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JR86440JR86440 Posts: 750
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I don’t see how any tour happens in 2021. Fauci today said a successful vaccine will only help 50/60% of those that receive!!!. That is the goal. What if it’s 30%? What if it’s less? What if vaccine doesn’t work? We wait indefinitely? Even if they hit goal, that’s still a lot of sick people. Unfortunately I think this is something we are going to have to live with for the next decade but we can’t keep everything closed. Not for the next 10 years. Sooner or later we will come to the realization that we need to move on. Get our health system in place. Support those at risk. Try to get as back to normal as possible. Concerts, sports, most importantly schools. Unfortunately I don’t trust anybody in authority, Republicans or Democrats, to do the right thing.  PJ 2022?? I hope
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  • wbutler29wbutler29 Posts: 957
    JR86440 said:
    I don’t see how any tour happens in 2021. Fauci today said a successful vaccine will only help 50/60% of those that receive!!!. That is the goal. What if it’s 30%? What if it’s less? What if vaccine doesn’t work? We wait indefinitely? Even if they hit goal, that’s still a lot of sick people. Unfortunately I think this is something we are going to have to live with for the next decade but we can’t keep everything closed. Not for the next 10 years. Sooner or later we will come to the realization that we need to move on. Get our health system in place. Support those at risk. Try to get as back to normal as possible. Concerts, sports, most importantly schools. Unfortunately I don’t trust anybody in authority, Republicans or Democrats, to do the right thing.  PJ 2022?? I hope

    Happy Friday Debbie Downer.  Appreciate your thoughts and opinions, but optimism is free, so I'm buying.  Here's to PJ in Europe next summer and back in the states in the fall.
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,950
    I know, chill out Debbie downer.
  • jhager79jhager79 Kitchener Ontario Posts: 255
    Grab your face mask, hand sanitizer and lysol wipes and I'll see you at Wrigley in '21.
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  • Long RedLong Red NY Posts: 185
    The real question is, will we get a new album before the next tour? .... that's a joke....mostly. p.s. I still love Gigaton. 
  • CP218430CP218430 Posts: 1,943
    All that matters is we will see them again!
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,390
    60% is the target for a vaccine to establish herd immunity, with 70%+ being ideal. So if the vaccine immunizes between 50 and 60% as Fauci suggested, combined with those who already have antibodies we should be on our way.
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,514
    Life can’t stop forever 
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,415
    Then we’ll be ready for 2022.   
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  • ryph raphryph raph Posts: 887
    Has anyone spoke to the band about playing in front of large crowds if there is only a 50% to 60% of a positive vaccination rate ?
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,957
    ryph raph said:
    Has anyone spoke to the band about playing in front of large crowds if there is only a 50% to 60% of a positive vaccination rate ?
    I have, they're cool with it.
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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Kinda sad looking in the songs section and seeing all those new songs with nothing beside times played
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,319
    drakeheuer14 said:
    Life can’t stop forever 
    No it can’t. Put your face diapers on and let’s go see PJ live 
  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,437
    Fauci hasn't been right about 1 thing since March so take it with a grain of salt. He is big pharma incarnate. 
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,415
    jimjam1982 said:
    Fauci hasn't been right about 1 thing since March so take it with a grain of salt. He is big pharma incarnate. 
    Because recommending people wear masks and stay 6 feet apart makes him a “big pharma incarnate.”   Lol. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,597
    Damn some people are fools.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,092
    jimjam1982 said:
    Fauci hasn't been right about 1 thing since March so take it with a grain of salt. He is big pharma incarnate. 
    No one hasn’t been more wrong than your buddy Trump.   
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,943
    If you think people are bitching now, just wait until Europe gets a tour and the states don’t because the US has handled this pandemic like a 3rd world country. 
  • erebuserebus Posts: 570
    ^
    Canadian fans would welcome a cross Canada tour
    the government....????
    they wouldn’t let the Blue Jays play
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  • D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,927
    edited August 2020
    erebus said:
    ^
    Canadian fans would welcome a cross Canada tour
    the government....????
    they wouldn’t let the Blue Jays play
    The government wouldn’t welcome the Blue Jay due to the constant  border travel.   If Pearl Jam came north , isolated for 2 weeks and did a Canadian tour I believe it would work.  Ontario has a population of 12 million people and our daily virus numbers are now under 100.  
      We have been in stage 3 for over 3 weeks and mandatory face covering ( I hate wearing one but they work) for over 4 weeks.

