THE BATMAN (2021. Robert Pattison. Zoë Kravitz Dir: Matt Reeves)

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  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    dankind said:
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    tempo_n_groove said:
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    https://youtu.be/ewDSeyWve8M
    Why does he look like the Winter Soldier though?! Or the Crow?!
    Dark and brooding?  It's the Frank Miller approach to Batman I guess?
    More the hair and eye makeup. I wouldn’t call Robert Pattinson brooding. Looks more like a caricature ;) 
    Reminded me of Gaiman's or rather Sam Keith's Sandman...
    Sandman - Issue 2 - Imperfect Hosts
    Never seen that one 
    Snadman Comic by Neil Gaman is amazing.  Give it a read.
    He would be a lot older if this were Frank Miller's Batman/Dark Knight.

    I agree with S_C that Tim Burton made the best Batman films and that Michael Keaton was the best Batman. They struck the appropriate balance between fun and dark that has been the appeal of Batman and his Rogue's Gallery since the characters humble pulp beginnings.

    The only Christopher Nolan film I enjoyed was the last one. Too much (sub)mental masturbation going on in them for my taste. Of course, that goes for every Nolan flick, in my opinion. Also, I'll never see the appeal of Christian Bale as an actor. I just don't see an ounce of talent in any of his performances. I will say that one thing I did appreciate about Nolan's cerebral approach was that it got women to watch comic book films. This is purely based on anecdotal evidence--that being the amount of women in the lines and cinemas sans male companions when I went to screenings.

    And 1966 Batman was too much on the fun side, which, while it made for great camp, failed to strike the appropriate fun/darkness balance of the source material.  

    The trailer for the new one just looks like they're doubling down on the darkness (a la Joker). The trailer was devoid of a single wisecrack, I think. Doesn't bode well for me.
    Weird, I completely disagree on Nolan‘s series and Christian Bale. He’s a brilliant actor in my eyes and I loved the first two films a lot. The third was still good but had a weird abrupt ending. The very end was charming though 
    My favorite Batman on any screen was Batman: The Animated Series, which spawned the often overlooked but always awesome film Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. And, of course, Mark Hamill's Joker.
    That’s before my time I think.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,029
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    https://youtu.be/ewDSeyWve8M
    Why does he look like the Winter Soldier though?! Or the Crow?!
    Dark and brooding?  It's the Frank Miller approach to Batman I guess?
    More the hair and eye makeup. I wouldn’t call Robert Pattinson brooding. Looks more like a caricature ;) 
    Reminded me of Gaiman's or rather Sam Keith's Sandman...
    Sandman - Issue 2 - Imperfect Hosts
    Never seen that one 
    Snadman Comic by Neil Gaman is amazing.  Give it a read.
    He would be a lot older if this were Frank Miller's Batman/Dark Knight.


    This story is supposedly set during his 2nd year being Batman, so not an origin story, starting just after that, likely with some origin type flashbacks I imagine.

    While I appreciate some humor, I like the darker rake on Batman by far. The Bale movies were the best, and the Joel Schumacher "films" should be burned.
    The Burton/Keaton movies were good, but Keaton is way too old to play Batman in the traditional lead, could be Bruce Wayne in a Batman Beyond type of movie, but that's not what the public would want. Burton meanwhile has turned into a complete hack since he made those films and I shudder to think what ridiculous roles he'd cast Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter in were he to helm a new Batman movie.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,860
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    https://youtu.be/ewDSeyWve8M
    Why does he look like the Winter Soldier though?! Or the Crow?!
    Dark and brooding?  It's the Frank Miller approach to Batman I guess?
    More the hair and eye makeup. I wouldn’t call Robert Pattinson brooding. Looks more like a caricature ;) 
    Reminded me of Gaiman's or rather Sam Keith's Sandman...
    Sandman - Issue 2 - Imperfect Hosts
    Never seen that one 
    Snadman Comic by Neil Gaman is amazing.  Give it a read.
    He would be a lot older if this were Frank Miller's Batman/Dark Knight.

    I agree that Tim Burton made the best Batman films and that Michael Keaton was the best Batman. They struck the appropriate balance between fun and dark that has been the appeal of Batman and his Rogue's Gallery since the beginning.

    The only Christopher Nolan film I enjoyed was the last one. Too much mental masturbation going on in them for my taste. Of course, that goes for every Nolan flick, in my opinion. Also, I'll never see the appeal of Christian Bale as an actor. I just don't see an ounce of talent in any of his performances. 

