EV Solo Newark 8/7
    2010: MSG 5/20 | MSG 5/21
    2011: PJ20 Alpine Valley 9/3 | PJ20 Alpine Valley 9/4
    2012: EV Solo Orlando 11/27
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18 | Brooklyn 10/19
    2015: Central Park 9/26 | Mexico City 11/28
    2016: Fort Lauderdale 4/8 | Miami 4/9 | New Orleans 4/23 | Philadelphia 4/27 | MSG 5/1 | MSG 5/2
  • danlee1095danlee1095 Posts: 1,204
    Good to hear that the sound quality is good. 

    How much did you pay for the gray version?
    https://rollinrecs.com/pearl-jam-twenty/
    9/8/98 (NJ), 9/10/98 (NY), 8/23/00 (NY), 8/24/00 (NY), 8/25/00 (NY), 4/30/03 (NY), 7/8/03 (NY), 7/9/03 (NY), 5/12/06 (NY), 6/1/06 (NJ), 6/3/06 (NJ), 8/5/07 (IL), 6/22/08 (DC), 6/24/08 (NY), 6/25/08 (NY), 7/1/08 (NY), 10/4/09 (TX ), 10/30/09 (PA), 5/20/10 (NY), 5/21/10 (NY), 9/3/11 (WI), 9/4/11 (WI), 7/19/13 (IL), 10/18/13 (NY), 10/19/13 (NY), 10/3/14 (MO), 9/23/15 (NY), 9/26/15 (NY), 5/1/16 (NY), 5/2/16 (NY), 8/5/16 (MA), 8/22/16 (IL), 4/7/17 (NY), 6/18/18 (UK), 8/20/18 (IL), 9/2/18 (MA), 9/4/18 (MA), 9/18/21 (NJ), 9/26/21 (CA), 10/1/21 (CA), 10/2/21 (CA), 9/10/22 (NY), 9/11/22 (NY), 9/14/22 (NJ), 9/16/22 (TN), 9/22/22 (CO), 8/31/23 (MN), 9/2/23 (MN), 9/5/23 (IL), 9/7/23 (IL), 5/16/24 (NV), 5/18/24 (NV), 5/28/24 (WA), 5/30/24 (WA), 8/29/24 (IL), 8/31/24 (IL), 9/3/24 (NY), 9/4/24 (NY), 9/7/24 (PA), 9/12/24 (MD), 9/15/24 (MA), 9/17/24 (MA)
  • elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,129
    why would anyone want to buy it on bootleg?
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    why would anyone want to buy it on bootleg?
    Because the music on it is the same, and now it's been confirmed that the sound quality is good.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • dankind said:
    why would anyone want to buy it on bootleg?
    Because the music on it is the same, and now it's been confirmed that the sound quality is good.
    It's a damn shame that the boot sounds just as good as the OG...
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    dankind said:
    why would anyone want to buy it on bootleg?
    Because the music on it is the same, and now it's been confirmed that the sound quality is good.
    It's a damn shame that the boot sounds just as good as the OG...
    Well, that's Pearl Jam for you.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    dankind said:
    why would anyone want to buy it on bootleg?
    Because the music on it is the same, and now it's been confirmed that the sound quality is good.
    It's a damn shame that the boot sounds just as good as the OG...
    Yeah that's the truth.  If you get a cd rip on vinyl and it sounds like the OG, that is not a good thing.  
  • kramer73kramer73 Posts: 2,614
    why would anyone want to buy it on bootleg?
    nobody wants to pay the current prices for an original.
  • pearljim10pearljim10 AZ Posts: 404
    Adi T said:
    Less than 60 shipped 
    Thank you. Good to know
    The plural of VINYL is VINYL. slh

    1996 - Randalls Island 9/28 9/29, Buffalo 10/1
    1998 - Camden 8/28 8/29, East Rutherford 9/8, MSG 9/10, Hartford 9/13
    2000 - Letterman 4/12, Jones Beach 8/23 8/24 8/25, Saratoga Springs 8/27
    2003 - Long Island 4/30, Phoenix 6/7, MSG 7/8 7/9
    2006 - San Diego 7/7
    2009 - Philly IV 10/31
    2010 - MSG 5/20 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 Movie 9/23
    2012 - EV Phoenix 4/13
    2013 - Phoenix 11/19
    2016 - Telluride 7/10
    2018 - Boston/Fenway 9/4
    2019 - EV Tempe Innings Festival 3/3
  • pearljim10pearljim10 AZ Posts: 404
    Good to hear that the sound quality is good. 

