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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
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    She's working towards that coveted w.h. position 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    CM189191 said:
    Canadians rioted and burned shit when the avalanche won the cup. 



    ...??? 

    Refresh my memory here. I know folks in Vancouver rioted when Boston won the Cup, but did we riot when Colorado won as well? 
    Yes!  When the Avalanche won Quebec went buck wild.  I think it was only a year after they left?
    Neat!  But I mean.. that's Quebec.  Not entirely Canadian.

    (Disclaimer: the previous comment was made in jest. The writer is aware that Quebec is an integral part of Canada and is himself spawned from that of Quebec natives, most of whom he likes.)  
    lol!!!
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    edited May 2020
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,589
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    theres a distinction with kent state being national guardsman that fired.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    theres a distinction with kent state being national guardsman that fired.
    True but I think they basically become deputized as law enforcement officers through the avenue of being called into service. But okay, strike it from my reference.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025


    tempo_n_groove said: Halifax2TheMax said: tempo_n_groove said: Halifax2TheMax said: tempo_n_groove said: Halifax2TheMax said: tempo_n_groove said: CM189191 said: What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree. Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968? So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me? Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh? Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing.  There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
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    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
    Got it.  It's amazing though that you pulled instances from 50 years ago to prove a point when we are discussing an article that was talking about the last few years.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025


    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
    Got it.  It's amazing though that you pulled instances from 50 years ago to prove a point when we are discussing an article that was talking about the last few years.
    I guess the young Red Sox fan wasn't recent enough for you. Got it.

    Rodney King's beating was 29 years ago. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143


    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
    Got it.  It's amazing though that you pulled instances from 50 years ago to prove a point when we are discussing an article that was talking about the last few years.
    I guess the young Red Sox fan wasn't recent enough for you. Got it.

    Rodney King's beating was 29 years ago. Nothing has changed. Nothing.

    The Rodney King beating was sort of a preview to the smartphone era. Viewed by the world...and nothing came of it.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355


    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
    Got it.  It's amazing though that you pulled instances from 50 years ago to prove a point when we are discussing an article that was talking about the last few years.
    I guess the young Red Sox fan wasn't recent enough for you. Got it.

    Rodney King's beating was 29 years ago. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
    OMG OMG again with events that have ZERO to do with what was said about fires being started from cops shooting their guns.

    Red sox bean bag. No fires started from cops shooting beanbag.

    Rodney King beating.  No shots fired.  No fires started from cops shooting because no cop shot anything during the incident.

    Just stop it, please.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025


    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
    Got it.  It's amazing though that you pulled instances from 50 years ago to prove a point when we are discussing an article that was talking about the last few years.
    I guess the young Red Sox fan wasn't recent enough for you. Got it.

    Rodney King's beating was 29 years ago. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
    OMG OMG again with events that have ZERO to do with what was said about fires being started from cops shooting their guns.

    Red sox bean bag. No fires started from cops shooting beanbag.

    Rodney King beating.  No shots fired.  No fires started from cops shooting because no cop shot anything during the incident.

    Just stop it, please.
    Get woke, please?

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355


    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
    Got it.  It's amazing though that you pulled instances from 50 years ago to prove a point when we are discussing an article that was talking about the last few years.
    I guess the young Red Sox fan wasn't recent enough for you. Got it.

    Rodney King's beating was 29 years ago. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
    OMG OMG again with events that have ZERO to do with what was said about fires being started from cops shooting their guns.

    Red sox bean bag. No fires started from cops shooting beanbag.

    Rodney King beating.  No shots fired.  No fires started from cops shooting because no cop shot anything during the incident.

    Just stop it, please.
    Get woke, please?

    I would ask if you're even awake let alone woke...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025


    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
    Got it.  It's amazing though that you pulled instances from 50 years ago to prove a point when we are discussing an article that was talking about the last few years.
    I guess the young Red Sox fan wasn't recent enough for you. Got it.

    Rodney King's beating was 29 years ago. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
    OMG OMG again with events that have ZERO to do with what was said about fires being started from cops shooting their guns.

    Red sox bean bag. No fires started from cops shooting beanbag.

    Rodney King beating.  No shots fired.  No fires started from cops shooting because no cop shot anything during the incident.

    Just stop it, please.
    Get woke, please?

    I would ask if you're even awake let alone woke...
    Again, in my sleepy, unwoke state, I refer you back to your bolded statement. Get off the decaf.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.

    careless cops are what started this whole mess
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    ..
    Again, in my sleepy, unwoke state, I refer you back to your bolded statement. Get off the decaf.
    My bolded part was referencing the article in which he mentions a cops bullet fired recklessly starts a fire during RECENT events.