    And 1966 Batman was too much on the fun side, which, while it made for great camp, failed to strike the appropriate balance of the source material.  

    The trailer for the new one just looks like they're doubling down on the darkness (a la Joker). The trailer was devoid of a single wisecrack, I think. Doesn't bode well for me.
    Frank Miller's take on Batman transformed to every aspect of him now.  Just like Spiderman is drawn in the way that McFarlane did all those years ago.

    Batman is dark and that is how he should be or how I like him to be.  The whole Christian Bale Batman series was by far my favorite and Ledgers Joker was just icing on the cake.
    Mark Hamill's Joker is the best Joker.
    I've heard this from you before.  I still haven't watched the animated series in depth.

    I have also heard that the animated Star Wars is fantastic too.

    One day.
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 3,033
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    https://youtu.be/ewDSeyWve8M
    Why does he look like the Winter Soldier though?! Or the Crow?!
    Dark and brooding?  It's the Frank Miller approach to Batman I guess?
    More the hair and eye makeup. I wouldn’t call Robert Pattinson brooding. Looks more like a caricature ;) 
    Reminded me of Gaiman's or rather Sam Keith's Sandman...
    Sandman - Issue 2 - Imperfect Hosts
    Never seen that one 
    Snadman Comic by Neil Gaman is amazing.  Give it a read.
    He would be a lot older if this were Frank Miller's Batman/Dark Knight.

    I agree that Tim Burton made the best Batman films and that Michael Keaton was the best Batman. They struck the appropriate balance between fun and dark that has been the appeal of Batman and his Rogue's Gallery since the beginning.

    The only Christopher Nolan film I enjoyed was the last one. Too much mental masturbation going on in them for my taste. Of course, that goes for every Nolan flick, in my opinion. Also, I'll never see the appeal of Christian Bale as an actor. I just don't see an ounce of talent in any of his performances. 

    And 1966 Batman was too much on the fun side, which, while it made for great camp, failed to strike the appropriate balance of the source material.  

    The trailer for the new one just looks like they're doubling down on the darkness (a la Joker). The trailer was devoid of a single wisecrack, I think. Doesn't bode well for me.
    Frank Miller's take on Batman transformed to every aspect of him now.  Just like Spiderman is drawn in the way that McFarlane did all those years ago.

    Batman is dark and that is how he should be or how I like him to be.  The whole Christian Bale Batman series was by far my favorite and Ledgers Joker was just icing on the cake.
    Mark Hamill's Joker is the best Joker.
    I've heard this from you before.  I still haven't watched the animated series in depth.

    I have also heard that the animated Star Wars is fantastic too.

    One day.
    I agree about Hamill’s Joker and the animated series, definitely check it out. When I’ve bought some of the animated movies they usually include some episodes of the series and it still looks good today (even with the black bars on the side of the screen, lol).

    I’ve only watched the Clone Wars series and it had more of the Star Wars feel than the prequel and sequel series of movies. Highly recommended!

    Back to the best “super” hero ever, The Batman, lol!
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    If you've ever played Arkham Asylum, you've also heard Mark Hamill's Joker. 

    Also, it's a kick-ass game!
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    dankind said:
    If you've ever played Arkham Asylum, you've also heard Mark Hamill's Joker. 

    Also, it's a kick-ass game!
    Arkum Asylum the comic was my introduction to a darker and more sinister Joker, much like Killing Joke.  But Arkum Asylum and the way it was drawn was just amazing to me.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I like a darker Batman.  No more Burton/Keaton.

    Who is the villain supposed to be, a modern day Riddler?  The notes and riddles would make me guess that.
    Do you mean more realistic? Those Burton movies were really dark for their time...
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,029
    Robert Pattinson caught the Rona, production halted.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    In what way wasn't Keaton a dark Batman?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,629
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34gHaRiBIU

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  • The Juggler
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    eeriepadave said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34gHaRiBIU

    Oh my goodness. Fuck you Omicron, your Juggler's triumphant return to theaters will be 3/4/22.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Trailer with higher quality:

    The Batman - The Bat and The Cat Trailer on Vimeo
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Has anyone seen it yet? I really liked it, though I disagree with the people saying it was better than Dark Knight
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,189
    edited March 2022
    Saw it Friday Night in IMAX...Thought it was very good. These films themes/characters have been fleshed out over & over, all about the execution, which I thought was done well & the sound & cinematography were very good, especially since its mainly dark. 

    I hope they go with a different villan(s) than the usual go to's for the sequel (s)




  • The Juggler
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    Based on the ending, it looks like it's another new Joker for the next one

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