    How much did you pay for the gray version?
    https://rollinrecs.com/pearl-jam-twenty/
    Thank you for the link
    The plural of VINYL is VINYL. slh

    1996 - Randalls Island 9/28 9/29, Buffalo 10/1
    1998 - Camden 8/28 8/29, East Rutherford 9/8, MSG 9/10, Hartford 9/13
    2000 - Letterman 4/12, Jones Beach 8/23 8/24 8/25, Saratoga Springs 8/27
    2003 - Long Island 4/30, Phoenix 6/7, MSG 7/8 7/9
    2006 - San Diego 7/7
    2009 - Philly IV 10/31
    2010 - MSG 5/20 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 Movie 9/23
    2012 - EV Phoenix 4/13
    2013 - Phoenix 11/19
    2016 - Telluride 7/10
    2018 - Boston/Fenway 9/4
    2019 - EV Tempe Innings Festival 3/3
  • danlee1095danlee1095 Posts: 1,204
    edited September 2020
    Good to hear that the sound quality is good. 

    How much did you pay for the gray version?
    https://rollinrecs.com/pearl-jam-twenty/
    Thank you for the link
    Of course @pearljim10!   PS - I see we are both cursed by "Made N1 MSG 98 and skipped N2"...  Still haunts me.
    Post edited by danlee1095 on
    9/8/98 (NJ), 9/10/98 (NY), 8/23/00 (NY), 8/24/00 (NY), 8/25/00 (NY), 4/30/03 (NY), 7/8/03 (NY), 7/9/03 (NY), 5/12/06 (NY), 6/1/06 (NJ), 6/3/06 (NJ), 8/5/07 (IL), 6/22/08 (DC), 6/24/08 (NY), 6/25/08 (NY), 7/1/08 (NY), 10/4/09 (TX ), 10/30/09 (PA), 5/20/10 (NY), 5/21/10 (NY), 9/3/11 (WI), 9/4/11 (WI), 7/19/13 (IL), 10/18/13 (NY), 10/19/13 (NY), 10/3/14 (MO), 9/23/15 (NY), 9/26/15 (NY), 5/1/16 (NY), 5/2/16 (NY), 8/5/16 (MA), 8/22/16 (IL), 4/7/17 (NY), 6/18/18 (UK), 8/20/18 (IL), 9/2/18 (MA), 9/4/18 (MA), 9/18/21 (NJ), 9/26/21 (CA), 10/1/21 (CA), 10/2/21 (CA), 9/10/22 (NY), 9/11/22 (NY), 9/14/22 (NJ), 9/16/22 (TN), 9/22/22 (CO), 8/31/23 (MN), 9/2/23 (MN), 9/5/23 (IL), 9/7/23 (IL), 5/16/24 (NV), 5/18/24 (NV), 5/28/24 (WA), 5/30/24 (WA), 8/29/24 (IL), 8/31/24 (IL), 9/3/24 (NY), 9/4/24 (NY), 9/7/24 (PA), 9/12/24 (MD), 9/15/24 (MA), 9/17/24 (MA)
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,696
    edited September 2020
    Can confirm it sounds almost exactly like standard black.  Too close to even make a judgement call of slightly better or slightly worse. 

    Buy this one rather than paying $$$ on ebay.  
    Post edited by cp3iverson on
  • exploderballexploderball Posts: 172
    edited September 2020
    I just bought this version from the link posted above. I might have received a dud. The entire album plays waaay slow. All the music is off-pitch and Eddie Vedder sounds like he's on valium. I just wanted a "cheap" copy to spin, but mine is unplayable. I just contacted customer service, so we'll see what they say...

    UPDATE: I tested some other records, and something is wrong with my turntable. Might be the motor, but all my LPs are playing slow for some reason. Doh! My PJ20 gray vinyl is probably perfectly fine.
    Post edited by exploderball on
  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    edited September 2020
    Play it at 45rpm, maybe that’ll work.
    Post edited by HollisBrown on
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  • Play it at 45rpm, maybe that’ll work.
    I tried that right away, but it just made 'em sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks. At least my kids might like it better that way. Haha.
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,696
    I just bought this version from the link posted above. I might have received a dud. The entire album plays waaay slow. All the music is off-pitch and Eddie Vedder sounds like he's on valium. I just wanted a "cheap" copy to spin, but mine is unplayable. I just contacted customer service, so we'll see what they say...
    played mine again.  Sounds perfect.  I bought mine from them a few weeks ago. 
  • I just bought this version from the link posted above. I might have received a dud. The entire album plays waaay slow. All the music is off-pitch and Eddie Vedder sounds like he's on valium. I just wanted a "cheap" copy to spin, but mine is unplayable. I just contacted customer service, so we'll see what they say...
    played mine again.  Sounds perfect.  I bought mine from them a few weeks ago. 
    I tested some other records, and something is wrong with my turntable. Might be the motor, but all my LPs are playing slow for some reason. Doh! My PJ20 gray vinyl is probably perfectly fine.
  • Belt or direct drive?
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  • pearljim10pearljim10 AZ Posts: 404
    I just bought this version from the link posted above. I might have received a dud. The entire album plays waaay slow. All the music is off-pitch and Eddie Vedder sounds like he's on valium. I just wanted a "cheap" copy to spin, but mine is unplayable. I just contacted customer service, so we'll see what they say...
    played mine again.  Sounds perfect.  I bought mine from them a few weeks ago. 
    I tested some other records, and something is wrong with my turntable. Might be the motor, but all my LPs are playing slow for some reason. Doh! My PJ20 gray vinyl is probably perfectly fine.
    Def check the belt. It’s basically a rubber band that may have stretched out causing the turntable to spin at the wrong speed. 
    The plural of VINYL is VINYL. slh

