Pearl Jam 2020 postponed posters

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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    His previous posters were not received well ...
    I'd say Moline was received quite well 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,434

    pjl44 said:
    Artists should be charging more for these. You look at the market and $65-75 is a steal. You can bitch about flippers all you want, but the reality is that selling at those retail prices creates a huge opportunity.

    Agreed, a $30 m/u for an AP is nothing.
     


    Does the band have input on their pricing? Are they nervous about alienating customers? Do we overstate the actual number of prints that sell at dramatically elevated mark-ups? If those were priced at $150 would they hang around? So many questions. 
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    pjl44 said:
    bbiggs said:
    Ahhh,...poster drops followed up by posts complaining about missing out...almost makes me feel like we're back to normal life again.  ;)
    Don't forget all the 10C art critics. If anyone needs a taste of normalcy, this is the place to be.
    Haha.  Yep.  Only thing missing is griping about ticket lotteries.  This was the dose of normalcy I needed today.  I'll check back at 12:01 CST for some more...

  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    RS65573 said:
    I think its not cool to not wait AT LEAST til you have the damn thing from the artist, who is also struggling and the one who appreciates that loss.
    pjl44 said:
    Artists should be charging more for these. You look at the market and $65-75 is a steal. You can bitch about flippers all you want, but the reality is that selling at those retail prices creates a huge opportunity.
    Exactly right, the artists should make the prices high enough to deter flipping. I don't believe the band puts a ceiling on what they can charge. 
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    SHZA said:
    RS65573 said:
    I think its not cool to not wait AT LEAST til you have the damn thing from the artist, who is also struggling and the one who appreciates that loss.
    pjl44 said:
    Artists should be charging more for these. You look at the market and $65-75 is a steal. You can bitch about flippers all you want, but the reality is that selling at those retail prices creates a huge opportunity.
    Exactly right, the artists should make the prices high enough to deter flipping. I don't believe the band puts a ceiling on what they can charge. 
    There's a premium for PJ posters.  If they marked up pricing on PJ and none of the other bands they do posters for then all the PJ fans would be bitching.  Lose lose situation for them.

  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,103
    Any idea on the price for Baltimore A/P?
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,434
    bbiggs said:
    pjl44 said:
    bbiggs said:
    Ahhh,...poster drops followed up by posts complaining about missing out...almost makes me feel like we're back to normal life again.  ;)
    Don't forget all the 10C art critics. If anyone needs a taste of normalcy, this is the place to be.
    Haha.  Yep.  Only thing missing is griping about ticket lotteries.  This was the dose of normalcy I needed today.  I'll check back at 12:01 CST for some more...

    Ten Clubber walks into a Monet exhibit: "GARBAGE GARBAGE ALL TRASH. THESE PAINTINGS SUCK."
  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    Less than 5 min a flipper has STL on ebay. sickening 
    In this case, honestly, what's the big deal?

    I'm sure someone will buy it because it's limited edition and Pearl Jam.  I get it, but why is it a big deal in 2020?

    The concert didn't happen.  No one was there and didn't get a poster.  Tenclub should have plenty to go around, for people who did not even attend.

    If some "fan" with too much money and too little common sense wants to pay a ridiculous price on ebay for "art", the artist got paid during the pandemic already.  

    It may be a lame business practice, but it's not like the guy is hoarding water.  I don't usually defend flipping, but the concerts didn't happen.  Some people are waiting in food lines and getting evicted, others can buy prints at a premium on ebay.

    Your definition of "sickening" and mine differ I guess.  I don't believe in taking advantage of people and am not some "hey, it's america, capitalism" person.  I just think there are bigger issues these days, even though we are on a PJ forum talking about prints.

    For the record, I have MSG tickets, liked the poster, didn't try, and am pretty freaking good at drops and can maybe PB for someone later if they need help.
    Good take until the part about little common sense and ridiculous prices. 
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,466
    edited August 2020
    I hate the argument that they should raise the AP prices much more. It’s a balance. You are just feeding the rich collectors at a certain point and not giving the little guy a shot to get one at an affordable cost
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,434
    bbiggs said:
    SHZA said:
    RS65573 said:
    I think its not cool to not wait AT LEAST til you have the damn thing from the artist, who is also struggling and the one who appreciates that loss.
    pjl44 said:
    Artists should be charging more for these. You look at the market and $65-75 is a steal. You can bitch about flippers all you want, but the reality is that selling at those retail prices creates a huge opportunity.
    Exactly right, the artists should make the prices high enough to deter flipping. I don't believe the band puts a ceiling on what they can charge. 
    There's a premium for PJ posters.  If they marked up pricing on PJ and none of the other bands they do posters for then all the PJ fans would be bitching.  Lose lose situation for them.