    He says "recklessly shooting off live ammunition".  If they were pointed at demonstrators there would be dead people everywhere.  This is all moot anyways because I have, again, never heard of cops' bullets starting fires.  That is what I am getting at.


  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.

    careless cops are what started this whole mess
    A reason for the police being called is what started it, the end result was due to terrible practice by the cops that responded. I refuse to watch the video because to me it is pretty disturbing to voluntarily witness someones life being taken, but I can read and have seen screen shots of what there is no denying as being unwarranted force. I remember seeing you post that this occurred close to home for you. Did you use this opportunity to go out and let your voice be heard, or was it a situation that felt too unsafe?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    Not sure where this originated but here it is.....

    I have privilege as a white person because I can do all of these things without thinking twice:
    I can go birding (#ChristianCooper)
    I can go jogging (#AmaudArbery)
    I can relax in the comfort of my own home (#BothemSean and #AtatianaJefferson)
    I can ask for help after being in a car crash (#JonathanFerrell and #RenishaMcBride)
    I can have a cellphone (#StephonClark)
    I can leave a party to get to safety (#JordanEdwards)
    I can play loud music (#JordanDavis)
    I can sell CDs (#AltonSterling)
    I can sleep (#AiyanaJones and #breonataylor)
    I can walk from the corner store (#MikeBrown)
    I can play cops and robbers (#TamirRice)
    I can go to church (#Charleston9)
    I can walk home with Skittles (#TrayvonMartin)
    I can hold a hair brush while leaving my own bachelor party (#SeanBell)
    I can party on New Years (#OscarGrant)
    I can get a normal traffic ticket (#SandraBland)
    I can lawfully carry a weapon (#PhilandoCastile)
    I can break down on a public road with car problems (#CoreyJones)
    I can shop at Walmart (#JohnCrawford)
    I can have a disabled vehicle (#TerrenceCrutcher)
    I can read a book in my own car (#KeithScott)
    I can be a 10yr old walking with my grandfather (#CliffordGlover)
    I can decorate for a party (#ClaudeReese)
    I can ask a cop a question (#RandyEvans)
    I can cash a check in peace (#YvonneSmallwood)
    I can take out my wallet (#AmadouDiallo)
    I can run (#WalterScott)
    I can breathe (#EricGarner)
    I can live (#FreddieGrey)
    I CAN BE ARRESTED WITHOUT THE FEAR OF BEING MURDERED (#GeorgeFloyd)
    White privilege is real.
    Take a minute to consider a black person’s experience today.
    #BlackLivesMatter
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    Not sure where this originated but here it is.....

    I have privilege as a white person because I can do all of these things without thinking twice:
    I can go birding (#ChristianCooper)
    I can go jogging (#AmaudArbery)
    I can relax in the comfort of my own home (#BothemSean and #AtatianaJefferson)
    I can ask for help after being in a car crash (#JonathanFerrell and #RenishaMcBride)
    I can have a cellphone (#StephonClark)
    I can leave a party to get to safety (#JordanEdwards)
    I can play loud music (#JordanDavis)
    I can sell CDs (#AltonSterling)
    I can sleep (#AiyanaJones and #breonataylor)
    I can walk from the corner store (#MikeBrown)
    I can play cops and robbers (#TamirRice)
    I can go to church (#Charleston9)
    I can walk home with Skittles (#TrayvonMartin)
    I can hold a hair brush while leaving my own bachelor party (#SeanBell)
    I can party on New Years (#OscarGrant)
    I can get a normal traffic ticket (#SandraBland)
    I can lawfully carry a weapon (#PhilandoCastile)
    I can break down on a public road with car problems (#CoreyJones)
    I can shop at Walmart (#JohnCrawford)
    I can have a disabled vehicle (#TerrenceCrutcher)
    I can read a book in my own car (#KeithScott)
    I can be a 10yr old walking with my grandfather (#CliffordGlover)
    I can decorate for a party (#ClaudeReese)
    I can ask a cop a question (#RandyEvans)
    I can cash a check in peace (#YvonneSmallwood)
    I can take out my wallet (#AmadouDiallo)
    I can run (#WalterScott)
    I can breathe (#EricGarner)
    I can live (#FreddieGrey)
    I CAN BE ARRESTED WITHOUT THE FEAR OF BEING MURDERED (#GeorgeFloyd)
    White privilege is real.
    Take a minute to consider a black person’s experience today.
    #BlackLivesMatter

    That's it, all right there.  Devastating.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    brianlux said:
    Not sure where this originated but here it is.....