    1996 - Randalls Island 9/28 9/29, Buffalo 10/1
    1998 - Camden 8/28 8/29, East Rutherford 9/8, MSG 9/10, Hartford 9/13
    2000 - Letterman 4/12, Jones Beach 8/23 8/24 8/25, Saratoga Springs 8/27
    2003 - Long Island 4/30, Phoenix 6/7, MSG 7/8 7/9
    2006 - San Diego 7/7
    2009 - Philly IV 10/31
    2010 - MSG 5/20 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 Movie 9/23
    2012 - EV Phoenix 4/13
    2013 - Phoenix 11/19
    2016 - Telluride 7/10
    2018 - Boston/Fenway 9/4
    2019 - EV Tempe Innings Festival 3/3
  • Honestly, I've been using a crappy 6-in-1 that my brother got me a few years back. I'm done with it. Gonna upgrade to an Audio-Technica AT-LP120 at the recommendation of my local record store.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Honestly, I've been using a crappy 6-in-1 that my brother got me a few years back. I'm done with it. Gonna upgrade to an Audio-Technica AT-LP120 at the recommendation of my local record store.
    If you can swing an additional 100-250 bucks, you'd be much better off with a U-turn, Pro-ject debut carbon, or Rega Planar 1.  These are much better entry TT's, IMO, with substantially better carts out of the box.  I started with a LP120 and the difference between that and a Debut were night and day. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    Honestly, I've been using a crappy 6-in-1 that my brother got me a few years back. I'm done with it. Gonna upgrade to an Audio-Technica AT-LP120 at the recommendation of my local record store.
    If you can swing an additional 100-250 bucks, you'd be much better off with a U-turn, Pro-ject debut carbon, or Rega Planar 1.  These are much better entry TT's, IMO, with substantially better carts out of the box.  I started with a LP120 and the difference between that and a Debut were night and day. 
    Thanks, I appreciate the recommendations. I'll check those out too. I probably need to decide how far down the vinyl rabbit hole I really want to go. I feel like I'm peeking over the edge right now. Haha.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    mrussel1 said:
    Honestly, I've been using a crappy 6-in-1 that my brother got me a few years back. I'm done with it. Gonna upgrade to an Audio-Technica AT-LP120 at the recommendation of my local record store.
    If you can swing an additional 100-250 bucks, you'd be much better off with a U-turn, Pro-ject debut carbon, or Rega Planar 1.  These are much better entry TT's, IMO, with substantially better carts out of the box.  I started with a LP120 and the difference between that and a Debut were night and day. 
    Thanks, I appreciate the recommendations. I'll check those out too. I probably need to decide how far down the vinyl rabbit hole I really want to go. I feel like I'm peeking over the edge right now. Haha.
    Yeah that's exactly it.  Although if you're not hearing a big upgrade in sound quality, no reason to even enter.  
  • epieepie Posts: 296
    edited November 2020
    I purchased the gray vinyl a few weeks ago and agree it sounds great.  You don't get any of the nice extras that appear in the official version but the music itself sounds good.  I see there is now a Benaroya Hall unofficial vinyl floating out there as well that is looking pretty good at this point as it seems we will never get a reissue.
    Post edited by epie on
    1996 - Columbia, MD & Augusta, ME
    2013 - Worcester, MA (Lightning Bolt Release)
    2016 - Fenway Park I and II
    2017 - HSCM (EV) Boston, MA
    2018 - Seattle I, Fenway Park I and II
    2021 - Ohana Festival (EV/EV/PJ)
    2022 - EV (Beacon Theater II & Newark)
    2023 - Austin, TX I & II
  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    edited November 2020
    I just don't get supporting bootleg companies, I am actually surprised the 10C allows any of this. But I guess a ton of people buy fake merchandise all the time. I'm actually surprised you don't see a bunch of these $$$ posters being reproduced, for like $50 each. A company could make a ton repopping the 1998 posters.
    Post edited by MedozK on
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