    Eh...history tells us people will bitch no matter what. Whether or not they sell would be my only concern. These are premium items.
  • jdasilvafjdasilvaf Posts: 190
    I hate the argument that they should raise the AP prices much more. It’s a balance. You are just feeding the rich collectors at a certain point and not giving the little guy a shot to get one at an affordable cost
    I don't know, do rich art collectors bother with rock posters? I consider them art but to the serious collector's they're not really fine art worth putting in their portfolio. I'd say the market for rockabilia is mostly dominated by mouthbreathing boomers who show up at record conventions and want $1000 for a Jennifer Lopez cardboard cut out. I've seen this happen.

  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,434
    I hate the argument that they should raise the AP prices much more. It’s a balance. You are just feeding the rich collectors at a certain point and not giving the little guy a shot to get one at an affordable cost
    SEs are for the little guy. That's what I buy.
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,466
    jdasilvaf said:
    I hate the argument that they should raise the AP prices much more. It’s a balance. You are just feeding the rich collectors at a certain point and not giving the little guy a shot to get one at an affordable cost
    I don't know, do rich art collectors bother with rock posters? I consider them art but to the serious collector's they're not really fine art worth putting in their portfolio. I'd say the market for rockabilia is mostly dominated by mouthbreathing boomers who show up at record conventions and want $1000 for a Jennifer Lopez cardboard cut out. I've seen this happen.

    Maybe not the millionaires going to gallery auctions lol
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  • jdasilvafjdasilvaf Posts: 190
    jdasilvaf said:
    I hate the argument that they should raise the AP prices much more. It’s a balance. You are just feeding the rich collectors at a certain point and not giving the little guy a shot to get one at an affordable cost
    I don't know, do rich art collectors bother with rock posters? I consider them art but to the serious collector's they're not really fine art worth putting in their portfolio. I'd say the market for rockabilia is mostly dominated by mouthbreathing boomers who show up at record conventions and want $1000 for a Jennifer Lopez cardboard cut out. I've seen this happen.

    Maybe not the millionaires going to gallery auctions lol
    And yes, I was into that JLO cutout. I was single at the time.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,430
    pjl44 said:
    I hate the argument that they should raise the AP prices much more. It’s a balance. You are just feeding the rich collectors at a certain point and not giving the little guy a shot to get one at an affordable cost
    SEs are for the little guy. That's what I buy.


    Agreed, if you want a poster signed by the artist, be prepared to pay for it.

    Did anyone see how Tool's poster artists handled the poster AP sales in the last year? They were printed in super limited runs, and the artists let ebay set the market for their APs. Who can blame them?

    Alex Gray was getting $300+ for his APs and they still sold out in a heartbeat.

    Prints signed by the band were reselling for upwards of $1K so artists added remarques to posters and sold them for $500 - $750 and the demand was still through the roof.

     

    I applaud the artists getting all they can; I would rather see them get the money then some scrub doing nothing but cruising the internet.

  • My guess is $85 for Ames AP.  Who takes the under /over?
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,434
    pjl44 said:
    I hate the argument that they should raise the AP prices much more. It’s a balance. You are just feeding the rich collectors at a certain point and not giving the little guy a shot to get one at an affordable cost
    SEs are for the little guy. That's what I buy.


    Agreed, if you want a poster signed by the artist, be prepared to pay for it.

    Did anyone see how Tool's poster artists handled the poster AP sales in the last year? They were printed in super limited runs, and the artists let ebay set the market for their APs. Who can blame them?

    Alex Gray was getting $300+ for his APs and they still sold out in a heartbeat.

    Prints signed by the band were reselling for upwards of $1K so artists added remarques to posters and sold them for $500 - $750 and the demand was still through the roof.

     

    I applaud the artists getting all they can; I would rather see them get the money then some scrub doing nothing but cruising the internet.

    Agree 100%. Especially in this economy I want to see every dollar possible going to the artists.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,923
    Artists don't get paid for the SE I believe.  I think they get paid from sales of the AP.  Might as well sell for market then.
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,102
    Got a Baltimore AP, original. Variants were cool but too steep. 
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,103
    Ames up
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  • pjpitt89pjpitt89 Posts: 1,847
    edited August 2020
    ames gone before 1pm
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  • 405OK405OK Posts: 100
    11:59 CST and Baltimore is ALREADY sold out.. 
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  • 405OK405OK Posts: 100
    So much for going on sale at noon
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  • MickeyMouseMickeyMouse Posts: 1,055
    As a lifelong Orioles fan that variant was too sweet to pass up
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  • pbultimatepbultimate Posts: 612
    Christ. $100 and $200 gone before the listed on sale time. Cool. 


  • TravelarTravelar Posts: 3,399
    Had Baltimore in my cart... alas, it wasn't meant to be.
  • I didn't even see the SE.  Only $200 for variant.  How much was SE for Baltimore?
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  • BeenerBeener Posts: 22
    Baltimore sold out before 10am pacific. Was sold out at 9:59
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,968
    It wasn't even 1pm before the Ames sold out
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  • Carted one but I guess I was too slow to check out. FFS
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