    I have privilege as a white person because I can do all of these things without thinking twice:
    I can go birding (#ChristianCooper)
    I can go jogging (#AmaudArbery)
    I can relax in the comfort of my own home (#BothemSean and #AtatianaJefferson)
    I can ask for help after being in a car crash (#JonathanFerrell and #RenishaMcBride)
    I can have a cellphone (#StephonClark)
    I can leave a party to get to safety (#JordanEdwards)
    I can play loud music (#JordanDavis)
    I can sell CDs (#AltonSterling)
    I can sleep (#AiyanaJones and #breonataylor)
    I can walk from the corner store (#MikeBrown)
    I can play cops and robbers (#TamirRice)
    I can go to church (#Charleston9)
    I can walk home with Skittles (#TrayvonMartin)
    I can hold a hair brush while leaving my own bachelor party (#SeanBell)
    I can party on New Years (#OscarGrant)
    I can get a normal traffic ticket (#SandraBland)
    I can lawfully carry a weapon (#PhilandoCastile)
    I can break down on a public road with car problems (#CoreyJones)
    I can shop at Walmart (#JohnCrawford)
    I can have a disabled vehicle (#TerrenceCrutcher)
    I can read a book in my own car (#KeithScott)
    I can be a 10yr old walking with my grandfather (#CliffordGlover)
    I can decorate for a party (#ClaudeReese)
    I can ask a cop a question (#RandyEvans)
    I can cash a check in peace (#YvonneSmallwood)
    I can take out my wallet (#AmadouDiallo)
    I can run (#WalterScott)
    I can breathe (#EricGarner)
    I can live (#FreddieGrey)
    I CAN BE ARRESTED WITHOUT THE FEAR OF BEING MURDERED (#GeorgeFloyd)
    White privilege is real.
    Take a minute to consider a black person’s experience today.
    #BlackLivesMatter

    That's it, all right there.  Devastating.
    Also add being a CNN reporter doing his job on live tv and get arrested even showing his press credentials. While around the corner the next block reporter Josh Campbell of CNN shows his credentials and nothing happens to him and his news crew. He happens to white and so it goes in America.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,441
    Kill the white folk!
    kill the white folk!
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    edited May 2020
    nicknyr15 said:
    Kill the white folk!
    kill the white folk!
    I’m a white guy in St. Paul and can walk to a boarded up building in three minutes.  I’m not even a little scared for my life.
    1995 Milwaukee     1998 Alpine, Alpine     2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston     2004 Boston, Boston     2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty)     2011 Alpine, Alpine     
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672


    CM189191 said:
    What’s the difference between Black protests and Black riots?

    https://thegrio.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-minneapolis-riots/

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    Interesting take and view but hard to swallow all of it and his last statement paints you in a corner if you disagree.
    Never heard of Kent State or Jackson State, I guess? Chicago 1968?
    So it hasn't happened in 50 years is what you are telling me?
    Different than it’s never happened because you hadn’t heard of it, eh?
    Completely different here of course.  The author is talking about the recent riots/protests and you bring up something that happened 50 years ago where the cops actually drew down and shot people.  He is describing police officers shooting at nothing.

    Completely different.

    Thanks
    That “nothing” you refer to were empty streets? “Nothing.” I’m not sure that streets filled with protesters should be considered “nothing.” And isn’t one of the cardinal rules of “responsible” gun handling is to know what is downrange from where you’re shooting and the potential consequences? Maybe you remember the young, female Red Sox fan shot in the face with a bean bag? Recent enough for you?

    Yea, nothing. 
    There you go again adding things that have NOTHING to do with the article.  Do you even read any of this or you fire right from the hip?

    To bring you up to speed again the article claimed that "Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability."

    This is something I never heard or read about before and what the crux of my argument is.  I have no idea where your tangents are coming from or have to do with my initial thoughts? So please fell free to comment with something relevant to my comment.

    Anyone else having a hard time like he is with what I said?

    From the article, as you pointed out:

    Many of the fires and broken windows attributed to rioters are actually the result of police recklessly shooting off live ammunition with no accountability.

    From your post:

    I have never heard of cops firing their weapons carelessly in situations of protest.  That would be news to me and if true those officers that shoot blindly would/should be held accountable but I don't think it can really be proven.

    The bolded part is what I was responding to originally. I gave you past examples. You then reference "shooting at nothing," while the author of the article is claiming that the "nothing" is actually protesters and places of businesses.

    Relevent enough for you?
    Got it.  It's amazing though that you pulled instances from 50 years ago to prove a point when we are discussing an article that was talking about the last few years.
    I guess the young Red Sox fan wasn't recent enough for you. Got it.

    Rodney King's beating was 29 years ago. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
    ^ This, my thoughts exactly
    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
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