    I forgot my original point.........oh ya,  Cant wait for Pearl Jam in 2021


       
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  • eboweddieeboweddie Posts: 1,021
    Today in Ireland the cases jumped to 174. A massive jump. It was single figures a few weeks ago.  Covid was gone from the community.  Its crept back in.

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  • JR86440JR86440 Posts: 750
    eboweddie said:
    Today in Ireland the cases jumped to 174. A massive jump. It was single figures a few weeks ago.  Covid was gone from the community.  Its crept back in.
    I’m afraid it’s never going away. Just like the flu doesn’t go away..
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,950
    jimjam1982 said:
    Fauci hasn't been right about 1 thing since March so take it with a grain of salt. He is big pharma incarnate. 
    Wrong
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    edited August 2020
    JR86440 said:
    eboweddie said:
    Today in Ireland the cases jumped to 174. A massive jump. It was single figures a few weeks ago.  Covid was gone from the community.  Its crept back in.
    I’m afraid it’s never going away. Just like the flu doesn’t go away..
    Exactly and official statistics says that the seasonal flu is more deadly and with a 99.97% survival rate and that's if you're one of the rare unlucky ones to actually get it I think I'll take my chances lol :lol:
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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,059
    i_lov_it said:
    JR86440 said:
    eboweddie said:
    Today in Ireland the cases jumped to 174. A massive jump. It was single figures a few weeks ago.  Covid was gone from the community.  Its crept back in.
    I’m afraid it’s never going away. Just like the flu doesn’t go away..
    Exactly and official statistics says that the seasonal flu is more deadly and with a 99.97% survival rate and that's if you're one of the rare unlucky ones to actually get it I think I'll take my chances lol :lol:

    But also, most people have been smart. They've been social distancing, wearing masks, avoiding unnecessary trips/vacations, etc.

    The science says that when people congregate in large groups without wearing masks, the numbers spike. But then again, science seems to be difficult for approximately half the country.
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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    edited August 2020
    Lost In Ohio said:
    i_lov_it said:
    JR86440 said:
    eboweddie said:
    Today in Ireland the cases jumped to 174. A massive jump. It was single figures a few weeks ago.  Covid was gone from the community.  Its crept back in.
    I’m afraid it’s never going away. Just like the flu doesn’t go away..
    Exactly and official statistics says that the seasonal flu is more deadly and with a 99.97% survival rate and that's if you're one of the rare unlucky ones to actually get it I think I'll take my chances lol :lol:

    But also, most people have been smart. They've been social distancing, wearing masks, avoiding unnecessary trips/vacations, etc.

    The science says that when people congregate in large groups without wearing masks, the numbers spike. But then again, science seems to be difficult for approximately half the country
    lol
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Damn some people are fools.
    No shit.  As evidenced over and over and....
  • Red MosqitoRed Mosqito Posts: 1,239
    Merkin Baller said:
    If you think people are bitching now, just wait until Europe gets a tour and the states don’t because the US has handled this pandemic like a 3rd world country. 
    Actually, we've handled it WORSE than a third world country. 
  • matt84matt84 Posts: 784
    I think Europe will see Pearl Jam next year. Like someone else said - life can’t stop forever. Obviously it’s not guaranteed, but I think the tour will happen.

    Unfortunately I don’t see any gigs happening in the States in 2021.
  • BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,426
    2021 feels very optimistic. I liked the witty comment above that science seems difficult for many to comprehend. I'd add history to that notion too. Pandemics don't stop in 6 months to a year. 
    I think people should be able to request a refund whenever they want, and expect that money within 2 weeks. 
    As someone else mentioned earlier, I've also thought about not attending sporting events and concerts again. If not attending means I reduce the health risks to my family and senior-aged members of our immediate and extended family it's an easy decision.
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